And here is the news

[STEED]

BONG

England

CCTV officer off frontline duties
A police officer shown in leaked CCTV footage punching a woman outside a nightclub has been withdrawn from public duty.

BONG

America

'Love triangle' astronaut sacked
The US astronaut who became involved in a love triangle that led to her being charged with attempted kidnapping has been fired by Nasa.

BONG

Germany

Couple stand by forbidden love

They share a small flat in an east German tower block on the outskirts of the city. It looks like an ordinary family scene, but Patrick is Susan's brother and they are lovers. "Many people see it as a crime, but we've done nothing wrong," said Patrick, an unemployed locksmith.

[AJ!]

STEEDS Always on the ball

That story from germany doesnt seem justifiable..... I mean fair enough its alittle odd falling in love with a sibling but what right do they have to say its forbidden and try to stop them?

[geetrue]

Originally Posted by STEED

Germany

Precept upon precept, rule upon rule ... somewhere back in time someone figured out that their children
had too many toes and then it dawned on them why ...

Brother's and sister's are a no, no ... even cousins can cause problems in the blood line ...
fear probably keeps them from loving someone else.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by geetrue

Precept upon precept, rule upon rule ... somewhere back in time someone figured out that their children
had too many toes and then it dawned on them why ...

Brother's and sister's are a no, no ... even cousins can cause problems in the blood line ...
fear probably keeps them from loving someone else.

Yup, it is, and should be, illegal. There is plenty of evidence of the problems it causes in children born to such relaionships.

One intresting thing to note is that everyone in Europe is quite closely related anyway.
There is a simple way of showing this:
You have 2 parents. = 2 people
Your parents have 2 parents each. = 4 people
They have 2 parents each. = 8 people
They have 2 parents each. = 16 people

If we go back 2000 years we cover around 80 generations that means you should have:
2,417,851,639,229,258,349,412,352 people in your 80th generation

That's:
Two-septillion, four hundred and seventeen sexillion, eight-hundred and fifty-one quintillion, six-hundred and thirty-nine quadrillion, two-hundred and twenty-nine trillion, two-hundred and fifty-eight billion, three-hundred and forty-nine million, four-hundred and twelve thousand, three hundred and fifty-two
people in your 80th generation.

Obviously there where not that many people in the world in the year 0CE.
This number can only be explained by the fact that the calculation does not take in-breeding into account. Its possible to workout how much inbreeding happens in a population. The answer is: A Lot! Most populations have 5-6deg of seperation between any two people being related, before motorised transport this was far, far less.

[Skybird]

That german couple has already four kids, two of them have mental and physical handicaps. Which illustrates perfectly science's statement that incest parent's kids have a 50% chance of being born with abnormalities or being mentally retarded. So said a science report on the two that was broadcasted by a news magazine.

and having seen and heared the two on TV, I consider it possible that the parents themselves are already ticking at a suspicious frequency, too. I saw the women and heared her and observed her and just thought "Such a human being can't be a reality."

Politicians from the Green, PDS and SPD already signalled that they find it reasonable that incest should be legalized. Now that is the final BANG after the Bangs by steed, I assume. Their reason: it is discrimination, it means the state's making up our minds for us (that is what the dictionary says on "Bevormundung"), and other European countries have alreaedy given up the prohibition of incest, too. When others do something, it automatically must be right and reasonable.

Maybe the lack of such prohibitions is the reason why the EU is being managed the way it is managed.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Letum

That's:
Two-septillion, four hundred and seventeen sexillion, eight-hundred and fifty-one quintillion, six-hundred and thirty-nine quadrillion, two-hundred and twenty-nine trillion, two-hundred and fifty-eight billion, three-hundred and forty-nine million, four-hundred and twelve thousand, three hundred and fifty-two
people in your 80th generation.

You're sure?

[TteFAboB]

All prohibiting is prohibited.

[Oberon]

"This is the two o' clock news, and this is STEED reading it..."

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by AJ!

STEEDS Always on the ball

That story from germany doesnt seem justifiable..... I mean fair enough its alittle odd falling in love with a sibling but what right do they have to say its forbidden and try to stop them?

If you understand genetics, you will begin to figure out why it is a bad idea. This idea comes not only from the idea that it is repulsive to a normal person, but also from the possible offspring it could create. You must think in three's in a situation like this. When you go against nature, you go against the grain of what is healthy. It will always be like that.

-S

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You're sure?

Depends, the Americans use a diffrent way of nameing numbers than the English. In the UK we use the origional Latin&Greek system. In America they made it up as they went along.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

If you understand genetics, you will begin to figure out why it is a bad idea. This idea comes not only from the idea that it is repulsive to a normal person, but also from the possible offspring it could create. You must think in three's in a situation like this. When you go against nature, you go against the grain of what is healthy. It will always be like that.

-S

I agree, but here is something to think about:

If we ban incest because it can produce retarded children, do we ban normal parents who have genetic conditions from having children because their children might have that condition?

If not; what is the difference between the two?
If so; how do we enforce it if there is a "accidental" pregnancy? (not to mention the huge moral minefield here).