PA planned homicide bombing with pregnant women

[Yahoshua]

Pregnant mother of eight planned suicide attack

Just when you thought the Palestinians have pulled out all the stops, pregnant women are sent to be "martyrs."
"Mother of Eight Planned Suicide Terror Attack in Israel," by Hillel Fendel for Israel National News:

Two women from Gaza - a pregnant mother of eight, and her niece, a mother of four - planned a joint two-pronged suicide attack in Tel Aviv and Netanya. They have been arrested. The General Security Service (GSS) has released for publication that the two women were arrested 24 days ago as they left Gaza for the double attack. Precise intelligence information led to the thwarting of the planned mass murders.
The GSS says that the two women "took advantage of Israel's humanitarian policies, receiving a fraudulent medical permit to enter Israel."
The two mothers took along some of their young children to the meetings with their terrorist handlers, at which was discussed precisely how the women would blow themselves up. The 19-year-old son of the older woman, an Islamic Jihad terrorist himself, was present at the traditional picture-taking ceremony, at which the women were photographed holding a Koran and a rifle.
The problem of actually getting into Israel was solved as follows: Islamic Jihad was able to obtain a forged medical permit indicating that Habib required an urgent medical check in Ramallah, to which Zeck was to be her escort. Once in Ramallah, they were to go to the hospital and actually have the test done, to avoid suspicion, and then they were to be taken to the intended target locations.
Israel is often castigated by left-wing organizations that complain that Arabs from the PA are sometimes forced to wait at checkpoints for security checks, and are allegedly denied medical care. The GSS, however, notes that the case at hand is only one of many in which Arabs attempt to take advantage of Israel's humanitarian policies in order to murder Israelis.

No further comment needed.



Source: http://www.jihadwatch.org/

[Letum]

What misguided extremes the Palestinians have been driven to!

[Reaves]

You know the worst thing? It will never end.

Generations of both sides in the conflict even bring it over here when they immigrate. I find it disgusting that anyone can use God's name to justify murder. No matter what religion.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Reaves

You know the worst thing? It will never end.

Generations of both sides in the conflict even bring it over here when they immigrate. I find it disgusting that anyone can use God's name to justify murder. No matter what religion.

Oh, it will end!
It's going to be a bloody long time tho. Pun intended.

I hope that those working to bring peace have success and those on both sides wanting conflict become more wise.

[robbo180265]

Originally Posted by Letum

Oh, it will end!
It's going to be a bloody long time tho. Pun intended.

I hope that those working to bring peace have success and those on both sides wanting conflict become more wise.

I don't think it will end - both sides blame the other,when in reality they're both as bad as each other IMHO.

[Reaves]

As long as people want to take vengeance for what the last generations did it will never end. They really could take a lesson from the west on this. Germany is now respected by all who went to war and so is Japan. America and the UK have good relations even though they killed each other. You could even go back futhur and look at Franch, Holland, Spain and the UK. All nice and chummy now.


Pitty we can't just get along.

[FIREWALL]

I showed this thread to my wife.

She shrugged her shoulders and said " The women had 8 kids to raise by
herself.... No wonder she wanted to commit suiside

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by Reaves

As long as people want to take vengeance for what the last generations did it will never end. They really could take a lesson from the west on this. Germany is now respected by all who went to war and so is Japan. America and the UK have good relations even though they killed each other. You could even go back futhur and look at Franch, Holland, Spain and the UK. All nice and chummy now.


Pitty we can't just get along.

If you go back to the days of celtic and angl-saxon tribalism there was a major problem with blood feuding that would lead to lengthy and undending wars between clans. A solution was the Wergild. It made monetary reimbursement a way to settle the score instead of killing endlessly.

So you could easily see perhaps the cultures of the Middle-East grow out of it, maybe. But then again the Celts didn't have major superpowers pulling the strings to keep them fighting for one reason or another. The natural growth of the Middle East is hampered by our own personal interests there. It isn't a universal explanation for why things are the way they are, but certainly its a component of why it persists. Israel in particular is so obtuse to responsibility for anything. The simplest acknowledgement of at least unbiased facts surrounnding that part of the world is hard to come by so getting any kind of nominal progress is... well its far off. Both sides play the game.

[Happy Times]

I dont see how you can compare a democratic nation and terrorist groups with pregnant suicide bombers.. The Palestinans have money but that goes to their Sheiks or who ever is in charge. Why dont they use that money to buy modern SAM, mortars, ATGM and ATGW. Train their piss poor shooters to hit something more than the air. Urban warfare, CQB, SF training and counter SF training. Start targeting only military, police and political targets. But they wont because they are the scum of the earth.

[Hitman]

I showed this thread to my wife.

She shrugged her shoulders and said " The women had 8 kids to raise by
herself.... No wonder she wanted to commit suiside

LOL told about this to my wife and guess what she said? "What I don't understand is why they waited till the 9th to have that idea"

(We currently have two little beasts of 8 and 25 months)

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Reaves

As long as people want to take vengeance for what the last generations did it will never end. They really could take a lesson from the west on this. Germany is now respected by all who went to war and so is Japan. America and the UK have good relations even though they killed each other. You could even go back futhur and look at Franch, Holland, Spain and the UK. All nice and chummy now.


Pitty we can't just get along.

If it can be sorted over in Ireland to an acceptable level surely there must be some hope for the Middle East :hmm:

[Skybird]

It's all madness down there, but it hasn't fallen down from the sky. It is man-made, and it is helped, pushed and wanted by man's motivations, agendas, ideologies, thoughts and goals. Where irrational mindsets, hysteria and hot emotions replace reason, calm and logic, we should think twice if we want to get involved. Better advise is to avoid such a hellhole at all cost - we have no means to deal with such a constellation. We also do not have the obligation, btw.

Not only species, but cultures and mindsets as well need to undergo an evolutionary process in order to develope to more advanced states. The Palestinians in special and the ME and Islam in general are no exception from that rule. And if Palestinians (or Muslims) don't like that to be told, or well-meaning but naive Westerners consider it unpolite to say so - who cares: it doesn't change this truth a bit.

I was critical of Israel building that fence some years ago. But I was forced to change my opinion. I repeatedly read statistics from Israel saying how clearly it has helped to reduce the number of attempted terror attacks - the innocence of facts that you can only counter by ignoring them. If Iran succeeds in taking over the Palestinian territories (and it looks like that), while it already has some major (and still growing) control in Lebanon as well, we maybe should remember that fence and understand that instead of trying to interact with the maniacs at all costs (and that means: at our costs), we better should spend our energy on isolating them and make sure that they cannot reach us from where they are. This of course also includes a major longterm intelligence operation, and if needed military operations, to supress any smuggling of modern arms and missiles into these territories. Money spend for that seems to serve a more constructive purpose than to pay for Palestine government with it that is not able or/and not willing to do something for us in return.

Every Euro in aide given to a Palestine hospital or school - is the one Euro Hamas and Fatah must not spend themselves on that hospital or school - thus being able to spend it on weapons and ammunition instead. It seems that the EU is not aware of this simple, elemental truth.

What a surprise.

And every dollar the Islamic countries do spend on raising more and more mosques and Islamic missionary beachheads in the West - is a dollar they do not spend on easing the fate of their brothers and sister called Palestinians. I really wonder why since months there is no money to pay the fees for teachers, bureaucrats, police - instead a loud yelling for the "responsebility" of the Europeans to pay for that, and demands for EU aide, and claims that one is "offended" if one is not given the money for free spending, but strictly attached for predetermined, civilian purposes (as the EU understands it).

As a matter fo fact, we owe them nothing.

Dear Palestinians, if you really would be so great and honourable, and the international community with your brothers and sisters in Islamic countries really would be such a wonderful thing and working so well - than you wouldn't be in the situation you are in now - since several decades. Instead of accusing all the others year for year, instead of increasing your population by a factor greater than four while your ressources became smaller and smaller, instead of letting foreign religious jihadists use your kids as cannon fodder for Islamic jihad, instead of offending, mocking, attacking us with your one hand while with your other hand you demand our money, I suggest you start to accept your share of responsebility for the mess you are in, and draw conseqeunces from that - finally, if I may add.

Of course I understand all too well that that is too much expected of you. And that is why I do not wish to spend a single Euro on you. I let you your will, and your choices. Now deal with what you get from that.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

If it can be sorted over in Ireland to an acceptable level surely there must be some hope for the Middle East :hmm:

Different temperaments, different mentalities, different cultural tradition, totally different underlying ideologies, totally different views on life and world and cosmos, God and all that stuff.

If you compare Ireland to the Middle East, then this is as naive as giving japan and germany after WWII as a comparing reason why one thought that the Iraq war would suceed in turning the country into a "democracy".

[Heibges]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Different temperaments, different mentalities, different cultural tradition, totally different underlying ideologies, totally different views on life and world and cosmos, God and all that stuff.

If you compare Ireland to the Middle East, then this is as naive as giving japan and germany after WWII as a comparing reason why one thought that the Iraq war would suceed in turning the country into a "democracy".

I have a bad feeling that 5 minutes after this War on Terror nonsense blows over, things will be SNAFU in Northern Ireland again.

I think the IRA was afraid of being linked to AQ, and then the British Government would be free to pull out all the stops against them.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Heibges

I have a bad feeling that 5 minutes after this War on Terror nonsense blows over, things will be SNAFU in Northern Ireland again.

I think the IRA was afraid of being linked to AQ, and then the British Government would be free to pull out all the stops against them.

They dont need to, do to demographics. They only have to wait when they have the majority.