GWX - dive/surface tables?

MarkShot · 06-02-07, 05:13 PM

Would anyone happen to have tables of dive/surface times for GWX player subs? By speed, depth, time? Or simply rate by speed?

I have just realized that dive times in this game are probably the slowest of all the subsims, I have played. At 1kts down to 141M from PD has taken 30 minutes.

I remember SH2/PA where you could manually control the dive plans. Literally, you could dive like a brick of depleted uranium if you wanted to. Of course, the hard part was coming out before crush depth!

By the way, are these dive times at all realistic or are they just what is hard coded in the game?

Thanks.

PS: With everything which I can control in this game, why don't I have control of the dive planes? Why is my only option to control dive rate by speed? SH1 allowed you to manually control the planes with up and down arrow keys. It kind of reminds me of Sub Command in this regard - the graphics are there, just not the controls.

bigboywooly · 06-02-07, 05:21 PM

Yeah 1k will take forever to get anywhere and is only really meant for silent running while submerged

Not sure if using " D " will adjust the bow planes to get you down quicker

The dive times are in the SHIII manual in the documentation folder
I guess those are for crash dive though

MarkShot · 06-02-07, 07:38 PM

Also, I think those dive times in the SH3 manual are actually "time to submerge".

SleightOfHand · 06-02-07, 08:04 PM

I think that maybe I'll SH3C myself all the different submarines tomorrow and test time from PD to certain depths at different speeds. >.>

Jimbuna · 06-03-07, 06:50 AM

@MarkShot

Submerged/under waters surface

@SleightOfHand

That sort of task may take months ie; 1, 2, 3, 4, @10, 20, 30 etc. Unless you interspace your speed and depth increments adequately :hmm:

Crimguy · 06-03-07, 11:25 AM

With GWX I seem to be unable to dive to assigned depth at 1kt. I have to be 2kts or faster. Maybe I need to install the reduced positive buoancy mod.

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Originally Posted by MarkShot

Would anyone happen to have tables of dive/surface times for GWX player subs? By speed, depth, time? Or simply rate by speed?

I have just realized that dive times in this game are probably the slowest of all the subsims, I have played. At 1kts down to 141M from PD has taken 30 minutes.

I remember SH2/PA where you could manually control the dive plans. Literally, you could dive like a brick of depleted uranium if you wanted to. Of course, the hard part was coming out before crush depth!

By the way, are these dive times at all realistic or are they just what is hard coded in the game?

Thanks.

PS: With everything which I can control in this game, why don't I have control of the dive planes? Why is my only option to control dive rate by speed? SH1 allowed you to manually control the planes with up and down arrow keys. It kind of reminds me of Sub Command in this regard - the graphics are there, just not the controls.

MarkShot · 06-03-07, 11:29 AM

Yes, I installed that and it is still a struggle trying to not slowly creep up while at PD.

Kpt. Lehmann · 06-03-07, 06:32 PM

As mentioned in other threads, what we really need in SH3 we do not have.

Variable bouyancy. (Along with a number of other real life factors that are not modelled in game... such as salinity and water temperature.)

Modding bouyancy in SH3 is an imperfect animal to say the least, be it positive or negative.

The "Reduced Positive Bouyancy" optional mod currently included with GWX will become default with the release of GWX version 1.04. (We are not satisfied with the current default positive bouyancy in GWX.)

Regarding diving times, our primary objective was to stay within +\- two seconds of the crash dive times listed with stock SH3... and to retain depth control at as close to 1.5 to 2.0 knots as was possible.

06-02-07, 05:13 PM	#1
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	GWX - dive/surface tables? Would anyone happen to have tables of dive/surface times for GWX player subs? By speed, depth, time? Or simply rate by speed? I have just realized that dive times in this game are probably the slowest of all the subsims, I have played. At 1kts down to 141M from PD has taken 30 minutes. I remember SH2/PA where you could manually control the dive plans. Literally, you could dive like a brick of depleted uranium if you wanted to. Of course, the hard part was coming out before crush depth! By the way, are these dive times at all realistic or are they just what is hard coded in the game? Thanks. PS: With everything which I can control in this game, why don't I have control of the dive planes? Why is my only option to control dive rate by speed? SH1 allowed you to manually control the planes with up and down arrow keys. It kind of reminds me of Sub Command in this regard - the graphics are there, just not the controls. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

06-02-07, 05:21 PM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Yeah 1k will take forever to get anywhere and is only really meant for silent running while submerged Not sure if using " D " will adjust the bow planes to get you down quicker The dive times are in the SHIII manual in the documentation folder I guess those are for crash dive though __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

06-02-07, 07:38 PM	#3
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Also, I think those dive times in the SH3 manual are actually "time to submerge". __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

06-03-07, 06:50 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	@MarkShot Submerged/under waters surface @SleightOfHand That sort of task may take months ie; 1, 2, 3, 4, @10, 20, 30 etc. Unless you interspace your speed and depth increments adequately :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-03-07, 11:29 AM	#7
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Yes, I installed that and it is still a struggle trying to not slowly creep up while at PD. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

06-02-07, 08:04 PM	#4
SleightOfHand Sailor man Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 44 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I think that maybe I'll SH3C myself all the different submarines tomorrow and test time from PD to certain depths at different speeds. >.>

06-03-07, 06:32 PM	#8
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	As mentioned in other threads, what we really need in SH3 we do not have. Variable bouyancy. (Along with a number of other real life factors that are not modelled in game... such as salinity and water temperature.) Modding bouyancy in SH3 is an imperfect animal to say the least, be it positive or negative. The "Reduced Positive Bouyancy" optional mod currently included with GWX will become default with the release of GWX version 1.04. (We are not satisfied with the current default positive bouyancy in GWX.) Regarding diving times, our primary objective was to stay within +\- two seconds of the crash dive times listed with stock SH3... and to retain depth control at as close to 1.5 to 2.0 knots as was possible. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock