Johann from Das Boot

Radtgaeb · 05-25-07, 12:07 AM

So, I was watching "Das Boot" again the other day, and during the scenes with Irwin Leder playing Johann, I kept thinking "God, I know this guy, where have I seen him."

Then a few days later, I'm sitting in physics class and I realize that he's a dead ringer for my physics instructor. Totally random, but thought I'd share.

AntEater · 05-25-07, 08:57 AM

Erwin Leder is a regular in german TV series, mostly playing tramps or alcoholics...
But he did play a vampire in "Underworld" according to IMDB. I didnt notice anyone except Kate Beckinsdale in that movie so I must have missed him...

Chock · 05-25-07, 09:32 AM

The scene where Johann snaps in Das Boot is one of the great bits of character exposition in the movie for me, and not just for the character Johann either...

Johann does what everyone else is clearly close to doing, but everyone else is held back from doing so by the collective support of their shipmates. Johann, in isolation at the stern of the sub, doesn't have this steadying collective support, and so is the first to give in to his fear. In that situation the Captain - another character who is somewhat isolated by the fact that he is alone in command - is offered a release from the same feelings by directing his fear into the act of getting his pistol and at least being offered the possibility of doing something - anything - to distract him in what must have been a terrifying situation in real life. It's a very telling moment for Jurgen Prochnow's character, who is typically restrained and calm throughout the rest of the movie.

One of the great moments in a great film. When you watch that, it just points up what a suck-ass pile of crap U-571 is in comparison.

I'd be interested to know what others think is the 'best bit' of Das Boot.

Chock

Iron Budokan · 05-25-07, 06:42 PM

I like the convoy attack best. Eh, I'm easy to please....

Radtgaeb · 05-26-07, 11:15 PM

As depressin as it is, I liked the last scene. No, not because of the explosions.

Because U96 was in itself a character in that film. You're saying to yourself "uhh, Radtgaeb, it was a boat!". Yeah, but one will find that authors and directors like to take inanimate things and turn them into characters (The truck in "Grapes of Wrath"...the cities of New York and Chicago in "Sister Carrie") this is a form of that which we like to call 'personification'.

Anyway, U96 was a character (a dynamic character at that--situation FUBAR to surviving, bluntly) and the men grew attached to it, cared for it, loved it even. They spent days to fix it while on the bottom and God knows how many weeks limping home, probably. The well being of the ship meant their own well being. Then, after they have made their way home and are getting the heroes welcome, the planes swoop out of nowhere and destroy that which they fought so hard to preserve. The most moving scene I've ever seen in any movie (save "Schindler's List) is at the end where the captain is staring at the ship as she sinks; and as she settles on the bottom, he dies as well.

So that's may favorite scene!

Lagger123987 · 05-27-07, 12:25 AM

What Das Boot mean in Gibberish?

Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 05-27-07, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

What Das Boot mean in Gibberish?

you moron

Radtgaeb · 05-27-07, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

What Das Boot mean in Gibberish?

you moron

Ban him for his blasphemy!

Lagger123987 · 05-27-07, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleu. Jochen Mohr

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

What Das Boot mean in Gibberish?

you moron

Ban him for his blasphemy!

Who?

Radtgaeb · 05-27-07, 08:50 AM

You, if you honestly don't know what Das Boot means/is.

Oberon · 05-27-07, 09:21 AM

Dowly · 05-27-07, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

As depressin as it is, I liked the last scene. No, not because of the explosions.

Because U96 was in itself a character in that film. You're saying to yourself "uhh, Radtgaeb, it was a boat!". Yeah, but one will find that authors and directors like to take inanimate things and turn them into characters (The truck in "Grapes of Wrath"...the cities of New York and Chicago in "Sister Carrie") this is a form of that which we like to call 'personification'.

Anyway, U96 was a character (a dynamic character at that--situation FUBAR to surviving, bluntly) and the men grew attached to it, cared for it, loved it even. They spent days to fix it while on the bottom and God knows how many weeks limping home, probably. The well being of the ship meant their own well being. Then, after they have made their way home and are getting the heroes welcome, the planes swoop out of nowhere and destroy that which they fought so hard to preserve. The most moving scene I've ever seen in any movie (save "Schindler's List) is at the end where the captain is staring at the ship as she sinks; and as she settles on the bottom, he dies as well.

So that's may favorite scene!

My fav scene too.

It wouldnt be Das Boot without that scene.

Lagger123987 · 05-27-07, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

You, if you honestly don't know what Das Boot means/is.

DAS BOOT MEAN THATS BOOT.

Jimbuna · 05-27-07, 12:35 PM

Hey, give it a rest, your on just about every thread without adding anything of any sense or value. You got my OE feeling sick and overworked

bigboywooly · 05-27-07, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagger123987

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Originally Posted by Radtgaeb

You, if you honestly don't know what Das Boot means/is.

DAS BOOT MEAN THATS BOOT.

THE boat

05-25-07, 12:07 AM	#1
Radtgaeb Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Muncie, IN Posts: 300 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Johann from Das Boot So, I was watching "Das Boot" again the other day, and during the scenes with Irwin Leder playing Johann, I kept thinking "God, I know this guy, where have I seen him." Then a few days later, I'm sitting in physics class and I realize that he's a dead ringer for my physics instructor. Totally random, but thought I'd share. __________________

05-25-07, 08:57 AM	#2
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Erwin Leder is a regular in german TV series, mostly playing tramps or alcoholics... But he did play a vampire in "Underworld" according to IMDB. I didnt notice anyone except Kate Beckinsdale in that movie so I must have missed him... __________________

05-25-07, 06:42 PM	#4
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I like the convoy attack best. Eh, I'm easy to please.... __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

05-26-07, 11:15 PM	#5
Radtgaeb Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Muncie, IN Posts: 300 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	As depressin as it is, I liked the last scene. No, not because of the explosions. Because U96 was in itself a character in that film. You're saying to yourself "uhh, Radtgaeb, it was a boat!". Yeah, but one will find that authors and directors like to take inanimate things and turn them into characters (The truck in "Grapes of Wrath"...the cities of New York and Chicago in "Sister Carrie") this is a form of that which we like to call 'personification'. Anyway, U96 was a character (a dynamic character at that--situation FUBAR to surviving, bluntly) and the men grew attached to it, cared for it, loved it even. They spent days to fix it while on the bottom and God knows how many weeks limping home, probably. The well being of the ship meant their own well being. Then, after they have made their way home and are getting the heroes welcome, the planes swoop out of nowhere and destroy that which they fought so hard to preserve. The most moving scene I've ever seen in any movie (save "Schindler's List) is at the end where the captain is staring at the ship as she sinks; and as she settles on the bottom, he dies as well. So that's may favorite scene! __________________

05-27-07, 08:50 AM	#10
Radtgaeb Frogman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Muncie, IN Posts: 300 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	You, if you honestly don't know what Das Boot means/is. __________________

05-25-07, 09:32 AM	#3
Chock Sea Lord Join Date: May 2005 Location: Under a thermal layer in chilly Olde England Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The scene where Johann snaps in Das Boot is one of the great bits of character exposition in the movie for me, and not just for the character Johann either... Johann does what everyone else is clearly close to doing, but everyone else is held back from doing so by the collective support of their shipmates. Johann, in isolation at the stern of the sub, doesn't have this steadying collective support, and so is the first to give in to his fear. In that situation the Captain - another character who is somewhat isolated by the fact that he is alone in command - is offered a release from the same feelings by directing his fear into the act of getting his pistol and at least being offered the possibility of doing something - anything - to distract him in what must have been a terrifying situation in real life. It's a very telling moment for Jurgen Prochnow's character, who is typically restrained and calm throughout the rest of the movie. One of the great moments in a great film. When you watch that, it just points up what a suck-ass pile of crap U-571 is in comparison. I'd be interested to know what others think is the 'best bit' of Das Boot. Chock

05-27-07, 12:25 AM	#6
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05-27-07, 12:35 PM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Hey, give it a rest, your on just about every thread without adding anything of any sense or value. You got my OE feeling sick and overworked __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!