What cargo are tankers supposed to carry?

tater · 04-08-07, 10:03 AM

In the mission editor, I mean. The internal options are freight and fuel. Oddly, dry carriers can carry "oil" but tankers cannot. WTF is up with that?

Also, in the various campaign layers... NONE of the tankers carries fuel, all are set tot he default "frieght" (or whatever it is, I'm on a my laptop right now, no mission editor).

tater

akdavis · 04-08-07, 12:32 PM

I wonder if that explains why people are frustrated with the effects of their attacks on tankers. Perhaps the tankers are getting all the buoyancy bonuses of a liquid carrier, but none of the volatility of carrying av gas or other inflammable liquids?

CCIP · 04-08-07, 12:42 PM

I think this refers to deck cargo, in which case this is right - tankers wouldn't carry oil barrels as deck cargo.

AVGWarhawk · 04-08-07, 01:43 PM

The barrels are peanut oil for making french fries

akdavis · 04-08-07, 01:59 PM

The bigger problem is that based on a quick random sampling, all random merchant units and groups are set to type "generic_cargo" with internal load of "freight" and external "freight containers." Every single one I looked at was the same. I'm yet to find a "generic_tanker" entry in the merchants or convoys layers, but some tankers can be found in the campaign missions. Every one of these tankers (most are meant to represent fleet oilers in TFs) has their internal cargo set to "freight."

Just more evidence that the campaign system was a quick cut and paste that wasn't finished.

Shaffer4 · 04-08-07, 02:03 PM

Cork! everybody knows aboot the famous Japanese Cork Tankers....

tater · 04-08-07, 02:18 PM

I'm fine with the deck cargo, my point is that the INTERNAL cargo on every single tanker in the layers (merchant layers and convoys layers) has no "fuel" as the cargo. Ie: all tankers in game are "dry" right now.

Also, is there a difference between "fuel" and "oil."

Seems like there should be a distinction between stuff like avgas (BOOOM!) and bunker oil or even crude.

tater · 04-08-07, 02:28 PM

Man, I made a QM with 2x modern tanker. 1 was "dry" the other "wet." The dry one burned with 1xMk14, the wet one blew up.

I wonder if "fuel" and oil are different. I also had a merchant in that mission with deck cargo set to "oil." I hit the deck with HE, and I got that candle flame shaped, very bright persistant flame instead of the "normal" burning decks you usually see.

Perhaps the fuel was so catastrophic they didn't use it to avoid one-shot kills on tankers?

tater

Hartmann · 04-08-07, 05:55 PM

All the ship filled with Empty oil drums as a cargo :hmm:

04-08-07, 10:03 AM	#1
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	What cargo are tankers supposed to carry? In the mission editor, I mean. The internal options are freight and fuel. Oddly, dry carriers can carry "oil" but tankers cannot. WTF is up with that? Also, in the various campaign layers... NONE of the tankers carries fuel, all are set tot he default "frieght" (or whatever it is, I'm on a my laptop right now, no mission editor). tater

04-08-07, 12:32 PM	#2
akdavis Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 597 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I wonder if that explains why people are frustrated with the effects of their attacks on tankers. Perhaps the tankers are getting all the buoyancy bonuses of a liquid carrier, but none of the volatility of carrying av gas or other inflammable liquids? __________________ -AKD

04-08-07, 12:42 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I think this refers to deck cargo, in which case this is right - tankers wouldn't carry oil barrels as deck cargo. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-08-07, 01:43 PM	#4
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	The barrels are peanut oil for making french fries __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-08-07, 01:59 PM	#5
akdavis Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 597 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The bigger problem is that based on a quick random sampling, all random merchant units and groups are set to type "generic_cargo" with internal load of "freight" and external "freight containers." Every single one I looked at was the same. I'm yet to find a "generic_tanker" entry in the merchants or convoys layers, but some tankers can be found in the campaign missions. Every one of these tankers (most are meant to represent fleet oilers in TFs) has their internal cargo set to "freight." Just more evidence that the campaign system was a quick cut and paste that wasn't finished. __________________ -AKD

04-08-07, 02:03 PM	#6
Shaffer4 Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Walla Walla, Wa Posts: 223 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Cork! everybody knows aboot the famous Japanese Cork Tankers.... __________________

04-08-07, 02:18 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'm fine with the deck cargo, my point is that the INTERNAL cargo on every single tanker in the layers (merchant layers and convoys layers) has no "fuel" as the cargo. Ie: all tankers in game are "dry" right now. Also, is there a difference between "fuel" and "oil." Seems like there should be a distinction between stuff like avgas (BOOOM!) and bunker oil or even crude.

04-08-07, 02:28 PM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Man, I made a QM with 2x modern tanker. 1 was "dry" the other "wet." The dry one burned with 1xMk14, the wet one blew up. I wonder if "fuel" and oil are different. I also had a merchant in that mission with deck cargo set to "oil." I hit the deck with HE, and I got that candle flame shaped, very bright persistant flame instead of the "normal" burning decks you usually see. Perhaps the fuel was so catastrophic they didn't use it to avoid one-shot kills on tankers? tater

04-08-07, 05:55 PM	#9
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	All the ship filled with Empty oil drums as a cargo :hmm: __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor