Uncontrollable Dive

simsurfer · 04-08-07, 10:46 PM

This is the second time this has happened to me in this game, I dive and loose control of the boat till it gets crushed.

First time it happend I was in shallow water, ordered a routine dive to PD and the next thing I know I am at 150 feet, I repeat PD, nothing happens, order "S" Surface, nothing. Lastly I start pressing "E" still nothing and I die.

Second time planes were coming in and ordered Crash Dive. Same results.

Has anyone else had this happen?? I wasnt at battle stations, cant figure it out.

Strikor · 04-08-07, 11:14 PM

If you take even the slightest bit of damage from planes or depth charges you'll sink like a rock even if you repair everything you can. The damage control screen isn't set up to tell you these things, unfortunately.

simsurfer · 04-08-07, 11:27 PM

Interesting cuse the first time it happened I hadmt been attacked by planes but the second timeI had just been attacked and a bomb did land it looked close but my damage control screen did not show anything wrong???

nikimcbee · 04-09-07, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Strikor

If you take even the slightest bit of damage from planes or depth charges you'll sink like a rock even if you repair everything you can. The damage control screen isn't set up to tell you these things, unfortunately.

I have this happen every time I get damaged and I dive! I sink hundreds of feet in seconds. (NO, TIME COMPRESSION is not on) I dive to >1400 feet and sit on the bottom, till the boat floods. This bug is really ruining this for me.

partyboy · 04-09-07, 01:51 AM

I've had that happen after taking damage. The damage control screen will only say the AA/Deck guns are damaged. I run on the surface for hours with the damage control crew at work. There's no sign of any trauma anywhere on the boat.. I dive.. sink nose first like a stone.

Just another bug.

daft · 04-09-07, 02:13 AM

I've seen this too. However, I have taken hull damage, repaired it and still managed to control my dives afterwards. Once I even had two gaping holes (one just below the conning tower and one in the aft torpedo room) without loosing my ability to submerge, so it doesen't happen every time my boat is damaged.

partyboy · 04-09-07, 03:12 AM

Usually I can still blow tanks to surface, or blow tanks just to stabilize at my preferred depth, but it's not a state you really want to continue a patrol in. I'm fine with being damaged to the point where I can't safely submerge, but some sort of indication of that damage would be nice.

Lt commander lare · 04-09-07, 03:49 AM

hi neal this is happening to alot of us is there anyway you can inform the dev team that this is a critical thing that needs to be fixed with patch 1.2 with the mods out there this is the only problem im seeing so far except for crew deaths happening where you lose your entire crew almost

lt cmdr lare

kiwi_2005 · 04-09-07, 06:47 AM

And heres me thinking i must be hitting mines when i dive but all along it was a damn bug!

ParaB · 04-09-07, 07:10 AM

I think this only happens when the bulkheads got damaged previously. Normal flooding is no big deal, but once the bulkheads crack it's over with the diving fun, even if you manage to repair the initial damage.

Egan · 04-09-07, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParaB

I think this only happens when the bulkheads got damaged previously. Normal flooding is no big deal, but once the bulkheads crack it's over with the diving fun, even if you manage to repair the initial damage.

I've had bulkhead damage and been able to dive normally after repairing the damage. I've been getting down to 200+ feet without problems in my current patrol despite taking bad damage. Had a lot of fun with flooding too when I have only been able to control the descent by increasing my speed which was fun when I needed to rig for silent running.

ParaB · 04-09-07, 07:28 AM

I have to admit the whole damage/control system is still a bit of a mystery to me, even after a dozen patrols. I'm still not quite sure what's a bug and what's a feature...

kakemann · 04-09-07, 07:31 AM

I thought it was a feature. Seems like it occurs when there is hull damage - or?

digitizedsoul · 04-09-07, 01:05 PM

I have this problem a LOT as well and its a patrol killer for me.

There should not be anything that "kills you when you dive" that is NOT advertised in the damage control screen, period, it just shouldn't be that way.

If I am damaged to the point of no-diving, I need to know this. What if I saved a game after repairing damage? Load the game the next day and dive, BOOM death and no idea why because most likely I forgot I took damage (yesterday) and repaired it.

Needs to be fixed...

partyboy · 04-09-07, 02:24 PM

The problem is I've had it happen without any notification of serious damage. I get hit, "We're taking damage sir!", I check the screen, only the AA/Deck guns are damaged. But after spending hours on the surface with a damage control crew active, I dive and sink nose first. That doesn't seem fair (or realistic? surely I'd have some indication of that kind of damage.)

04-08-07, 10:46 PM	#1
simsurfer Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 342 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Uncontrollable Dive This is the second time this has happened to me in this game, I dive and loose control of the boat till it gets crushed. First time it happend I was in shallow water, ordered a routine dive to PD and the next thing I know I am at 150 feet, I repeat PD, nothing happens, order "S" Surface, nothing. Lastly I start pressing "E" still nothing and I die. Second time planes were coming in and ordered Crash Dive. Same results. Has anyone else had this happen?? I wasnt at battle stations, cant figure it out. __________________

04-08-07, 11:27 PM	#3
simsurfer Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 342 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Interesting cuse the first time it happened I hadmt been attacked by planes but the second timeI had just been attacked and a bomb did land it looked close but my damage control screen did not show anything wrong??? __________________

04-09-07, 02:13 AM	#6
daft Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 493 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I've seen this too. However, I have taken hull damage, repaired it and still managed to control my dives afterwards. Once I even had two gaping holes (one just below the conning tower and one in the aft torpedo room) without loosing my ability to submerge, so it doesen't happen every time my boat is damaged. __________________ And God said: \"Let there be Narrowband!\"

04-09-07, 06:47 AM	#9
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	And heres me thinking i must be hitting mines when i dive but all along it was a damn bug! __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

04-08-07, 11:14 PM	#2
Strikor Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 60 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	If you take even the slightest bit of damage from planes or depth charges you'll sink like a rock even if you repair everything you can. The damage control screen isn't set up to tell you these things, unfortunately.

04-09-07, 01:51 AM	#5
partyboy Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 106 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I've had that happen after taking damage. The damage control screen will only say the AA/Deck guns are damaged. I run on the surface for hours with the damage control crew at work. There's no sign of any trauma anywhere on the boat.. I dive.. sink nose first like a stone. Just another bug.

04-09-07, 03:12 AM	#7
partyboy Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 106 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Usually I can still blow tanks to surface, or blow tanks just to stabilize at my preferred depth, but it's not a state you really want to continue a patrol in. I'm fine with being damaged to the point where I can't safely submerge, but some sort of indication of that damage would be nice.

04-09-07, 03:49 AM	#8
Lt commander lare Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: southlyon michigan Posts: 897 Downloads: 781 Uploads: 35	hi neal this is happening to alot of us is there anyway you can inform the dev team that this is a critical thing that needs to be fixed with patch 1.2 with the mods out there this is the only problem im seeing so far except for crew deaths happening where you lose your entire crew almost lt cmdr lare

04-09-07, 07:10 AM	#10
ParaB Chief Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 327 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I think this only happens when the bulkheads got damaged previously. Normal flooding is no big deal, but once the bulkheads crack it's over with the diving fun, even if you manage to repair the initial damage.

04-09-07, 07:28 AM	#12
ParaB Chief Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 327 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I have to admit the whole damage/control system is still a bit of a mystery to me, even after a dozen patrols. I'm still not quite sure what's a bug and what's a feature...

04-09-07, 07:31 AM	#13
kakemann Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pretty close to the big german cruiser Blücher in Norway Posts: 568 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I thought it was a feature. Seems like it occurs when there is hull damage - or?

04-09-07, 01:05 PM	#14
digitizedsoul Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 125 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 1	I have this problem a LOT as well and its a patrol killer for me. There should not be anything that "kills you when you dive" that is NOT advertised in the damage control screen, period, it just shouldn't be that way. If I am damaged to the point of no-diving, I need to know this. What if I saved a game after repairing damage? Load the game the next day and dive, BOOM death and no idea why because most likely I forgot I took damage (yesterday) and repaired it. Needs to be fixed...

04-09-07, 02:24 PM	#15
partyboy Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 106 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	The problem is I've had it happen without any notification of serious damage. I get hit, "We're taking damage sir!", I check the screen, only the AA/Deck guns are damaged. But after spending hours on the surface with a damage control crew active, I dive and sink nose first. That doesn't seem fair (or realistic? surely I'd have some indication of that kind of damage.)