Taking a break

bigboywooly · 05-21-07, 12:30 PM

Well this forum has become a nightmare lately
Not the SH3 mods but in general
Yeah I know SH4 sucks and they all hate it theres not another patch but its open season on anything SH3 and especially GWX

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=14

And thats in the SH4 forum
What are we not allowed to play SH4
Or comment on our own back ?

So I think a retirement is in order
Permanent ?
Maybe
Certainly more destructive than constructive in here at the moment

I have GWX 1.04 to work on and all this BS dont help

Jimbuna · 05-21-07, 01:04 PM

The crew are being mustered over at The Den....a roll call will be taken. After all, time is needed to reprovision the ship.
The question is....who will feed the rest of the GWX navy in the interim ? :hmm:

Hitman · 05-21-07, 01:28 PM

Quote:

I have GWX 1.04 to work on and all this BS dont help

Now that's what many people were expecting to read

I'm sorry you are currently fed up, yet I'm happy you still think positively in terms of going back to the GWX development. Have a rest and you'll see things differently

vanjast · 05-21-07, 02:09 PM

You shouldn't let peoples opinions dissuade from what you want to do. Everybody likes different things and what one does is not going to suite everyone - who cares.

All the Modders have made the game what it is today. The only stumbling block lately seems to be UBI itself, but this is just heresay at the moment - we'll see.

Mush Martin · 05-21-07, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Certainly more destructive than constructive in here at the moment

Concur

Thanks for all I cant say how much your presence molded my time
here at ss but it amounts to a lot. Rest up and come back anytime BBW.

MM

nikbear · 05-21-07, 03:29 PM

I wouldn't let a few idiots worry you and stand in the way of you doing what you enjoy and what you are good at,Sod'em, for every one fool who makes you think twice,think of the many who you've helped and the wonderful times you've given to people through your mods and with your work with GWX

I find alot of carping comes from jealousy and ignorance,remember its easy to be destructive,any fool can do that,but it takes genuine talent to be creative

and if thats a problem for them then tuff,sod'em

JU_88 · 05-21-07, 04:53 PM

Yeah the mood in here has been getting ugly thanks to angry mobs and sour grapes, I agree with BBW 100%
All this negative BS does nothing to encourage UBI to make more patches or subsims period! and the politics is seriously scaring modders off.
If the bitching continues then pretty soon there will be no more Silent hunters or supermods left to bitch about.

You reap what you sow

Vader 1 · 05-21-07, 06:21 PM

I appreciate all you and all the modders have done for....oh ya ....FREE...hello. If you can't be polite don't post that simple...You can disagree but be respectful...I just don't follow ragging on yourself and others that try to make the game better
Thanks again
Vader

Dowly · 05-21-07, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vader 1

I appreciate all you and all the modders have done for....oh ya ....FREE...hello. If you can't be polite don't post that simple...You can disagree but be respectful...I just don't follow ragging on yourself and others that try to make the game better
Thanks again
Vader

Sometimes it's hard to be polite if the other one keeps on attacking.

Samwolf · 05-21-07, 06:54 PM

I know I'll miss your informative posts, hopefully this won't be permanent.

Don't let the bastards wear you down

iambecomelife · 05-21-07, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Well this forum has become a nightmare lately
Not the SH3 mods but in general
Yeah I know SH4 sucks and they all hate it theres not another patch but its open season on anything SH3 and especially GWX

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=14

And thats in the SH4 forum
What are we not allowed to play SH4
Or comment on our own back ?

So I think a retirement is in order
Permanent ?
Maybe
Certainly more destructive than constructive in here at the moment

I have GWX 1.04 to work on and all this BS dont help

I hope you change your mind. ATM subsims aren't the most popular PC titles, and we need every decent modder & organizer we can get. I really don't want to see an already small modding community get even smaller (& lose a vital member at the same time). Again, for every coward who posts destructive criticism there are many dozens of people who quietly enjoy your work. Even if you don't hear from them as often as you should, please reconsider.

stabiz · 05-21-07, 09:32 PM

Bah, I hear you BigBoy.

This forum is going down the drain, and much of it is because of moderators lack of response to baiting IMO.

Jealous idiots all over the place.

Its almost sad to recall the Happy Times, when this was the best place on the web.

Reece · 05-21-07, 10:25 PM

Well I'm having a blast BBW, I just try to ignore all the mud slinging threads & get on with it!!!

Quote:

This forum is going down the drain

Try not to be baited, if we all ignore these threads (don't post) then they will die out, as long as someone bites, those fishing will continue.

The Onkel must be chewing his nails by now, mind you I haven't heard much from him of late, maybe he's on holidays!!

Gee, if all the good people left Subsim, what would be left!

Mush Martin · 05-22-07, 05:52 AM

I know that previously you have mentioned how two years of intense modding
have worn thin and worn out and I feel that is one thing. but to withdraw in
disgust that is another.

I as a modder am indebted to you as my primary teacher. (AEM,Uber,MBFL)
I as a player am indebted to you as one of the fulfillers of my dream.(River)

plus showing me my way around FF and photobucket and SS itself.

My naivte' doesnt seem to allow me to completely understand most of the
issues, I have remained under the impression that my mods as public domain
Freeware mods arent really owned by me. and that after release there
pretty much anybodies to go at. polite maybe to inform and ask the creator
but not illegal not to I think, and in that maybe im wrong I dont know but
I believe still, that even if I dont agree with where someone takes one of
my mods its still not anything I can do anything about. to my mind this
is the price of Free modding. and given the price of Fuel these days
I would like to preserve the Free part of Free modding. so I dont mind when someone takes the idea for auto evasive maneuvers and makes one of there own with deeper cuts and built in loops and properly painted buttons.

IMO the situations and the counter responses have a lot more to do with
egos and professional jealousy than they do with improving the mod communty , all sides.

I do mind when the landscape of the free environment is being altered for
the worse, I feel your withdrawal was somewhat inevitable under the circumstances but to reitterate your leaving in disgust is a bit of a
tragedy for the community at large.

I Feel that the recent trend of contentious withdrawals has up to this thread meant that subsim was losing talented modders.
I Feel that as of this thread subsim is starting to lose its virtues.

Regards BBW and thanks again for all
MM

Woof1701 · 05-22-07, 06:05 AM

Not you as well. It's bad enough that JCWolf decided to quit. Unfortunately there are always a few idiots around to spoil everything. However, I never found that the SH3 Mod Forum was affected very much by the ranting. The SH4 forums are worse anyway, and as was said before: those ranting idiots will be away sooner or later anyway because they get bored or feel ignored and misunderstood. I know of one example who has quit here and decided to harass the German UBI Forum instead.

Hope you change your mind. We need you here. Not only for GWX.

Best regards

05-21-07, 12:30 PM	#1
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Taking a break Well this forum has become a nightmare lately Not the SH3 mods but in general Yeah I know SH4 sucks and they all hate it theres not another patch but its open season on anything SH3 and especially GWX http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...5&postcount=14 And thats in the SH4 forum What are we not allowed to play SH4 Or comment on our own back ? So I think a retirement is in order Permanent ? Maybe Certainly more destructive than constructive in here at the moment I have GWX 1.04 to work on and all this BS dont help __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

05-21-07, 01:04 PM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The crew are being mustered over at The Den....a roll call will be taken. After all, time is needed to reprovision the ship. The question is....who will feed the rest of the GWX navy in the interim ? :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-21-07, 06:21 PM	#8
Vader 1 Engineer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 202 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I appreciate all you and all the modders have done for....oh ya ....FREE...hello. If you can't be polite don't post that simple...You can disagree but be respectful...I just don't follow ragging on yourself and others that try to make the game better Thanks again Vader __________________ Never Forget!

05-21-07, 06:54 PM	#10
Samwolf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Carolina, CSA Posts: 684 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I know I'll miss your informative posts, hopefully this won't be permanent. Don't let the bastards wear you down __________________ GWX 3, JSGME 2.3, Sh3 Commander 3.2 SH3 Gen 8.1, Water Stream for U-boats, LRT LITE 2.0, Lifeboats for SH3

05-21-07, 09:32 PM	#12
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Bah, I hear you BigBoy. This forum is going down the drain, and much of it is because of moderators lack of response to baiting IMO. Jealous idiots all over the place. Its almost sad to recall the Happy Times, when this was the best place on the web. __________________

05-21-07, 02:09 PM	#4
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	You shouldn't let peoples opinions dissuade from what you want to do. Everybody likes different things and what one does is not going to suite everyone - who cares. All the Modders have made the game what it is today. The only stumbling block lately seems to be UBI itself, but this is just heresay at the moment - we'll see.

05-21-07, 03:29 PM	#6
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't let a few idiots worry you and stand in the way of you doing what you enjoy and what you are good at,Sod'em, for every one fool who makes you think twice,think of the many who you've helped and the wonderful times you've given to people through your mods and with your work with GWX I find alot of carping comes from jealousy and ignorance,remember its easy to be destructive,any fool can do that,but it takes genuine talent to be creative and if thats a problem for them then tuff,sod'em

05-21-07, 04:53 PM	#7
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Yeah the mood in here has been getting ugly thanks to angry mobs and sour grapes, I agree with BBW 100% All this negative BS does nothing to encourage UBI to make more patches or subsims period! and the politics is seriously scaring modders off. If the bitching continues then pretty soon there will be no more Silent hunters or supermods left to bitch about. You reap what you sow

05-22-07, 05:52 AM	#14
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I know that previously you have mentioned how two years of intense modding have worn thin and worn out and I feel that is one thing. but to withdraw in disgust that is another. I as a modder am indebted to you as my primary teacher. (AEM,Uber,MBFL) I as a player am indebted to you as one of the fulfillers of my dream.(River) plus showing me my way around FF and photobucket and SS itself. My naivte' doesnt seem to allow me to completely understand most of the issues, I have remained under the impression that my mods as public domain Freeware mods arent really owned by me. and that after release there pretty much anybodies to go at. polite maybe to inform and ask the creator but not illegal not to I think, and in that maybe im wrong I dont know but I believe still, that even if I dont agree with where someone takes one of my mods its still not anything I can do anything about. to my mind this is the price of Free modding. and given the price of Fuel these days I would like to preserve the Free part of Free modding. so I dont mind when someone takes the idea for auto evasive maneuvers and makes one of there own with deeper cuts and built in loops and properly painted buttons. IMO the situations and the counter responses have a lot more to do with egos and professional jealousy than they do with improving the mod communty , all sides. I do mind when the landscape of the free environment is being altered for the worse, I feel your withdrawal was somewhat inevitable under the circumstances but to reitterate your leaving in disgust is a bit of a tragedy for the community at large. I Feel that the recent trend of contentious withdrawals has up to this thread meant that subsim was losing talented modders. I Feel that as of this thread subsim is starting to lose its virtues. Regards BBW and thanks again for all MM __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

05-22-07, 06:05 AM	#15
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Not you as well. It's bad enough that JCWolf decided to quit. Unfortunately there are always a few idiots around to spoil everything. However, I never found that the SH3 Mod Forum was affected very much by the ranting. The SH4 forums are worse anyway, and as was said before: those ranting idiots will be away sooner or later anyway because they get bored or feel ignored and misunderstood. I know of one example who has quit here and decided to harass the German UBI Forum instead. Hope you change your mind. We need you here. Not only for GWX. Best regards