Ubi, Pirates and Release Dates

CCIP · 03-17-07, 11:18 PM

I hate to join the ranks of the ranters, but here goes one:

1) Pirates -

Way to leak a game. I should hope that anyone who even thinks of going this route thinks again. Whatever the case, we all HAVE to support the developers. This, like it or not, is a matter of life-and-death to our hobby - if we can't support commercial subsims, we can kiss them goodbye. If anyone here dares to say non-commercial subsims are the way to go - I'll give them a pat on the back, and ask them to see their finished product - and don't get me wrong, but it's just a fact that we NEED true, original commercial development in our hobby right now.

2) Ubi -

Great way to let the pirates get ahead of you. For shame, you're a company with millions of dollars in budget, and you can't afford to set up even an online distro system, TWO WEEKS after the game has gone gold - and after the 'scene' beat you to it.
I consider myself a very dissatisfied customer. Though I will not cancel my order, because I'm honorable enough to have two legit game copies, I must say I am seriously disappointed - I paid $49.99 US, and I can't even get a game I've been waiting for more than a year, any earlier than the pirate scambags.

3) Release date confusion -

How can a game be shipping in one country, while others who paid to pre-order in others can't even get it online or mailed to them in time?

I ask that everyone here who's pre-ordered from Ubisoft PLEASE write these guys a few emails expressing their dissatisfaction. As customers, you have to speak out for yourselves.

You will never see me whining about the game - I'll post bug reports and errors in proper threads, and that'll be the end of it. But this is where I draw the line.

Again,

CCIP · 03-17-07, 11:30 PM

Err, to that I'd like to add a request - could anyone please point me to a Ubisoft customer contact email?

I have a few (politely written and to-the-point) words for them - and I'm irked it's impossible to even find a way to send them to the company's complaint department (and they'd better have it).

dean_acheson · 03-17-07, 11:43 PM

Hear hear!!!

I totally agree. I purchased an online copy and the freaking big dollar collector's edition....

So here I am, unable to d/l it, it is the weekend, and people are playing it.

I am really piqued.

kiwi_2005 · 03-17-07, 11:57 PM

I pre-ordered from the local pc store, Collectors edition and im expecting i wont be playing till either late this week or early next.

Whens it coming out 21st of this month isn't it? So i figure i will have it either 23rd (yeah right) or definately next week.

We usually get our games same time as Aussie gamers.

I hope.

Meco · 03-18-07, 12:23 AM

I put a deposit at the gaming store. His computer screen indicated it would be in on Friday the 23rd.. Im in no rush. Ill pay the full price for both copies. Mine and the one Im buying for a friend.

Personaly, I don't care what pirates do. My copies are clean and to me thats all that matters. I did my part for the devs and I think most others will too. In a week from now we will all be having a great time with SHIV and days like today will be a distant memory.

What can ya do. It's a global ditributed product. There is bound to be variation in delivery.

I see and understand your point completely CCIP.

But I shudder at the alternative. Remember the SF days with SHIII. I'm thinking it coulda been much worse than a few days wait while others play it by theft. In every new game release there are bugs, items that dont meet expectations, items that surpass them, pirates, hours of fun, minutes of frustration, time goes too fast, it takes too long.

Such is life. It's too short. let em have their moment of evil. let the devs figure out how to prevent it next time. Yesterday is over, today is here, and tomorow is another day.

stabiz · 03-18-07, 12:30 AM

I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi. (This time)

Oh, and I have bought the game, and not received it either.

Safe-Keeper · 03-18-07, 01:05 AM

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I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi.

Exactly. Just like nearly all stores experience shoplifting.

CCIP · 03-18-07, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

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I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi.

Exactly. Just like nearly all stores experience shoplifting.

Mind you, the release differences are only my complaint. When it's a question of logistics, it's fine by me.

However, when the game's been gold for a while and there's a download service, I'm REALLY not seeing the justification for it. Sure, I know it'll be as it has to be... but I can be unhappy about it and complain. I think it's unfair and causeless - if the pirates can have it on their torrent sites, I don't see how Ubi can't logically see what's holding Ubi's supposedly-established pay-per-download system

geetrue · 03-18-07, 01:24 AM

Your jumping to conclusions about pirates ...

Lots of them out there, true ... but shipshape showed everyone that he didn't pirate anything ... He didn't even know how to post a pic.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=107763&page=2

Settle down and think it out ... for all we know he owns a software store or has a friend that works at one. Shipshape is just the first of many yet to come.

We have to adjust to the situation of just one or two so far ...

Just a few more days, don't say anything you will regret later ...

Play it and patch it ... everything will work out.

veterans of SHII and SHIII we have another one on our hands ...

It's kind of funny if you stop and think about it ...

DJSatane · 03-18-07, 09:20 AM

Don't worry about the pirates, they still wont be able to play multiplayer without their own cdkey which you only get if you buy the game.

Although I am dissapointed the game is already out in Europe

Here in new york city I have few more days to wait it seems...

Dowly · 03-18-07, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSatane

Don't worry about the pirates, they still wont be able to play multiplayer without their own cdkey which you only get if you buy the game.

Although I am dissapointed the game is already out in Europe

Here in new york city I have few more days to wait it seems...

That isnt entirely true. It really depends of the game. Games that are solely for MP are protected very well, but a game like Silent Hunter, where the main focus is the singleplay career, <edited by Drebbel: no dicussion about "walk the plank topics">

Sucks, but nothing you can do about it.

Spray · 03-18-07, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

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Originally Posted by DJSatane

Don't worry about the pirates, they still wont be able to play multiplayer without their own cdkey which you only get if you buy the game.

Although I am dissapointed the game is already out in Europe

Here in new york city I have few more days to wait it seems...

That isnt entirely true. It really depends of the game. Games that are solely for MP are protected very well, but a game like Silent Hunter, where the main focus is the singleplay career, singleplay career, <edited by Drebbel: no dicussion about "walk the plank topics">

Sucks, but nothing you can do about it.

What I thought UBI would smarten up and add in CD Key protection for multiplay. That sucks majorly.

DJSatane · 03-18-07, 09:47 AM

Actually with SH4 you do need a cd-key that comes with either manual or inside dvd box and its a unique key that you will use along with your ubi account to be able to play online. SH3 didnt need this but with 4 every person that buys will have unique key. This is good because for those that want to play online have to buy the game

CruiseTorpedo · 03-18-07, 09:57 AM

I dont see a problem, this is a game after all! It's not a military op that must be pulled off correctly or people die. Ubi tried to make it fair by delaying in the US an extra week so everyone can have at it about the same time. I'd loooove to be playing it right now as I'm on vacation but it's fine, the game will be here when I get back (leaving next tuesday for a week).

flintlock · 03-18-07, 10:08 AM

The pirated leak is unfortunate, though definitely not surprising. I believe this remains a significant reason why PC sales continue to decline and more and more developers/publishers are choosing to focus their efforts and resources on consoles. As usual, the thieves (I prefer this over pirates) get the game before paying customers and without copy protection. What's wrong with this picture?

03-17-07, 11:18 PM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Ubi, Pirates and Release Dates I hate to join the ranks of the ranters, but here goes one: 1) Pirates - Way to leak a game. I should hope that anyone who even thinks of going this route thinks again. Whatever the case, we all HAVE to support the developers. This, like it or not, is a matter of life-and-death to our hobby - if we can't support commercial subsims, we can kiss them goodbye. If anyone here dares to say non-commercial subsims are the way to go - I'll give them a pat on the back, and ask them to see their finished product - and don't get me wrong, but it's just a fact that we NEED true, original commercial development in our hobby right now. 2) Ubi - Great way to let the pirates get ahead of you. For shame, you're a company with millions of dollars in budget, and you can't afford to set up even an online distro system, TWO WEEKS after the game has gone gold - and after the 'scene' beat you to it. I consider myself a very dissatisfied customer. Though I will not cancel my order, because I'm honorable enough to have two legit game copies, I must say I am seriously disappointed - I paid $49.99 US, and I can't even get a game I've been waiting for more than a year, any earlier than the pirate scambags. 3) Release date confusion - How can a game be shipping in one country, while others who paid to pre-order in others can't even get it online or mailed to them in time? I ask that everyone here who's pre-ordered from Ubisoft PLEASE write these guys a few emails expressing their dissatisfaction. As customers, you have to speak out for yourselves. You will never see me whining about the game - I'll post bug reports and errors in proper threads, and that'll be the end of it. But this is where I draw the line. Again, __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-17-07, 11:30 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Err, to that I'd like to add a request - could anyone please point me to a Ubisoft customer contact email? I have a few (politely written and to-the-point) words for them - and I'm irked it's impossible to even find a way to send them to the company's complaint department (and they'd better have it). __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-17-07, 11:57 PM	#4
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	I pre-ordered from the local pc store, Collectors edition and im expecting i wont be playing till either late this week or early next. Whens it coming out 21st of this month isn't it? So i figure i will have it either 23rd (yeah right) or definately next week. We usually get our games same time as Aussie gamers. I hope. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

03-18-07, 12:30 AM	#6
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I dont see where this is coming from, this happens with ALL GAMES. Sure it sucks, but it has nothing to do with Ubi. (This time) Oh, and I have bought the game, and not received it either. __________________

03-18-07, 01:24 AM	#9
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Your jumping to conclusions about pirates ... Lots of them out there, true ... but shipshape showed everyone that he didn't pirate anything ... He didn't even know how to post a pic. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=107763&page=2 Settle down and think it out ... for all we know he owns a software store or has a friend that works at one. Shipshape is just the first of many yet to come. We have to adjust to the situation of just one or two so far ... Just a few more days, don't say anything you will regret later ... Play it and patch it ... everything will work out. veterans of SHII and SHIII we have another one on our hands ... It's kind of funny if you stop and think about it ... __________________

03-17-07, 11:43 PM	#3
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Hear hear!!! I totally agree. I purchased an online copy and the freaking big dollar collector's edition.... So here I am, unable to d/l it, it is the weekend, and people are playing it. I am really piqued.

03-18-07, 12:23 AM	#5
Meco Seaman Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I put a deposit at the gaming store. His computer screen indicated it would be in on Friday the 23rd.. Im in no rush. Ill pay the full price for both copies. Mine and the one Im buying for a friend. Personaly, I don't care what pirates do. My copies are clean and to me thats all that matters. I did my part for the devs and I think most others will too. In a week from now we will all be having a great time with SHIV and days like today will be a distant memory. What can ya do. It's a global ditributed product. There is bound to be variation in delivery. I see and understand your point completely CCIP. But I shudder at the alternative. Remember the SF days with SHIII. I'm thinking it coulda been much worse than a few days wait while others play it by theft. In every new game release there are bugs, items that dont meet expectations, items that surpass them, pirates, hours of fun, minutes of frustration, time goes too fast, it takes too long. Such is life. It's too short. let em have their moment of evil. let the devs figure out how to prevent it next time. Yesterday is over, today is here, and tomorow is another day.

03-18-07, 09:20 AM	#10
DJSatane Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 140 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Don't worry about the pirates, they still wont be able to play multiplayer without their own cdkey which you only get if you buy the game. Although I am dissapointed the game is already out in Europe Here in new york city I have few more days to wait it seems... __________________ DJSatane - https://twitter.com/DJSatane

03-18-07, 09:47 AM	#13
DJSatane Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 140 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Actually with SH4 you do need a cd-key that comes with either manual or inside dvd box and its a unique key that you will use along with your ubi account to be able to play online. SH3 didnt need this but with 4 every person that buys will have unique key. This is good because for those that want to play online have to buy the game __________________ DJSatane - https://twitter.com/DJSatane

03-18-07, 09:57 AM	#14
CruiseTorpedo Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 112 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I dont see a problem, this is a game after all! It's not a military op that must be pulled off correctly or people die. Ubi tried to make it fair by delaying in the US an extra week so everyone can have at it about the same time. I'd loooove to be playing it right now as I'm on vacation but it's fine, the game will be here when I get back (leaving next tuesday for a week).

03-18-07, 10:08 AM	#15
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The pirated leak is unfortunate, though definitely not surprising. I believe this remains a significant reason why PC sales continue to decline and more and more developers/publishers are choosing to focus their efforts and resources on consoles. As usual, the thieves (I prefer this over pirates) get the game before paying customers and without copy protection. What's wrong with this picture?