Sub construction mania....

What's up with the world? I see everyday more and more subs are ordered under construction..... Including Venezuela.... In less than 2 years, we will have so many subs operating worldwide that they will collide with each other and no one will know where to hide... This is getting me upset... Shouldn't be more better to cut the production in half and transfer the money where it is needed the most? Like medicine? Are we preparing for another world war? I think an arms race is going on....God help us....

[Morts]

Originally Posted by GakunGak

What's up with the world? I see everyday more and more subs are ordered under construction..... Including Venezuela.... In less than 2 years, we will have so many subs operating worldwide that they will collide with each other and no one will know where to hide... This is getting me upset... Shouldn't be more better to cut the production in half and transfer the money where it is needed the most? Like medicine? Are we preparing for another world war? I think an arms race is going on....God help us....

well if we're gonna have a new world war
let someone new start it
germany stop trying to conquer the world:rotfl: and let someone new start a world war:rotfl:
(joke post)

Originally Posted by Morts

well if we're gonna have a new world war
let someone new start it
germany stop trying to conquer the world:rotfl: and let someone new start a world war:rotfl:
(joke post)

Imagine a new "battle for the Atlantic" with brand new 212 A and russian Lada...Man, that would be good for "Das Boot 2".

[Morts]

Originally Posted by GakunGak

Imagine a new "battle for the Atlantic" with brand new 212 A and russian Lada...Man, that would be good for "Das Boot 2".

and with the new super tankers
"ship spotted"
"mmm that looks like a 250000 ton":rotfl:
"rocket...los!" (german/english mix..sounds kinda stupid):rotfl: :rotfl:

[DAB]

Originally Posted by GakunGak

What's up with the world? I see everyday more and more subs are ordered under construction..... Including Venezuela.... In less than 2 years, we will have so many subs operating worldwide that they will collide with each other and no one will know where to hide... This is getting me upset... Shouldn't be more better to cut the production in half and transfer the money where it is needed the most? Like medicine? Are we preparing for another world war? I think an arms race is going on....God help us....

I would imagine actually that there are far less submarines in the worlds oceans today then say.. 25 years ago.

Whats happening is that the Submarine is now suprisingly afordable, and avaliable on the open market. Given how flexable the platform is, its unique ability to level the playing field somewhat in naval warfare, and the emergence of multiplue regional conflicts... its not suprising that the number of countries owning one is on the increase.

[DAB]

From the UK Sunday Telegraph (April 1st 2007 (Ignore the significance of that date))

Showing the Submarine arms race developing in the Asia Pacific region

[Happy Times]

+ South Korea 9 and Russia 15

Originally Posted by Morts

and with the new super tankers
"ship spotted"
"mmm that looks like a 250000 ton":rotfl:
"rocket...los!" (german/english mix..sounds kinda stupid):rotfl: :rotfl:

This is gonna be good... :-)Jokes aside,Do we really have to have this ammount of subs operating?Anyhow, real US figure will be here:http://www.navsource.org/archives/subidx.htmWhile everyone has subs these days, only S&M have 4 busted diesels... Man, we should modernise a litle bit... :-(
Hey DAB, what is the speed of 125 knots IN YOUR PICTURE? :-0
EDIT: I just found out it was 12.5 KTS, not 125, sorry...
But, isn't that a litle slow for a KILO?
I wonder...

[AntEater]

Third world navies are no longer third world navies today.
A few years ago, much of the world's forces consisted of discarded US WW2 ships and subs.
Nowadays, even minor countries start buying AEGIS style surface vessels and modern submarines. Call it maritime globalization
Those asian nations have had enormous economic growth and in classic mahanistic theory they realized to maintain that ecomonic power, they have to have control of the sea lanes.
Until a few years ago, basically all submarine forces except for NATO and Warsaw pact were status symbols. I've heard a lot of horror stories from german submariners on how Indonesians or whoever handled (or better not handled) german build subs.
Nowadays, all those former 1-2 sub forces expand their fleets into a really capable threat, with the training and professionalism to go along with it.

[Linton]

Dab that is the most interesting thing that has appeared in the ST in over a year!

Apparently most nations believe that Silent hunter 4 is a rather bug-free game and think it'd be fun to have there own sub fleet so they can play the game "irl" :p

Originally Posted by Rilder

Apparently most nations believe that Silent hunter 4 is a rather bug-free game and think it'd be fun to have there own sub fleet so they can play the game "irl" :p

[geetrue]

It took two weeks to cross the Atlantic Ocean in a submarine back in 1968. Not only did we not hit anything we didn't even hear anything for the entire trip.

I was on my first FBM patrol on the USS Ethan Allen SSBN 608 (Blue), believe me it is one big ocean.

Generate an AI of how many submarines are now in comission, insert them in a world class map, like SH4, and see if they run into each other.

May happen in the waters off of Iran though ... accidents do happen when the sensors or the sonarman or the OOD don't do their job properly.

[Penelope_Grey]

Originally Posted by Morts

well if we're gonna have a new world war
let someone new start it
germany stop trying to conquer the world:rotfl: and let someone new start a world war:rotfl:
(joke post)

Be careul what you say - Many a True Word Hath Been Spoke in Jest.

Originally Posted by DAB

From the UK Sunday Telegraph (April 1st 2007 (Ignore the significance of that date))

Showing the Submarine arms race developing in the Asia Pacific region

That is one fast submarine.