southern and middle england

[micky1up]

showing there colours during this flood and water shortage stealing and selling on water for profit and taking more than their fair share of the water given out these are the people that sneer at the north west and east but at least we up here are decent people that dont stab each other in the back in a time of crisis shame shame shame

[geetrue]

Must be a human personality trait ... because they do it over here too before, during and after hurricanes.

Some people just sit around all day figuring out how to be greedy.

[hoagiedriver]

I know! When I was in Southern and Middle England, I was like "OMG! These guys are disgusting!" Then I went to Northern England and everyone was nice and stuff.












Just kidding, they're all the same..

[mbthegreat]

happens anywhere you go I'm afraid, some people are always lookin out to make a quick buck.

This is the enduring image from New Orleans after hurricane Katrina.

[Konovalov]

Don't want to spoil your party Micky1up but I just don't get this stupid North and South divide thing over here in the UK which is exhibited so strongly by you in this thread.

Weeks back when it was the north that was flooded so badly I read stories of how skip bin companies started charging extortionate rates for the hire of skip bins to remove the masses of rubbish, written of furniture and belongings of the the victims of the floods. These skip bin companies were local businesses owned by northerners and not by some posh Buckingmashire businessman.

The fact is that it is just human nature. The majority of those people affected by firstly the floods in the North/Midlands and currently the floods in the South, work together to help each other out. Of course there is a very small minority of people who commit acts of looting, theft, or just try to cash in on the suffering of the victims through greed.

The bottom line is this. Neither the North nor the South of this country have the moral highground, no pun intended.

[tycho102]

It's a right pisser going on in Britain. I'm not going to joke about it.

The only thing they can do is evacuate the areas, and it would be an absolute cluster-f if anyone tried to help them do it. First responders have to be natives.

So, the only question is cleanup. Cash money is always nice to have -- there'll be several billion in donations. I figure the total damage is $20 billion or more because of the population density and infrastructure.

We've got a load of FEMA trailers, but a bunch of them don't have air-conditioners, and I honestly don't think the Brits would care to have them. It'd be nice if someone could get some use out of them, but maybe we'll find a use for them after our own tornado and hurricane season.

Concrete. Wood. Steel for commerical buildings. Pipes for water and sewage. The water treatment plants just need the water level to subside and electrical power restored.

Not to be an ass here, but at some point people will be wanting tea. I don't pretend to understand it, but it goes security, water, tea, food -- I think it's about the same for the Chinese. Lump that in with food requirements, and you'll need road repair for the trucks to carry all the consumables. I don't know anything about road construction in Britain because the wet weather is going to preclude asphault. I've no idea if they're just running on straight concrete or reinforced or what. We use prefabs for most of our outlying roads (Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska, Montana, etc.) and maybe those can get cut to fit.


At some point in all this, it's got to stop raining.

[mbthegreat]

air-conditioning isn't really an issue in the UK, the vast majority of homes are not are conditioned...

[micky1up]

Originally Posted by waste gate

This is the enduring image from New Orleans after hurricane Katrina.

yeah but be realistic thats beer who wouldnt

[micky1up]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Don't want to spoil your party Micky1up but I just don't get this stupid North and South divide thing over here in the UK which is exhibited so strongly by you in this thread.

Weeks back when it was the north that was flooded so badly I read stories of how skip bin companies started charging extortionate rates for the hire of skip bins to remove the masses of rubbish, written of furniture and belongings of the the victims of the floods. These skip bin companies were local businesses owned by northerners and not by some posh Buckingmashire businessman.

The fact is that it is just human nature. The majority of those people affected by firstly the floods in the North/Midlands and currently the floods in the South, work together to help each other out. Of course there is a very small minority of people who commit acts of looting, theft, or just try to cash in on the suffering of the victims through greed.

The bottom line is this. Neither the North nor the South of this country have the moral highground, no pun intended.

i agree but we in the north dont sit in our overpriced 50 year mortgaged homes and slag off other regions because of the accent or weather (irony) and its quite amazing how much more is being done because the home countys have been hit virtually nothing was done for hull !

[Chock]

Having a job which takes me both 'up North' and 'down South' in the UK quite a bit, I have to say that people do seem to me more friendly the further North you go in both England and Scotland, and I have also noticed that in and around the Capital, people are generally much ruder than they are elsewhere in the country.

Just last week I was on Reading railway station, having come from Guildford on my way home to Stockport just a bit south of Manchester. Being not hugely familiar with Reading station, I asked several people who worked there if they could point out which platforms trains to Manchester and the North would generally go from, and they could not have been more unhelpful if they had tried. Behaviour such as that at locations much further North in the UK would be regarded as completely unacceptable. They may, of course, have been exceptions to the rule, but nevertheless, that was my experience.

Oddly enough though, the friendliest people I've come across in the UK, were in South Wales, which often gets saddled with the reputation of people being unfriendly to those from England. Nothing could have been further from the truth from what I've experienced there numerous times. And in fact, I have been to some towns in South Wales which have been devastated by pit closures and rendundancies, where many of the populace have 'barely got a pot to piss in', yet, they were amongst the most friendly and helpful people I've ever met. If anyone had a reason to hate people from England, it was them, but they were without exception most welcoming and warm towards me.

The same is also true of Ireland, where the people are always very helpful. So in the British Isles, I would say that it's mostly Wales and Ireland where the friendliest people are, and then on the main island, it would be friendlier as you go North. Bizarre, but in my experience true.

On the subject of making money when things are in demand, that's generally the case anywhere you go I think, as evidenced by my trip to Guildford last week. Being made at short notice, I had to book an hotel at the last minute, and it was while the Guilfest rock music festival was taking place in that town, so it was a bit like trying to find a stable to stay in at Bethlehem. Those hotels which did have vacancies were charging vastly inflated prices over what they normally do when I stay there (which is quite often). Didn't really surprise me I have to say.

You might say that it is just business, but it seems to me to be not the way to endear oneself to one's customers, and if I was in a flood-affected area and saw a shop doing that kind of crap, I'd make a note never to shop there again, and see how they liked what that did to their profits.

Chock

[The Munster]

Originally Posted by micky1up

showing there colours during this flood and water shortage stealing and selling on water for profit and taking more than their fair share of the water given out these are the people that sneer at the north west and east but at least we up here are decent people that dont stab each other in the back in a time of crisis shame shame shame

Only Fools and Horses, the waterlogged version.
What get's me is when I lived in your neck of the woods and there was a storm/gale force wind/power cuts .. hardly a murmur on the National news, that happens in London and we're eating it !
In reference to Hull .. people [all over Britain] complained that the BBC showed more coverage of Wimbledon than the floods.
PS .. 50 year Mortgage thing ? Up to me leaving, Helensburgh came 2nd highest house prices in Scotland [second to Edinburgh]. More like 100 years.

[The Munster]

Originally Posted by Chock

Having a job which takes me both 'up North' and 'down South' in the UK quite a bit, I have to say that people do seem to me more friendly the further North you go in both England and Scotland, and I have also noticed that in and around the Capital, people are generally much ruder than they are elsewhere in the country.

Just last week I was on Reading railway station, having come from Guildford on my way home to Stockport just a bit south of Manchester. Being not hugely familiar with Reading station, I asked several people who worked there if they could point out which platforms trains to Manchester and the North would generally go from, and they could not have been more unhelpful if they had tried. Behaviour such as that at locations much further North in the UK would be regarded as completely unacceptable. They may, of course, have been exceptions to the rule, but nevertheless, that was my experience.

Oddly enough though, the friendliest people I've come across in the UK, were in South Wales, which often gets saddled with the reputation of people being unfriendly to those from England. Nothing could have been further from the truth from what I've experienced there numerous times. And in fact, I have been to some towns in South Wales which have been devastated by pit closures and rendundancies, where many of the populace have 'barely got a pot to piss in', yet, they were amongst the most friendly and helpful people I've ever met. If anyone had a reason to hate people from England, it was them, but they were without exception most welcoming and warm towards me.

The same is also true of Ireland, where the people are always very helpful. So in the British Isles, I would say that it's mostly Wales and Ireland where the friendliest people are, and then on the main island, it would be friendlier as you go North. Bizarre, but in my experience true.

On the subject of making money when things are in demand, that's generally the case anywhere you go I think, as evidenced by my trip to Guildford last week. Being made at short notice, I had to book an hotel at the last minute, and it was while the Guilfest rock music festival was taking place in that town, so it was a bit like trying to find a stable to stay in at Bethlehem. Those hotels which did have vacancies were charging vastly inflated prices over what they normally do when I stay there (which is quite often). Didn't really surprise me I have to say.

Chock

I've had a dose of this. Shortly after moving up to Scotland, I went to Glasgow and asked for directions, the Glaswegians bent over backwards to help me ! Go back 25 years, yes .. 25 years and I'm in London asking where the Royal Albert Hall is and people are backing away from me or just walking past. Welcome to London, not !
BTW, to balance it up a bit, in reference to your vacancy/inflated prices issue; next time the golf is on in Loch Lomond, phone up a Hotel/B&B/Guest House in Luss and check out their over inflated prices.

[micky1up]

[quote=Kpt. Munson]

Originally Posted by micky1up

showing there colours during this flood and water shortage stealing and selling on water for profit and taking more than their fair share of the water given out these are the people that sneer at the north west and east but at least we up here are decent people that dont stab each other in the back in a time of crisis shame shame shame

Only Fools and Horses, the waterlogged version.
What get's me is when I lived in your neck of the woods and there was a storm/gale force wind/power cuts .. hardly a murmur on the National news, that happens in London and we're eating it !
In reference to Hull .. people [all over Britain] complained that the BBC showed more coverage of Wimbledon than the floods.
PS .. 50 year Mortgage thing ? Up to me leaving, Helensburgh came 2nd highest house prices in Scotland [second to Edinburgh]. More like 100 years.[/quote


and with reguards to oppertunism yes buisnesses do take the piss some times but screwing your fellow man in a crisis is not the same thing


you should have bought and sold at the right time like i did (in helensburgh)i bought a 3 bedroom upper convesrsion for 82k and 3 years later sold it for 165k im happy with my new home with next to no mortgage

[mbthegreat]

bear in mind that London has a gazillion more tourists than anywhere else in the country, and that people will get asked questions over and over again.

What's most annoying tohugh is that the touroids seems to think that the speed to walk at is .25 mph.