Britain gets rid of Cluster Bombs

Bort · 03-20-07, 02:49 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6472371.stm

I can't help but think that this is a politically popular move that will get soldiers killed in the future. There are some situations (i.e. massive amounts of enemy armor approaching an allied position) where nothing else, short of a nuke, will fit the bill. I'm just as horrified as anyone by the injuries CBU's cause to the civilian population, but this seems extreme and unwise.

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-07, 02:51 PM

Stupid idea. After many years with Falcon 4... WHo's bright idea (insert sarcasm here) is this anyway?

-S

Kapitan_Phillips · 03-20-07, 02:58 PM

They shouldnt be getting rid of the cluster bomb, just the people who order them dropped where collateral civilian casualties are obvious.

STEED · 03-20-07, 03:04 PM

This country should try and get rid of PC Madness.

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-07, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

This country should try and get rid of PC Madness.

No no no no - You should get rid of all bombs, missiles, guns, any sort of weapons system since technically, they could offend somebody.

-S

STEED · 03-20-07, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by STEED

This country should try and get rid of PC Madness.

No no no no - You should get rid of all bombs, missiles, guns, any sort of weapons system since technically, they could offend somebody.

-S

That's sarcastic humour for you. :rotfl:

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-07, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

That's sarcastic humour for you. :rotfl:

You laugh, but I'm being serious here - someone might even get hurt with these systems!

-S

ASWnut101 · 03-20-07, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by STEED

This country should try and get rid of PC Madness.

No no no no - You should get rid of all bombs, missiles, guns, any sort of weapons system since technically, they could offend somebody.

-S

I think that most of them would do a little more than "offend" somebody...

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SUBMAN1 · 03-20-07, 03:28 PM

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I think that most of them would do a little more than "offend" somebody...

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See my previous post! :p

Tchocky · 03-20-07, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

They shouldnt be getting rid of the cluster bomb, just the people who order them dropped where collateral civilian casualties are obvious.

qft

That hoary "guns dont kill people, people kill people" works here.

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-07, 04:32 PM

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guns dont kill people, people kill people

Ain't that the truth! You can use a baseball bat to accomplish the same job!

-S

Torpedo Fodder · 03-20-07, 04:36 PM

Seems some people here have reading comprehension problems: If you read the article carefully, you'll note that Britain is not getting rid of all it's cluster bombs, just the ones that lack self-destruct timers, a fact that (as the article also notes) the anti-landmine peacenik crowd is not happy about, since they want all cluster bombs banned.

SUBMAN1 · 03-20-07, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Torpedo Fodder

Seems some people here have reading comprehension problems: If you read the article carefully, you'll note that Britain is not getting rid of all it's cluster bombs, just the ones that lack self-destruct timers, a fact that (as the article also notes) the anti-landmine peacenik crowd is not happy about, since they want all cluster bombs banned.

At least one of us looks past the headline - Britain bans 'dumb' cluster bombs

I sure didn't

-S

bookworm_020 · 03-20-07, 05:30 PM

Australia removed custer bombs from their stockpile awhile back. It also came up during the 2003 Gulf War where Australia refused to escort American aircraft if they were carrying cluster bombs. Australia was a member of the anit-mine pact agreement.

I understand the usefulness of the bombs, and agree with what Britain is doing by getting rid of the dumb cluster weapons. Haveing timers to detonate leftover cluster orderance is smart as it reduces the risk to civilians as well as your own troop who will most likley try and occupy the place where you droped the weapons.

Your going to have duds despite the best effots of all. I just hope the weapons never have to be used for real.

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 03-20-07, 07:08 PM

I wonder how well this "smart" crap is gonna even work. If the bomblet had really been working, it should have exploded before it hit the ground. The ones that did not have malfunctioning detonators, so how are they going to detonate themselves after a set time...

03-20-07, 02:49 PM	#1
Bort Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Studying in Atlanta Posts: 919 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Britain gets rid of Cluster Bombs http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6472371.stm I can't help but think that this is a politically popular move that will get soldiers killed in the future. There are some situations (i.e. massive amounts of enemy armor approaching an allied position) where nothing else, short of a nuke, will fit the bill. I'm just as horrified as anyone by the injuries CBU's cause to the civilian population, but this seems extreme and unwise. __________________ GT Aerospace

03-20-07, 02:51 PM	#2
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Stupid idea. After many years with Falcon 4... WHo's bright idea (insert sarcasm here) is this anyway? -S __________________

03-20-07, 02:58 PM	#3
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	They shouldnt be getting rid of the cluster bomb, just the people who order them dropped where collateral civilian casualties are obvious. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

03-20-07, 03:04 PM	#4
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	This country should try and get rid of PC Madness. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

03-20-07, 04:36 PM	#12
Torpedo Fodder Ensign Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Whitby, Ontario Posts: 234 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Seems some people here have reading comprehension problems: If you read the article carefully, you'll note that Britain is not getting rid of all it's cluster bombs, just the ones that lack self-destruct timers, a fact that (as the article also notes) the anti-landmine peacenik crowd is not happy about, since they want all cluster bombs banned. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war. "Those who turn their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't"

03-20-07, 05:30 PM	#14
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Australia removed custer bombs from their stockpile awhile back. It also came up during the 2003 Gulf War where Australia refused to escort American aircraft if they were carrying cluster bombs. Australia was a member of the anit-mine pact agreement. I understand the usefulness of the bombs, and agree with what Britain is doing by getting rid of the dumb cluster weapons. Haveing timers to detonate leftover cluster orderance is smart as it reduces the risk to civilians as well as your own troop who will most likley try and occupy the place where you droped the weapons. Your going to have duds despite the best effots of all. I just hope the weapons never have to be used for real. __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

03-20-07, 07:08 PM	#15
Kazuaki Shimazaki II Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I wonder how well this "smart" crap is gonna even work. If the bomblet had really been working, it should have exploded before it hit the ground. The ones that did not have malfunctioning detonators, so how are they going to detonate themselves after a set time...