SH4 won't run with Process Explorer installed

Rockin Robbins · 06-14-07, 09:50 PM

Caution, anyone considering buying Silent Hunter 4, Wolves of the Pacific. The SecuROM protection system does not respect your right to legitimately and legally operate your computer as you see fit. When I started SH4 for the first time a pop-up window appeared saying "A required security module cannot be activated. This program cannot be executed (5024)." A link is supplied in the pop-up window. Clicking that link leads one to the SecuROM website where it says "SecuROM has determined that a Process Explorer program is running in the background. Please close this program and reboot your maching before you start the application."

Now Process Explorer is a legitimate piece of software, published by Microsoft Inc. as a replacement and augmentation of the task switcher. It in no way is intended to be used for piracy any more than your automobile is intended for the smuggling of drugs. If there were anything nefarious about Process Explorer, Microsoft would be the first company to take exception to it. Instead, they SUPPLY it. If you study the packaging and manuals to Wolves of the Pacific the only mention of possible problems of this nature is a nicely highlighted yellow box saying "This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives." There is no mention of Process Explorer conflict. Needless to say, Process Explorer has no application in disk copying.

This makes me wonder what other harmless and legitimate software might UBI and SecuROM object to on my machine? I obey the law and seek to support companies that serve me well. I have decided that interfering with the legitimate use of my computer is not serving me well. I will never again purchase a UBI product until it is crystal clear that their copy protection systems respect my rights to lawfully govern the use of my computer. I will not ask UBI, the burden is on them to convince me that they have had a change in heart. I strongly advise that anyone considering the purchase of any UBI product reconsider. A company which does not respect the rights of its customers, and in fact treats them with the presumption that they are criminals does not deserve to remain in business. Don't worry, another company with a proper attitude toward its customers will step forward to take their place.

THE_MASK · 06-14-07, 11:21 PM

One software conflicts with another one . Thats computers for you !!!!!!!

Reaves · 06-15-07, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

One software conflicts with another one . Thats computers for you !!!!!!!

Get a mac!!!

omg did I just say that?

Lunex · 06-15-07, 01:56 AM

Whats really annoying me is that users of a cracked version den got this ****
with really aggressive copyprotection -_-

Same for music. If you buy music your get DRM files, that tell you what you
may or may not do with your bought music.

Just download the track illegal and you get mp3s and can do what you want.

Why is always the paying customer the fool ?
Shoudnt he be better on then the "pirate" ?

so far,

Lunex
(using process explorer too)

Reaves · 06-15-07, 02:18 AM

Personally i've only had a problem once with starforce when I was using my motherboards IDE drivers instead of default windows ones but I understand the music comment. I buy music on ITunes but if I format my PC 5 times I don't have the songs anymore.

Can you say jibbed?

Seeadler · 06-15-07, 02:45 AM

SecuROM is from Sony, Sony and Microsoft are no real friends:rotfl:

I had a same SecuROM problem also with a installed professional DVD authoring and development software for E-learning products. Since I must use these software apps and the PC here vocationally at home till end of year, therefore I have removed SHIV from my system.

ReallyDedPoet · 06-15-07, 07:16 AM

Welcome

Lunex

RDP

SteamWake · 06-15-07, 08:48 AM

Have you tried contacting Securom ?

From the wiki

Process Explorer is a system monitoring and examination utility, similar to a souped-up version of Task Manager, and often can be used as the first step in debugging software or system problems when in the hands of an experienced software engineer.Process Explorer is a system monitoring and examination utility, similar to a souped-up version of Task Manager, and often can be used as the first step in debugging software or system problems when in the hands of an experienced software engineer.

I can see where it might conflict with copy protection schemes.

Capt. Shark Bait · 06-15-07, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaves

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

One software conflicts with another one . Thats computers for you !!!!!!!

Get a mac!!!

omg did I just say that?

ok, time to start an Article 32 hearing on your fitness to command? a mac?

Argus00 · 06-15-07, 07:07 AM

Yeah, the SecuRom protection gives me headaches about once a week, too. After a CTD (I'm starting to suspect that my occasional CTDs are also related to the copy protection), when I try to relaunch the game I get an ERROR 1000: PLEASE INSERT THE ORIGINAL DISC, NOT A BACKUP (!?!?!). Have to wait a few minutes for the sh4.exe to clear from memory, and THEN I can relaunch the game.

Don't have any background software running when I play.

06-14-07, 09:50 PM	#1
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	SH4 won't run with Process Explorer installed Caution, anyone considering buying Silent Hunter 4, Wolves of the Pacific. The SecuROM protection system does not respect your right to legitimately and legally operate your computer as you see fit. When I started SH4 for the first time a pop-up window appeared saying "A required security module cannot be activated. This program cannot be executed (5024)." A link is supplied in the pop-up window. Clicking that link leads one to the SecuROM website where it says "SecuROM has determined that a Process Explorer program is running in the background. Please close this program and reboot your maching before you start the application." Now Process Explorer is a legitimate piece of software, published by Microsoft Inc. as a replacement and augmentation of the task switcher. It in no way is intended to be used for piracy any more than your automobile is intended for the smuggling of drugs. If there were anything nefarious about Process Explorer, Microsoft would be the first company to take exception to it. Instead, they SUPPLY it. If you study the packaging and manuals to Wolves of the Pacific the only mention of possible problems of this nature is a nicely highlighted yellow box saying "This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some disc and virtual drives." There is no mention of Process Explorer conflict. Needless to say, Process Explorer has no application in disk copying. This makes me wonder what other harmless and legitimate software might UBI and SecuROM object to on my machine? I obey the law and seek to support companies that serve me well. I have decided that interfering with the legitimate use of my computer is not serving me well. I will never again purchase a UBI product until it is crystal clear that their copy protection systems respect my rights to lawfully govern the use of my computer. I will not ask UBI, the burden is on them to convince me that they have had a change in heart. I strongly advise that anyone considering the purchase of any UBI product reconsider. A company which does not respect the rights of its customers, and in fact treats them with the presumption that they are criminals does not deserve to remain in business. Don't worry, another company with a proper attitude toward its customers will step forward to take their place.

06-15-07, 02:18 AM	#5
Reaves The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,509 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Personally i've only had a problem once with starforce when I was using my motherboards IDE drivers instead of default windows ones but I understand the music comment. I buy music on ITunes but if I format my PC 5 times I don't have the songs anymore. Can you say jibbed? __________________

06-15-07, 07:16 AM	#7
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Welcome Lunex RDP __________________ Back in the Day

06-15-07, 07:07 AM	#10
Argus00 Sparky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 153 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Yeah, the SecuRom protection gives me headaches about once a week, too. After a CTD (I'm starting to suspect that my occasional CTDs are also related to the copy protection), when I try to relaunch the game I get an ERROR 1000: PLEASE INSERT THE ORIGINAL DISC, NOT A BACKUP (!?!?!). Have to wait a few minutes for the sh4.exe to clear from memory, and THEN I can relaunch the game. Don't have any background software running when I play. __________________ ________________________ Semper ubi sub ubi ubique.

06-14-07, 11:21 PM	#2
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	One software conflicts with another one . Thats computers for you !!!!!!!

06-15-07, 01:56 AM	#4
Lunex Nub Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	Whats really annoying me is that users of a cracked version den got this **** with really aggressive copyprotection -_- Same for music. If you buy music your get DRM files, that tell you what you may or may not do with your bought music. Just download the track illegal and you get mp3s and can do what you want. Why is always the paying customer the fool ? Shoudnt he be better on then the "pirate" ? so far, Lunex (using process explorer too)

06-15-07, 02:45 AM	#6
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	SecuROM is from Sony, Sony and Microsoft are no real friends:rotfl: I had a same SecuROM problem also with a installed professional DVD authoring and development software for E-learning products. Since I must use these software apps and the PC here vocationally at home till end of year, therefore I have removed SHIV from my system.

06-15-07, 08:48 AM	#8
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Have you tried contacting Securom ? From the wiki Process Explorer is a system monitoring and examination utility, similar to a souped-up version of Task Manager, and often can be used as the first step in debugging software or system problems when in the hands of an experienced software engineer.Process Explorer is a system monitoring and examination utility, similar to a souped-up version of Task Manager, and often can be used as the first step in debugging software or system problems when in the hands of an experienced software engineer. I can see where it might conflict with copy protection schemes.