A scripted event or pure chance?

Vacillator · 06-07-07, 03:11 AM

In another post I described my introduction to the Second Happy Time. Lots of destroyers and planes, but not so many targets as I'd expected.

Well, as fuel was dwindling I started to head back via Bermuda. Imagine my excitement when I picked up a contact which turned into 3 large tankers in line astern. They were moving fast so I quickly positioned and attacked.

Got hits on all and was rubbing my hands when suddenly it hit me....

What was that flag I saw? Why no cheering?

Oh no, look at the map - green marker for the first as it sank.

Minutes later I was the less than proud 'owner' of 55,450 tons of neutral tankers!

So I wondered whether these guys were scripted (if that's the right word) or whether it was chance? If it was chance, might they have been enemies on another day? It sure was a nice target but what a let-down...

Jimbuna · 06-07-07, 03:22 AM

Scripted I suspect.....don't forget there are South American countries who remained neutral until near the wars end.
Check the pulldown chart in the periscope screen for countries, dates and flags

Vacillator · 06-07-07, 07:19 AM

Wish I'd taken more notice of the flag Jim!

Something like Argentina's springs to mind (the naval flag obviously), although I wasn't aware they shipped much oil...Will have a better look later.

Don't suppose the full details of the ships could be gleaned from the log in SH3Cmdr?

Jimbuna · 06-07-07, 08:21 AM

Not as far as I am aware matey :hmm:

tenakha · 06-07-07, 09:25 AM

i noticed that when you see 2-3 ship sailing together without any escort they are generally neutral

bigboywooly · 06-07-07, 12:31 PM

You do get lone fast tankers from the allies sailing about

Always check the flags
Could have been Panamanian or Venezuelan tankers

bookworm_020 · 06-07-07, 06:23 PM

I have found pairs of tankers that were American in the carribean. The move pretty fast, and are sometimes armed, so the deck gun is out of the question.

I have seen a tanker with a merchant vessel as well, so there is occasions when you will get mini convoy's without escorts. It always pays to check the flag before opening fire. Did that once, and Uncle Karl wasn't that happy that I sank a German ore carrier!

At least I didn't get shot for it, and I still kept my command!

Vacillator · 06-08-07, 03:19 AM

Had a look at a few more flags but didn't see what I remembered. Don't really want to replay the episode just to identify them so I'll assume 'South American'. Anyway, that leaves me with 95k tons so far for the patrol

but 55k was neutral

!

Wonder if I should go back to the save before my unfortunate trigger-happiness?

azn_132 · 06-08-07, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vacillator

Had a look at a few more flags but didn't see what I remembered. Don't really want to replay the episode just to identify them so I'll assume 'South American'. Anyway, that leaves me with 95k tons so far for the patrol

but 55k was neutral

!

Wonder if I should go back to the save before my unfortunate trigger-happiness?

Go ahead and go bak to the last save.

Jimbuna · 06-08-07, 10:23 AM

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Wonder if I should go back to the save before my unfortunate trigger-happiness?

If the Geneva Convention tugs so hard on your heart strings....perhaps you had better

06-07-07, 03:11 AM	#1
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A scripted event or pure chance? In another post I described my introduction to the Second Happy Time. Lots of destroyers and planes, but not so many targets as I'd expected. Well, as fuel was dwindling I started to head back via Bermuda. Imagine my excitement when I picked up a contact which turned into 3 large tankers in line astern. They were moving fast so I quickly positioned and attacked. Got hits on all and was rubbing my hands when suddenly it hit me.... What was that flag I saw? Why no cheering? Oh no, look at the map - green marker for the first as it sank. Minutes later I was the less than proud 'owner' of 55,450 tons of neutral tankers! So I wondered whether these guys were scripted (if that's the right word) or whether it was chance? If it was chance, might they have been enemies on another day? It sure was a nice target but what a let-down...

06-07-07, 03:22 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Scripted I suspect.....don't forget there are South American countries who remained neutral until near the wars end. Check the pulldown chart in the periscope screen for countries, dates and flags __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-07-07, 08:21 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Not as far as I am aware matey :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-07-07, 09:25 AM	#5
tenakha Bosun Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Paris, France Posts: 64 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	i noticed that when you see 2-3 ship sailing together without any escort they are generally neutral __________________ Korvettenkapitän Wolfgang Barten 01SEP39 U-52, Type VIIB (7 patrols) 24SEP40 U-93, Type VIIC (7 patrols) Capital ship sunk: HMS Victorious; HMS Royal Oak days at sea: 384, tonnage: 823138/54000 GWX 3.0 user

06-07-07, 12:31 PM	#6
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	You do get lone fast tankers from the allies sailing about Always check the flags Could have been Panamanian or Venezuelan tankers __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-07-07, 07:19 AM	#3
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wish I'd taken more notice of the flag Jim! Something like Argentina's springs to mind (the naval flag obviously), although I wasn't aware they shipped much oil...Will have a better look later. Don't suppose the full details of the ships could be gleaned from the log in SH3Cmdr?

06-07-07, 06:23 PM	#7
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I have found pairs of tankers that were American in the carribean. The move pretty fast, and are sometimes armed, so the deck gun is out of the question. I have seen a tanker with a merchant vessel as well, so there is occasions when you will get mini convoy's without escorts. It always pays to check the flag before opening fire. Did that once, and Uncle Karl wasn't that happy that I sank a German ore carrier! At least I didn't get shot for it, and I still kept my command! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

06-08-07, 03:19 AM	#8
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Had a look at a few more flags but didn't see what I remembered. Don't really want to replay the episode just to identify them so I'll assume 'South American'. Anyway, that leaves me with 95k tons so far for the patrol but 55k was neutral ! Wonder if I should go back to the save before my unfortunate trigger-happiness?