What's the point of calling in contacts?

Crimguy · 06-03-07, 02:26 PM

Do you get anything in return? Reknown? Wolfpack form? A warm fuzzy feeling at helping B-Dienst? Using GWX 1.03 of course . . .

donut · 06-03-07, 02:35 PM

You would think they would give some renown,for risking a contact report,but I think it's just fluff. We do it for realism.

bigboywooly · 06-03-07, 02:36 PM

If you are close enough to German occupied territory you may get air support

Now I know for the allies when you are spotted by a merchant it can call in air and sea support
I suppose its the same for your reports
Nothing to prove that sea\sub units will respond to your call though

Iron Budokan · 06-03-07, 03:29 PM

You get renown for calling in a convoy contact. When you call in a single contact and are close enough for the Luftwaffe to show up, they then bomb the ship you were going after and take all the credit. That's always a lot of fun, too. :rotfl:

Kpt. Lehmann · 06-03-07, 04:15 PM

It appears to be a partially functional feature of SH3.

Just as there is an opportunity of German forces attacking your target as a result... there is also the opportunity that your message will be "intercepted" or picked up on Huff Duff... resulting in local enemy forces or aircraft being vectored to your position.

The "problem" lies with the reason to send such contact reports in game... because there is no consequence for failing to do so.

BdU was quite nosey... and demanded that u-boats respond to continuous enigma communications...

The enemy (on a good day) could decript enigma communications on almost a real-time basis... allowing them to even COMPLETELY re-route traffic around known U-boat locations.... which accounts for why some crews would spend weeks at sea.. without seeing a darn thing.

For this "feature" to work correctly in SH3... you have to "choose to play realistically" and send contact reports.

I wish there was some way to fix this... or at least generate some sort of random response from BdU to improve immersion in relation to contact reports.

The problem is triggering such a response from BdU in game.

irish1958 · 06-03-07, 04:23 PM

I called in a contact report in the Med, and four Romanian bombers responded and pounded it. They also took out the destroyer escorts and allowed me to bag three vessels. It was like watching a movie of a bomber attack on a convoy.

dcb · 06-04-07, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by irish1958

I called in a contact report in the Med, and four Romanian bombers responded and pounded it. They also took out the destroyer escorts and allowed me to bag three vessels. It was like watching a movie of a bomber attack on a convoy.

Romanian bombers in the Med? No way. They only operated in the Black Sea. If there really were Romanian planes, please GWX team, for the sake of realism, remove them in the next installment.

Now, coming to the original topic, there is at least one benefit of reporting convoys. You get their speed from the report.

Canovaro · 06-04-07, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

It appears to be a partially functional feature of SH3.

Just as there is an opportunity of German forces attacking your target as a result... there is also the opportunity that your message will be "intercepted" or picked up on Huff Duff... resulting in local enemy forces or aircraft being vectored to your position.

The "problem" lies with the reason to send such contact reports in game... because there is no consequence for failing to do so.

BdU was quite nosey... and demanded that u-boats respond to continuous enigma communications...

The enemy (on a good day) could decript enigma communications on almost a real-time basis... allowing them to even COMPLETELY re-route traffic around known U-boat locations.... which accounts for why some crews would spend weeks at sea.. without seeing a darn thing.

For this "feature" to work correctly in SH3... you have to "choose to play realistically" and send contact reports.

I wish there was some way to fix this... or at least generate some sort of random response from BdU to improve immersion in relation to contact reports.

The problem is triggering such a response from BdU in game.

Lehmann,

Keep an eye open for the upcoming Operation Spinnennetz; you may like it because there is interactivity with BdU via status/contact reports to improve immersion. Enigma coded messages will also be accepted and replied to.

And Crimguy may get that warm fuzzy feeling if he reports status and contact reports to BdU in Spinnennetz.

Snakeeyes · 06-04-07, 08:53 AM

I've been playing SHIII for over a year now and not one time have the Luftwaffe come down to help. Don't worry, I'm not an X-files buff (conspiracy theorist) so I believe it happens just never to me.

ReM · 06-04-07, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeyes

I've been playing SHIII for over a year now and not one time have the Luftwaffe come down to help. Don't worry, I'm not an X-files buff (conspiracy theorist) so I believe it happens just never to me.

Give the coast of Norway a try during spring 1940, I had a few patrols there that borught me encounters with:
1) icebergs
2) naval traffic, merchant and navy
3) air traffic
4) air traffic attacking enemy convoy.....Ju 87 or Ju 88...not sure.

And there are some nice juicy targets waiting in the fjord north of Narvik...

Jimbuna · 06-04-07, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimguy

Do you get anything in return? Reknown? Wolfpack form? A warm fuzzy feeling at helping B-Dienst? Using GWX 1.03 of course . . .

Only a 'warm fuzzy' feeling I'm afraid

bigboywooly · 06-04-07, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcb

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish1958

I called in a contact report in the Med, and four Romanian bombers responded and pounded it. They also took out the destroyer escorts and allowed me to bag three vessels. It was like watching a movie of a bomber attack on a convoy.

Romanian bombers in the Med? No way. They only operated in the Black Sea. If there really were Romanian planes, please GWX team, for the sake of realism, remove them in the next installment.

.

There are no Romanian aircraft in the Med
I imagine they flew from bases close to the Med ( From Romania or Bulgaria ) in the engagement posted above

The game will send aircraft from bases in range
Whether realistic or not

Rwolf · 06-05-07, 12:25 PM

Sometimes close to the UK main ports, I've called in reporting a convoy, and then left it alone (out of torps), only to soon run into another convoy heading in the opposite direction; the limit of calling a convoy position only once every 12hrs, makes reporting the second convoy impossible. (Have to follow the new convoy until the timer expires, then report it)

When such reports have been followed up by german air attacks, these seem to come from the west (UK), if I'm on the east coast of Britain. I suspect Luftwaffe has a secret base somewhere around Dover...

Jimbuna · 06-05-07, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rwolf

Sometimes close to the UK main ports, I've called in reporting a convoy, and then left it alone (out of torps), only to soon run into another convoy heading in the opposite direction; the limit of calling a convoy position only once every 12hrs, makes reporting the second convoy impossible. (Have to follow the new convoy until the timer expires, then report it)

When such reports have been followed up by german air attacks, these seem to come from the west (UK), if I'm on the east coast of Britain. I suspect Luftwaffe has a secret base somewhere around Dover...

Don't let everyone in on the secret

svenks · 06-05-07, 03:33 PM

Hi all,
Well occasionally I've had BdU give me a 'well done' for at contact report. However, I'm pretty sure you must have a target visually locked for this to happen. This might easily put you in harm's way

BRGDS
Sven
(yes, I'm still around - but I've just discovered World of Warcraft...)

EDIT: Thank godnesss I'm rid of the medic avatar

06-03-07, 02:26 PM	#1
Crimguy A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a trench outside Vicksburg Posts: 73 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	What's the point of calling in contacts? Do you get anything in return? Reknown? Wolfpack form? A warm fuzzy feeling at helping B-Dienst? Using GWX 1.03 of course . . . __________________ -=-=-=-=-=- Crimguy

06-03-07, 02:36 PM	#3
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	If you are close enough to German occupied territory you may get air support Now I know for the allies when you are spotted by a merchant it can call in air and sea support I suppose its the same for your reports Nothing to prove that sea\sub units will respond to your call though __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-03-07, 03:29 PM	#4
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	You get renown for calling in a convoy contact. When you call in a single contact and are close enough for the Luftwaffe to show up, they then bomb the ship you were going after and take all the credit. That's always a lot of fun, too. :rotfl: __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

06-03-07, 04:15 PM	#5
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	It appears to be a partially functional feature of SH3. Just as there is an opportunity of German forces attacking your target as a result... there is also the opportunity that your message will be "intercepted" or picked up on Huff Duff... resulting in local enemy forces or aircraft being vectored to your position. The "problem" lies with the reason to send such contact reports in game... because there is no consequence for failing to do so. BdU was quite nosey... and demanded that u-boats respond to continuous enigma communications... The enemy (on a good day) could decript enigma communications on almost a real-time basis... allowing them to even COMPLETELY re-route traffic around known U-boat locations.... which accounts for why some crews would spend weeks at sea.. without seeing a darn thing. For this "feature" to work correctly in SH3... you have to "choose to play realistically" and send contact reports. I wish there was some way to fix this... or at least generate some sort of random response from BdU to improve immersion in relation to contact reports. The problem is triggering such a response from BdU in game. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

06-03-07, 04:23 PM	#6
irish1958 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carmel, Indiana Posts: 3,250 Downloads: 320 Uploads: 11	Contact reports I called in a contact report in the Med, and four Romanian bombers responded and pounded it. They also took out the destroyer escorts and allowed me to bag three vessels. It was like watching a movie of a bomber attack on a convoy. __________________ Irish1958

06-03-07, 02:35 PM	#2
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You would think they would give some renown,for risking a contact report,but I think it's just fluff. We do it for realism.

06-04-07, 08:53 AM	#9
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	I've been playing SHIII for over a year now and not one time have the Luftwaffe come down to help. Don't worry, I'm not an X-files buff (conspiracy theorist) so I believe it happens just never to me. __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

06-05-07, 12:25 PM	#13
Rwolf Watch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 21 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Sometimes close to the UK main ports, I've called in reporting a convoy, and then left it alone (out of torps), only to soon run into another convoy heading in the opposite direction; the limit of calling a convoy position only once every 12hrs, makes reporting the second convoy impossible. (Have to follow the new convoy until the timer expires, then report it) When such reports have been followed up by german air attacks, these seem to come from the west (UK), if I'm on the east coast of Britain. I suspect Luftwaffe has a secret base somewhere around Dover...

06-05-07, 03:33 PM	#15
svenks Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 129 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Hi all, Well occasionally I've had BdU give me a 'well done' for at contact report. However, I'm pretty sure you must have a target visually locked for this to happen. This might easily put you in harm's way BRGDS Sven (yes, I'm still around - but I've just discovered World of Warcraft...) EDIT: Thank godnesss I'm rid of the medic avatar