Are there any japanese subs in this game?

[Capt.Barbossa]

So far, I havn't see any of enemy subs in this game, not even in large enemy task force.
Are there any enemy subs?

If there are, how to locate and sink them?
Is it possible to locate a ship and fire torpedo with sonar only?

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Capt.Barbossa

Are there any enemy subs?

Yes, there is the Ko-Hyoteki Class Midget Submarine and the huge Sen Toku Class Submarine (aka the I-400), though I believe right now they're just static objects.

[Quillan]

There are some enemy subs in the game, but only in port. Neither SH3 nor SH4 handles AI submarines. As to firing a shot via sonar only, it's possible. You have to use the hydrophones plus active sonar to get precise points for plotting, calculate speed from this, approach, calculate an AOB and input all this data, and fire at the correct time. Without some type of visual information, you'll be firing blind at an unidentified target, so you won't know what nationality it is and could well hit a neutral or friendly. You don't know what depth to set, so you could have the torpedo run under a shallow draft vessel like a subchaser or hit the armored belt on a cruiser where it wouldn't do much. But it is possible to do.

[FoddaUK]

And don't forget that sub v sub combat was exceptionally rare. In fact, to date only one sub v sub submerged battle has ever resulted in a kill in all submarine history.

Well done HMS Venturer!

[Kant Schwimm]

Originally Posted by FoddaUK

And don't forget that sub v sub combat was exceptionally rare. In fact, to date only one sub v sub submerged battle has ever resulted in a kill in all submarine history.

Well done HMS Venturer!

Also the last submarine "kill" was by a British sub.

"HMS Conqueror (S48) returning home from the Falklands War in 1982 (seems to be a Jolly Roger on the tower, The British Naval tradition is to fly a Jolly Roger when returning to port when the sub made a kill at sea. The Jolly Roger would have "x"s for every kill they made.)."

Also the jolly rodger had a dagger sewn onto it refering to the cloak 'n' dagger op of dropping SBS troops on Sth Georgia.

Were not the only ones who get "drop an agent off here" mission



Well done HMS Conqueror.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by FoddaUK

And don't forget that sub v sub combat was exceptionally rare. In fact, to date only one sub v sub submerged battle has ever resulted in a kill in all submarine history.

Well done HMS Venturer!

As far as we know...

[Chock]

There are some rumours that suggest a limited submarine versus submarine war took place in 1968, although they are only rumours.

The speculation arose because of the large number of subs that were lost in that year:

US sub Scorpion, Israeli sub Dakar, French sub Minerve and a USSR Golf II class, were all lost within a short period of time, of course there could have been more and they may all have been just accidents, but it is the Silent Service, so maybe we'll never know if there is any truth in this rumour.

[Quillan]

Not to mention the speculation that the K-129 (that Golf II) may have collided with a US sub. The Swordfish put into harbor in Japan a couple of weeks later with a bent periscope, that supposedly happened by colliding with an icepack, but you never know. The US tried to raise the Soviet sub with the Glomar Explorer several years later, which was another complete mess.

[Hartmann]

Originally Posted by FoddaUK

And don't forget that sub v sub combat was exceptionally rare. In fact, to date only one sub v sub submerged battle has ever resulted in a kill in all submarine history.

Well done HMS Venturer!

combat was rare , but not submarines destroyed by other submarines,