VII attack periscope housing

Maverick30 · 06-17-07, 06:16 PM

It is possible to put the attack periscope housing of the IX sub into the command room of the VII sub? I think that should give great realism to the interior of the VII.

DivingDuck · 06-17-07, 11:32 PM

Moin,

it is. Be patient.

Regards,
DD

Reece · 06-17-07, 11:45 PM

OOOOH, teasing again DD,

I wait with patience!

flakmonkey · 06-18-07, 03:50 AM

already tried, i imported the model just fine however i couldnt edit the lightmap so it just appeared black

what it should look like...

ReallyDedPoet · 06-18-07, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

already tried, i imported the model just fine however i couldnt edit the lightmap so it just appeared black

what it should look like...

Looks good FM

RDP

DivingDuck · 06-19-07, 05:34 AM

Moin,

@FM:
looking great. Your screenie was made ingame or from maya?

Quote:

already tried, i imported the model just fine however i couldnt edit the lightmap so it just appeared black

Is it really black, or is the texture just pretty dark/foggy? Can you see the darkened texture when walking closer? When creating a new model without any lightmap nodes attached, a normal texture can be applied. But any additional info as light and shadow will be lost. You´ll have to hex edit a new texture node into the *.dat. A selfilluminated map may serve the same purpose as well. But in case you take damage and the lights go out, the well will stay lit, looking strange.

I´ve ported the typeIX periscope housing, including ligthmap. But as the model itself differs from the typeVII, it doesn´t look right in this environment. I´m trying to make my own lightmap next. It´s no problem to import but to apply to the right faces. Besides the CR.dat increases by about 4MB in size.

Regards,
DD

kiborg · 11-29-07, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

already tried, i imported the model just fine however i couldnt edit the lightmap so it just appeared black

what it should look like...

Why so it is beautiful? Can structures new have put?
PS: excuse me me for bad english.

danlisa · 11-29-07, 06:35 AM

That is not from the game. That is a 3D render / model.

Diving Duck is trying to make this for SH3.

Sailor Steve · 06-18-07, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick30

It is possible to put the attack periscope housing of the IX sub into the command room of the VII sub? I think that should give great realism to the interior of the VII.

I've been asking for this for years (well, at least one-and-a-half). It's nice to see someone as competent as these two are trying to do something about it.

flakmonkey · 06-25-07, 09:09 AM

I have no idea what all those numbers mean, this TMAP thing goes way over my head

If you want to have a crack at importing my model, ive uploaded it to http://www.savefile.com/files/839600 in .obj and .mb format.

It uses the druck_7 texture (which ive included in the rar), also included a couple of blueprint pics to help with placement within the command room.

If you use it, you may have to reverse the surface normals as maya saves .obj files differently to 3dsmax (the 3d app sh3 was made with).

DivingDuck · 06-25-07, 09:23 AM

Moin,

thank you FM, just downloaded it. Can you render a lightmap/shadowmap to texture? I´don´t have the whole model at hand. So it would be easier if you did.

Regards,
DD

flakmonkey · 06-25-07, 09:37 AM

Im not on my home pc right now so can`t, i`ll upload tomorrow.....

skwasjer · 06-25-07, 03:58 PM

PS: many interior models also have a "NORM" section (trailing the TMAP), which contains the normals for the model. Pack3D doesn't export this either. Without this information, shading and curves are not as accurate ingame compared to in your 3D editor, because the engine will calculate normals based on adjacency (let's not get into this...). This may not give the expected results when using low/medium-poly objects, especially for curves...
Many larger models (viewed only from a distance), iow. pretty much all exterior models don't have this data included in the game as shading from far distances is not required to be so accurate to still look good.

As some of you may know or not know, a tool to help you with all these problems is in the works. Maybe DD succeeds doing this manually (I hope so!), but just remain patient for my tool otherwise. Him and me are on close contact on these issues, so it's only a matter of time before I can release my tool.

urfisch · 06-25-07, 07:01 PM

im really running out of patience!

this progress is so exiting!

06-17-07, 06:16 PM	#1
Maverick30 Watch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 27 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	VII attack periscope housing It is possible to put the attack periscope housing of the IX sub into the command room of the VII sub? I think that should give great realism to the interior of the VII.

06-17-07, 11:32 PM	#2
DivingDuck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 902 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 1	Moin, it is. Be patient. Regards, DD __________________ http://www.filefront.com/user/DivingDuck \| OpenHatch_V3_RH (SHIII)

06-17-07, 11:45 PM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,704 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	OOOOH, teasing again DD, I wait with patience! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

06-18-07, 03:50 AM	#4
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	already tried, i imported the model just fine however i couldnt edit the lightmap so it just appeared black what it should look like... __________________

11-29-07, 06:35 AM	#8
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	That is not from the game. That is a 3D render / model. Diving Duck is trying to make this for SH3. __________________

06-25-07, 09:09 AM	#10
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I have no idea what all those numbers mean, this TMAP thing goes way over my head If you want to have a crack at importing my model, ive uploaded it to http://www.savefile.com/files/839600 in .obj and .mb format. It uses the druck_7 texture (which ive included in the rar), also included a couple of blueprint pics to help with placement within the command room. If you use it, you may have to reverse the surface normals as maya saves .obj files differently to 3dsmax (the 3d app sh3 was made with). __________________

06-25-07, 09:23 AM	#11
DivingDuck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 902 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 1	Moin, thank you FM, just downloaded it. Can you render a lightmap/shadowmap to texture? I´don´t have the whole model at hand. So it would be easier if you did. Regards, DD __________________ http://www.filefront.com/user/DivingDuck \| OpenHatch_V3_RH (SHIII)

06-25-07, 09:37 AM	#12
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Im not on my home pc right now so can`t, i`ll upload tomorrow..... __________________

06-25-07, 03:58 PM	#13
skwasjer The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,549 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 3	PS: many interior models also have a "NORM" section (trailing the TMAP), which contains the normals for the model. Pack3D doesn't export this either. Without this information, shading and curves are not as accurate ingame compared to in your 3D editor, because the engine will calculate normals based on adjacency (let's not get into this...). This may not give the expected results when using low/medium-poly objects, especially for curves... Many larger models (viewed only from a distance), iow. pretty much all exterior models don't have this data included in the game as shading from far distances is not required to be so accurate to still look good. As some of you may know or not know, a tool to help you with all these problems is in the works. Maybe DD succeeds doing this manually (I hope so!), but just remain patient for my tool otherwise. Him and me are on close contact on these issues, so it's only a matter of time before I can release my tool.

06-25-07, 07:01 PM	#14
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	im really running out of patience! this progress is so exiting! __________________