Time Compression Queries.

TwistedAdonis · 05-05-07, 12:05 PM

Ahoy and Yaaaaar matey, and all that.

Is it just me or is time compression above 128X pointless (or annoyingly slow and jittery) when near other ships and submerged? Can one turn off the sonar so you can ignore contacts?

It just takes so darn long to get to an observation mission in Tokyo (4th mission, 4th time sent to bloody Tokyo to observe) because there are a few ships about. It's the one major bugbear (no pun intended) with this game for me.

I have an old AMD 64 3200, could this be it and do I thus have justification for upgrading my whole rig?

Yo ho ho, etc...

Twister

PS On an off topic point, I'd just like to thank you guys (the non-whiny ones) for all the info and Mod stuff. It's great and has broadened my enjoyment of this game. Ubisoft are lucky you're here. I think y'all deserve a group hug.

banjo · 05-05-07, 12:15 PM

I have an old 2.8 gig Dell but I routinely use 3078 compression with no prob. However, if there is a convoy around, or if it is raining, I have to back that down to 2048 or less to get smooth action. Also, I added a gig of ram so have 2 gigs total.

TwistedAdonis · 05-05-07, 12:46 PM

Thanks for that.

I got 3G RAM.

LZ_Baker · 05-05-07, 02:38 PM

So can you go above that when there are no contacts around? TC always goers slower near contacts/busy areas/land/convoys/task forces because the CPU has to do alot more calculations. I have an Athlon 64 x2 4200+ and can't go over x128 or x256 around task forces and stuff without it getting sluggish (<20fps). When nothing is around, I can get into the x4600 range before slowing down.

TwistedAdonis · 05-05-07, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LZ_Baker

So can you go above that when there are no contacts around?

Ta LZ. Yup. It's all butter in open ocean.

AVGWarhawk · 05-05-07, 07:00 PM

It is just one of those things, computer is generating ships and things, there is going to be some slow down. I find if I zoom in while on the map screen I can go to a higher TC and it is relatively smooth. I'm used to this as SH3 was much the same for me. I have a AMD 3200+, 1 gig RAM.

Snacko · 05-05-07, 07:38 PM

I find that it's best to watch the time that is displayed in the bottom left corner of the screen. As I increase compression I usually hit a point to which my computer cannot go any faster, even though the compression value still increases. For me its about 2048. Above that, the time does not go by any faster. So, I think it has to do with how fast your computer is.

CaptainHaplo · 05-06-07, 10:32 AM

Around shipping everything will be "choppy" the higher TC you run. From your post I noted one thing - turning "off" sonar. Unfortunately - there is no way to do this like you could in SH3 (remove the guys from the compartment). I despise having to constantly use the + key because my TC dropped to 8 over one of the 47 lifeboats now in the water that just popped over a wave where my lookouts can see it. This goes for sonar/radar or visual. There is a workaround - but its dangerous. You can modify the TC drop when a "new" contact is found - so it would only drop to say 64 or 128 from the map if thats what you wanted. The danger - is when your cruising along and a DD comes out of a fogbank - or when you think your at extreme range and you misjudge and get spotted - your damaged before you know it.

The choice is yours. If you want to mod the TC settings - its under Main.cfg in the data/cfg folder.

Good Hunting!
Captain Haplo

Mudrik · 05-06-07, 02:32 PM

Just a point of interest to those who like to use time compression. Open up "main" CFG in your gamesave (use notepad) and you can manually edit the time compression settings.

This is very useful if you want to be able to use max TC while on the crew management screen or on the bridge, places where usually TC is limited to 8x. You can also edit the TC that the game will drop to at certain events (radio reports etc).

greekfire · 05-06-07, 07:50 PM

Relating to this subject....last night returning from Japn on a patrol mission back to Pearl Harbor I found that I could only get up to around 2500 TC even though I could hit 7000+ compression at start of patrol. Also, there was absolutely no difference in actual time compression over 512 TC for me. In other words, 2500 took just as long at 512 which I have never experienced before.

My second problem was that I used only about 20% of my desiel to get to Japan but ended up using 75% to return home using the exact same path. It seems to be tied to the TC problems I was experiencing. It literally took me 3 hours sitting infront of game to get from Japan back to Pearl Harbor. What a nightmare. I would've given up the patrol but I had 131,000 tonage with CMOH potential. I got the medal when I finally got into port.

mookiemookie · 05-06-07, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedAdonis

Ahoy and Yaaaaar matey, and all that.

Is it just me or is time compression above 128X pointless (or annoyingly slow and jittery) when near other ships and submerged?

Funny, I've noticed this myself. I really don't go much higher than 2048x because it seems to be just as fast as 4096x and higher with the stutters and jitters.

ulyanov · 05-06-07, 09:54 PM

In boring sections (no land, no allies and no enemies anywhere nearby) I can crank it up to 4096 - looks like an hour per second. There's 3600 seconds per hour, so this sounds right.

If it's lagging at all, and the clock isn't moving smoothly, then it's about an hour per 3 seconds.
I wind back to 2048, and the clock moves smooth, and I still get an hour per 3 seconds, which is a little off-base, but it's smooth and responsive at least.

SteamWake · 05-06-07, 10:03 PM

The thing is with TC with contacts in range. Some get dropped and then picked up again.

Whey the get picked up again the TC is reset to 8.

This can be made even worse when you have surface radar.

Trust me my + key is about worn out. Its espically aggrivatting when in friendly waters.

Mudrik · 05-07-07, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

The thing is with TC with contacts in range. Some get dropped and then picked up again.

Whey the get picked up again the TC is reset to 8.

This can be made even worse when you have surface radar.

Trust me my + key is about worn out. Its espically aggrivatting when in friendly waters.

Have a quick look at my post above. If you want to stop this problem it is possible to edit the "main" config so that the TC won't be dropped to 8 when there are radar contacts. Hope this helps

05-05-07, 12:05 PM	#1
TwistedAdonis Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 26 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Time Compression Queries. Ahoy and Yaaaaar matey, and all that. Is it just me or is time compression above 128X pointless (or annoyingly slow and jittery) when near other ships and submerged? Can one turn off the sonar so you can ignore contacts? It just takes so darn long to get to an observation mission in Tokyo (4th mission, 4th time sent to bloody Tokyo to observe) because there are a few ships about. It's the one major bugbear (no pun intended) with this game for me. I have an old AMD 64 3200, could this be it and do I thus have justification for upgrading my whole rig? Yo ho ho, etc... Twister PS On an off topic point, I'd just like to thank you guys (the non-whiny ones) for all the info and Mod stuff. It's great and has broadened my enjoyment of this game. Ubisoft are lucky you're here. I think y'all deserve a group hug.

05-05-07, 02:38 PM	#4
LZ_Baker Engineer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 213 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	So can you go above that when there are no contacts around? TC always goers slower near contacts/busy areas/land/convoys/task forces because the CPU has to do alot more calculations. I have an Athlon 64 x2 4200+ and can't go over x128 or x256 around task forces and stuff without it getting sluggish (<20fps). When nothing is around, I can get into the x4600 range before slowing down. __________________

05-05-07, 07:00 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It is just one of those things, computer is generating ships and things, there is going to be some slow down. I find if I zoom in while on the map screen I can go to a higher TC and it is relatively smooth. I'm used to this as SH3 was much the same for me. I have a AMD 3200+, 1 gig RAM. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-05-07, 07:38 PM	#7
Snacko Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 212 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	I find that it's best to watch the time that is displayed in the bottom left corner of the screen. As I increase compression I usually hit a point to which my computer cannot go any faster, even though the compression value still increases. For me its about 2048. Above that, the time does not go by any faster. So, I think it has to do with how fast your computer is. __________________

05-05-07, 12:15 PM	#2
banjo Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 762 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I have an old 2.8 gig Dell but I routinely use 3078 compression with no prob. However, if there is a convoy around, or if it is raining, I have to back that down to 2048 or less to get smooth action. Also, I added a gig of ram so have 2 gigs total.

05-05-07, 12:46 PM	#3
TwistedAdonis Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 26 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Thanks for that. I got 3G RAM.

05-06-07, 10:32 AM	#8
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Around shipping everything will be "choppy" the higher TC you run. From your post I noted one thing - turning "off" sonar. Unfortunately - there is no way to do this like you could in SH3 (remove the guys from the compartment). I despise having to constantly use the + key because my TC dropped to 8 over one of the 47 lifeboats now in the water that just popped over a wave where my lookouts can see it. This goes for sonar/radar or visual. There is a workaround - but its dangerous. You can modify the TC drop when a "new" contact is found - so it would only drop to say 64 or 128 from the map if thats what you wanted. The danger - is when your cruising along and a DD comes out of a fogbank - or when you think your at extreme range and you misjudge and get spotted - your damaged before you know it. The choice is yours. If you want to mod the TC settings - its under Main.cfg in the data/cfg folder. Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

05-06-07, 02:32 PM	#9
Mudrik Gunner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: passing thermal layer, silent running Posts: 94 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just a point of interest to those who like to use time compression. Open up "main" CFG in your gamesave (use notepad) and you can manually edit the time compression settings. This is very useful if you want to be able to use max TC while on the crew management screen or on the bridge, places where usually TC is limited to 8x. You can also edit the TC that the game will drop to at certain events (radio reports etc).

05-06-07, 07:50 PM	#10
greekfire Bosun Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 68 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Relating to this subject....last night returning from Japn on a patrol mission back to Pearl Harbor I found that I could only get up to around 2500 TC even though I could hit 7000+ compression at start of patrol. Also, there was absolutely no difference in actual time compression over 512 TC for me. In other words, 2500 took just as long at 512 which I have never experienced before. My second problem was that I used only about 20% of my desiel to get to Japan but ended up using 75% to return home using the exact same path. It seems to be tied to the TC problems I was experiencing. It literally took me 3 hours sitting infront of game to get from Japan back to Pearl Harbor. What a nightmare. I would've given up the patrol but I had 131,000 tonage with CMOH potential. I got the medal when I finally got into port.

05-06-07, 09:54 PM	#12
ulyanov Swabbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In boring sections (no land, no allies and no enemies anywhere nearby) I can crank it up to 4096 - looks like an hour per second. There's 3600 seconds per hour, so this sounds right. If it's lagging at all, and the clock isn't moving smoothly, then it's about an hour per 3 seconds. I wind back to 2048, and the clock moves smooth, and I still get an hour per 3 seconds, which is a little off-base, but it's smooth and responsive at least.

05-06-07, 10:03 PM	#13
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The thing is with TC with contacts in range. Some get dropped and then picked up again. Whey the get picked up again the TC is reset to 8. This can be made even worse when you have surface radar. Trust me my + key is about worn out. Its espically aggrivatting when in friendly waters.