Type VIIC/42

[Werewolf]

I have seen the beautiful VIIC/41 mod and was wondering if it would be possible to mod the VIIC/42 as well

[Alex]

Cobalt is among us, no problem :p

:rotfl:

[Werewolf]

:hmm: yeah actually he was the one I was thinking of hehe......I have read a bit about the VIIC/42, it had 2 scopes in the con. tower like the type IX and an integrated snorchel....not sure if integrated means a telescope mast like the XXI, the external appearence should be app. the same though as the other types of the VII class only a bit longer.......and what test depth!

[Alex]

For sure, it would be nice to have this model as well.

[cobalt]

I've never even seen one ;o

[Hitman]

IIRC that sub never became operational, as the only ones laid down were not finished in favour of the XXI and XXIII series. (Someone correct me if wrong ). Anyway of course if the model becomes available for SH3, the better then

[Alex]

the reason why no one among us have ever seen this model :

Contracts were signed for 164 boats and a few boats were laid down, but all were cancelled on September 30, 1943 in favor of the new Type XXI, and none were advanced enough in construction to be launched.

@ Hitman : .

[Werewolf]

Well if any of you are still there then I am able to tell that I have dug very deep to find information about the VIIC/42 and this is what I've come up with:

It was made to increase the range, crush depth and the offensive power of the VIIC

It was made upon basis of the VIIC hull just like the VIIC/41

The range was extended by widening the saddle tanks with 35 cm, this allowed for an additional 70 tons of fuel which gave it an operational range of app. 12600 nm. The hull was not lengthened as far as I understand which explains why it kept the type designation VIIC, neither was the bow or anything changed from the VIIC/41.

It carried 2 extra torpedoes, total number of 16, how they managed to do this I cannot remember, it had something to do with the conning tower I think.

The extra diving depth was obtained by once again to thicken the hull plating.

It had a slightly higher surface speed 18.6 knots, obtained by an extra boost of the diesel engines. Electric motors the same and submerged topspeed too.

All in all it would have looked almost like a VIIC/41, since cobalt already has made an excellent model of this then a new model will not be necessary. Snorkel was of usual type, deck mounted. The ONLY concern as to modelling will then be the 2 scopes in the con. The rest will be tweaking with the performance files which is a 5 minute job using SH3 mini tweaker.

Are any of you still there and Hitman, would it be possible to clone the IX and VII cons? Not to mention the control room?

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Are any of you still there

Yes I am !

That's really good to know that we're probably going to have a new one as beautiful as the VIIC/41 !!
Anyway, congratulations, mate, for finding all these informations !

[Werewolf]

Ah Alex mon ami, good to see you are still hanging on haha now we only need hitman

[Ubåtskapten]

I've read somewhere (unfortunately I can't recall where) that they tried telescopic schnorkels on some of the conventional U-boats by removing one of the periscopes and installing it there. However I don't know if this was the case with the planned production version of the VIIC/42.:hmm:

Edit: Here they mention it in a few lines but not which boats that where rebuilt.
http://www.uboataces.com/snorkel.shtml

[Werewolf]

@Hitman

Yep, couldn't agree more hehe

:hmm: but where the heck is cobalt, think he's the man for this

[Alex]

I've searched for documents dealing with the type VIIC/42 that could help Cobalt building this beast, didn't find anything.

The Type VIIC/42 was designed in 1942 and 1943 to replace the aging Type VIIC. It would have had a much stronger pressure hull, with skin thickness up to 28 mm, and would have dived twice as deep as the previous VIICs. These boats would have been very similar in external appearance to the VIIC/41 but with two periscopes in the tower and would have carried two more torpedoes.

http://uboat.net/types/viic-42.htm

[Werewolf]

@Alex

Well, most of the changes are in specifcations only I think and this could easily be done with the mini tweaker, changes such as crush depth, speed, etc. Graphically, well, think cobalt's model of the viic/41 would do nicely actually, but the 2 periscopes in the con. tower, don't know about that, unfortunately I'm a complete idiot when it comes to making graphic haha. Then there's the integrated snorkel, did you notice that at uboat.net? It says it had an INTEGRATED snorkel, now, I don't know whether this means an actual teleschopic mast as on the XXI or just the usual one seen on the type VII and IX boats, I actually think it means a teleschopic one. I have searched all over for drawings and so on, but like you I have only found short descriptions at uboat.net, uboatwar.com etc etc. no details

[Hitman]

but the 2 periscopes in the con. tower, don't know about that

Could that be solved by giving that sub the interior 3D model of the Type IX conning tower? A matter of cloning the Type VIIC and VIIC/41 parts in all needed except the conning tower, using for that the IX one.