Escort A.I. Discussion

CaptCrashDive · 03-26-07, 01:52 PM

I was wondering if we have come to a conclusion on the A.I. I have been hounded, harrassed, But only after I have made my run. The chances of being spotted on the way in seems a little slim. Once I was ran over by an escort and he didn't pick me up. I was under the layer and moving at 2kts, but if they go over top, shouldn't they spot you maybe? Afterwards though I have spoofed DDs and gotten out clean, but I have also been chased, had them DC my decoy, then pick me up again, DC me, Hound me untill my batteries have been nearly gone. I think if the DC range was lowered, and the sensor cones were extended a little bit, not much, the A.I. would be spot on. Plus, play without external views, much much harder and more tense that way.

Hans Schultz · 03-26-07, 01:56 PM

I am finding that the AI escorts are too good no matter what i do, silent running, below the thermal layer they are dropping depth charges on me like they were laser guided bombs.

AVGWarhawk · 03-26-07, 02:27 PM

I believe the escort is not overly aggressive. They seem to be good as is.

Drifter9 · 03-26-07, 02:49 PM

Can those of you who find the escort AI to be aggressive and fun tell me what your difficulty settings are?

AVGWarhawk · 03-26-07, 02:56 PM

I have it set at hard. The find me and circle dropping DC. I had one chase me at night. It gave up and went back to the convoy. I attempted to sneak in again. It must have been on alert because it spotted me again. The escort in some of the convoys I have found are not that aggressive.

Ducimus · 03-26-07, 03:04 PM

Im pretty sure not much has changed since i wrote this:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377

I know it says , "GWX's AI" but it's also really an explanation on how the AI works in SH3. I dont expect SH4 will be much different excepting with the addition of thermal layers.

As to adjusting the AI (something which i tend to do), im not gonna bother until i get more ingame experience with it to see if its too good or too dumb. I suspect it is probably too dumb, but im giving it a chance first.

9th_cow · 03-26-07, 03:10 PM

i dont get them, they use laser guided anti sub weapons to nail me under the thermal layer.
and just before i surfaced next to one, and shot the hell out of it, and it never did a damn thing.

surely somethings not working properly here ?

malkuth74 · 03-26-07, 03:30 PM

I find once you go below thermal layer they become stupid. I have witnessed two seperate attacks on convoys were the whole convoy will stop with the destroyers. The destroyers will look, then stop. (ripe for a torp at this point) if more then one destroyer the others will take off again with the Convoy and one will stay behind and wait for me to move.

Not bad, but it bugs me that they stop, and the whole convoy stops with them. The convoy should keep moving while maybe 2 out of 3 destroyers try to find me.

My 2nd convoy attack They caught me before I even had chance to attack. i misjudged my distance (still not use to the Yards thing, SHIII was bad influence). And I was waiting in front of the convoy. The lead destroyer picked me up right away and pounded the hell out of me. I escaped after going under the TL.

FAdmiral · 03-26-07, 06:54 PM

Check my post in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109174

JIM

03-26-07, 01:52 PM	#1
CaptCrashDive Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pensacola Fl Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Escort A.I. Discussion I was wondering if we have come to a conclusion on the A.I. I have been hounded, harrassed, But only after I have made my run. The chances of being spotted on the way in seems a little slim. Once I was ran over by an escort and he didn't pick me up. I was under the layer and moving at 2kts, but if they go over top, shouldn't they spot you maybe? Afterwards though I have spoofed DDs and gotten out clean, but I have also been chased, had them DC my decoy, then pick me up again, DC me, Hound me untill my batteries have been nearly gone. I think if the DC range was lowered, and the sensor cones were extended a little bit, not much, the A.I. would be spot on. Plus, play without external views, much much harder and more tense that way.

03-26-07, 02:27 PM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I believe the escort is not overly aggressive. They seem to be good as is. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-26-07, 02:56 PM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I have it set at hard. The find me and circle dropping DC. I had one chase me at night. It gave up and went back to the convoy. I attempted to sneak in again. It must have been on alert because it spotted me again. The escort in some of the convoys I have found are not that aggressive. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-26-07, 03:30 PM	#8
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I find once you go below thermal layer they become stupid. I have witnessed two seperate attacks on convoys were the whole convoy will stop with the destroyers. The destroyers will look, then stop. (ripe for a torp at this point) if more then one destroyer the others will take off again with the Convoy and one will stay behind and wait for me to move. Not bad, but it bugs me that they stop, and the whole convoy stops with them. The convoy should keep moving while maybe 2 out of 3 destroyers try to find me. My 2nd convoy attack They caught me before I even had chance to attack. i misjudged my distance (still not use to the Yards thing, SHIII was bad influence). And I was waiting in front of the convoy. The lead destroyer picked me up right away and pounded the hell out of me. I escaped after going under the TL. __________________

03-26-07, 06:54 PM	#9
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Check my post in this thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=109174 JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

03-26-07, 01:56 PM	#2
Hans Schultz Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 150 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I am finding that the AI escorts are too good no matter what i do, silent running, below the thermal layer they are dropping depth charges on me like they were laser guided bombs.

03-26-07, 02:49 PM	#4
Drifter9 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 12 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Can those of you who find the escort AI to be aggressive and fun tell me what your difficulty settings are?

03-26-07, 03:04 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Im pretty sure not much has changed since i wrote this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=104377 I know it says , "GWX's AI" but it's also really an explanation on how the AI works in SH3. I dont expect SH4 will be much different excepting with the addition of thermal layers. As to adjusting the AI (something which i tend to do), im not gonna bother until i get more ingame experience with it to see if its too good or too dumb. I suspect it is probably too dumb, but im giving it a chance first.

03-26-07, 03:10 PM	#7
9th_cow Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 182 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	i dont get them, they use laser guided anti sub weapons to nail me under the thermal layer. and just before i surfaced next to one, and shot the hell out of it, and it never did a damn thing. surely somethings not working properly here ?