Silent Hunter 1 - Is it ok to share?

BlightLightning · 05-27-07, 01:49 AM

Can anyone tell me if it is ok to give away copies of Silent Hunter 1. I can't get it to run on Xp, and Xp won't allow access to the ntfs file system from a floppy boot. I think I may get an older computer, maybe 486 or something for these old games...

Anyway, some people are still interested it the first release of Silent Hunter, and
I have it ready on file front, but I don't want any problems with copyright police! Tried this, tried that but the web sites are automated. Seems this game no longer exhists.

So-ooooo....

Should I release it, or shouldn't I? What would you do?

goldorak · 05-27-07, 01:53 AM

Simply use the latest version of dosbox.
Silent Hunter I works like a charm.

Don't share it, it is still a copyright work and has not been made public domain.

BlightLightning · 05-27-07, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak

Simply use the latest version of dosbox.
Silent Hunter I works like a charm.

Don't share it, it is still a copyright work and has not been made public domain.

I downloaded this box and there are zero bytes free on drive c ! It can only access the root directory but there is no room left there...

Any Ideas on how to get it to work? I can't seem to jump-start SH.exe. A batch file perhaps (.bat), with the right calls or...

Something

robbierob2005 · 05-27-07, 04:55 AM

download dosbox and install it. Then download dfend and install it.
Make sure your sh1 files are in a folder on your drive.
Run dfend and make a profile for sh1. Just play with all the options. You'll see. It will work.

Immacolata · 05-27-07, 05:27 AM

SSI was bought by UBI AFAIK. So they most likely hold the rights to all games with that name, as well as all other SSI titles they bought back then. Which is why they can publish SH3 and SH4

As for sharing, you are breaking the copyright and that could bring both you and filefront into trouble. Most likely they will nuke the files if they find out. You might possibly get a nastygram from ubi lawyers too.

John Channing · 05-27-07, 06:50 AM

This would be considered warez and any reference to it could result in a permanent ban from Subsim.com.

In other words, No.

JCC

BlightLightning · 05-28-07, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immacolata

SSI was bought by UBI AFAIK. So they most likely hold the rights to all games with that name, as well as all other SSI titles they bought back then. Which is why they can publish SH3 and SH4

As for sharing, you are breaking the copyright and that could bring both you and filefront into trouble. Most likely they will nuke the files if they find out. You might possibly get a nastygram from ubi lawyers too.

I have submitted this to FileFront! UbiSoft does not respond to Silent Hunter 1... I am not requesting an opinion. I am searching for genuine routs to insure the release is legal and honest. I am not trying to give a sale item away free. I only wish to share a game I have which others can no-longer find.

Besides, I uploaded it, but I have not released the file to the public as of yet...

BlightLightning

BlightLightning · 05-29-07, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbierob2005

download dosbox and install it. Then download dfend and install it.
Make sure your sh1 files are in a folder on your drive.
Run dfend and make a profile for sh1. Just play with all the options. You'll see. It will work.

I just read a post about Silent Hunter 1 and Xp
I zipped these files then deleted them:

COPYR.SMK
LOGO444.SMK
SHIN.SMK

Now the game runs without any external help!
Seem these intro videos no longer work with Windows.

A copy of DIG.INI:

;
;Miles Design Audio Interface Library V3.03 of 18-Jun-95
;
DEVICE Creative Labs Sound Blaster or 100% compatible
DRIVER SBLASTER.DIG
IO_ADDR 220h
IRQ 5
DMA_8_BIT -1
DMA_16_BIT -1

... and a copy of MDI.INI
;
;Miles Design Audio Interface Library V3.03 of 18-Jun-95
;
DEVICE Creative Labs Sound Blaster Pro (new version)
DRIVER SBPRO2.MDI
IO_ADDR 220h
IRQ -1
DMA_8_BIT -1
DMA_16_BIT -1

Maybe this can help you to run the game from windows directly

BlightLightning

Hitman · 05-29-07, 03:22 PM

Just to clarify:

If you get EXPLICIT and WRITTEN permission from UBI -current copyright owner- you can share the game. If not, forget about posting links to it in this forums, or even insinuating something about it, even if it is giving them away per private messaging. Susbism's policy is very strict about that.

You can go to other forums that are appropiate for such things, that's your choice, but please stick to what we have said so far. I don't want misunderstandings later in case you try to share that game here

05-31-07, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlightLightning

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbierob2005

download dosbox and install it. Then download dfend and install it.
Make sure your sh1 files are in a folder on your drive.
Run dfend and make a profile for sh1. Just play with all the options. You'll see. It will work.

I just read a post about Silent Hunter 1 and Xp
I zipped these files then deleted them:

COPYR.SMK
LOGO444.SMK
SHIN.SMK

Now the game runs without any external help!
Seem these intro videos no longer work with Windows.

A copy of DIG.INI:

;
;Miles Design Audio Interface Library V3.03 of 18-Jun-95
;
DEVICE Creative Labs Sound Blaster or 100% compatible
DRIVER SBLASTER.DIG
IO_ADDR 220h
IRQ 5
DMA_8_BIT -1
DMA_16_BIT -1

... and a copy of MDI.INI
;
;Miles Design Audio Interface Library V3.03 of 18-Jun-95
;
DEVICE Creative Labs Sound Blaster Pro (new version)
DRIVER SBPRO2.MDI
IO_ADDR 220h
IRQ -1
DMA_8_BIT -1
DMA_16_BIT -1

Maybe this can help you to run the game from windows directly

BlightLightning

Excellent

. No more DOSBox needed (worked fine, but was a bit jerky with sounds).

My only problem now is that mouse is a bit slow, but it is definitely an improvement. If I wasn't so addicted to Pacific Aces:rotfl:

BlightLightning · 05-27-07, 02:46 AM

I tried contacting Strategic Solutions Inc. but it seems they no longer exhist. The company is gone and no-one bought the rights for this old dos game. It isn't possible, at least for me, to check and see if the copyright has been renewed when the game seems to only exhist in the memories of other people. The copyright for it appearently ran out in 2002, and the deadline for re-applying, (a "no-one grabbed it yet" clause) acording to an in-accessable statute of limitations for a valueless game, closed two years later. Not only that, but the reliability of my sources is questionable and hazy!

I believe this to be one of many left in limbo. Hopefully forgotten for the benefit of newer game sales! I think I have tried everything, and even put a bit too much work into such a small item. If anyone has any ideas on how to ask for permission, to share it, I would be most interested. I think it is more "The thrill of the chase" at this point.

Tracking this issue has spiked my curiousity!

05-27-07, 01:49 AM	#1
BlightLightning Mate Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Silent Hunter 1 - Is it ok to share? Can anyone tell me if it is ok to give away copies of Silent Hunter 1. I can't get it to run on Xp, and Xp won't allow access to the ntfs file system from a floppy boot. I think I may get an older computer, maybe 486 or something for these old games... Anyway, some people are still interested it the first release of Silent Hunter, and I have it ready on file front, but I don't want any problems with copyright police! Tried this, tried that but the web sites are automated. Seems this game no longer exhists. So-ooooo.... Should I release it, or shouldn't I? What would you do?

05-27-07, 05:27 AM	#5
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	SSI was bought by UBI AFAIK. So they most likely hold the rights to all games with that name, as well as all other SSI titles they bought back then. Which is why they can publish SH3 and SH4 As for sharing, you are breaking the copyright and that could bring both you and filefront into trouble. Most likely they will nuke the files if they find out. You might possibly get a nastygram from ubi lawyers too. __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

05-29-07, 03:22 PM	#9
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Just to clarify: If you get EXPLICIT and WRITTEN permission from UBI -current copyright owner- you can share the game. If not, forget about posting links to it in this forums, or even insinuating something about it, even if it is giving them away per private messaging. Susbism's policy is very strict about that. You can go to other forums that are appropiate for such things, that's your choice, but please stick to what we have said so far. I don't want misunderstandings later in case you try to share that game here __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

05-27-07, 02:46 AM	#11
BlightLightning Mate Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Silent Hunter 1 I tried contacting Strategic Solutions Inc. but it seems they no longer exhist. The company is gone and no-one bought the rights for this old dos game. It isn't possible, at least for me, to check and see if the copyright has been renewed when the game seems to only exhist in the memories of other people. The copyright for it appearently ran out in 2002, and the deadline for re-applying, (a "no-one grabbed it yet" clause) acording to an in-accessable statute of limitations for a valueless game, closed two years later. Not only that, but the reliability of my sources is questionable and hazy! I believe this to be one of many left in limbo. Hopefully forgotten for the benefit of newer game sales! I think I have tried everything, and even put a bit too much work into such a small item. If anyone has any ideas on how to ask for permission, to share it, I would be most interested. I think it is more "The thrill of the chase" at this point. Tracking this issue has spiked my curiousity!

05-27-07, 01:53 AM	#2
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Simply use the latest version of dosbox. Silent Hunter I works like a charm. Don't share it, it is still a copyright work and has not been made public domain.

05-27-07, 04:55 AM	#4
robbierob2005 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Beneath the surface..... Posts: 334 Downloads: 83 Uploads: 0	download dosbox and install it. Then download dfend and install it. Make sure your sh1 files are in a folder on your drive. Run dfend and make a profile for sh1. Just play with all the options. You'll see. It will work.

05-27-07, 06:50 AM	#6
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	This would be considered warez and any reference to it could result in a permanent ban from Subsim.com. In other words, No. JCC