future modding of SH4

03-04-07, 09:21 AM

I know this is premature but since I have no programming skills are the fantastic modders of SH3 going to become as interested in buying, playing and modding SH4? I think that all the modders are fantastic people to give up their time and energy to make all the good games better. I would not have stuck with SH3 without all the fantastice mods made by the community. So I guess my question is to Grey Wolves and everyone else; will you do a bangup job of making SH4 as good as SH3. Thanks in advance BwChaney

JSF · 03-04-07, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bwchaney

I know this is premature but since I have no programming skills are the fantastic modders of SH3 going to become as interested in buying, playing and modding SH4? I think that all the modders are fantastic people to give up their time and energy to make all the good games better. I would not have stuck with SH3 without all the fantastice mods made by the community. So I guess my question is to Grey Wolves and everyone else; will you do a bangup job of making SH4 as good as SH3. Thanks in advance BwChaney

They won't be able to help themselves....With some of the talent in this forum...they will have this game dissected sooooo fast you'll wonder how they had time for anything else in thier lives.

stabiz · 03-04-07, 10:07 AM

We wont have all the Grey Wolves, it seems, but some.

Safe-Keeper · 03-04-07, 12:14 PM

I really want to start a Norwegian Operations 2 mod. But then there'd first have to be some Atlantic Theatre mod for me to build upon, and it might mean discarding all my work so far on Norwegian Operations, in which case I'll be far more reluctant. We'll see.

Gildor · 03-04-07, 01:33 PM

Could U-boats be added as a unit and North Atlantic Ops be modded?

Sailor Steve · 03-04-07, 03:28 PM

I thought SH3 would bring back all the wonderful guys who modded SH2 so well. Didn't happen. Instead, we got a whole oceanfull of new guys who were great. Maybe SH4 will bring most of them back, maybe we'll see talented folks we've never seen before who'll get the job done. Probably some of both.

Boris · 03-04-07, 05:56 PM

Kpt. Lehmann has already unofficially said he won't be leading an SH4 modding effort equivalent to GWX, and I think one or two other members of the team are less than enthusiastic about the Pacific theatre.

But I'll certainly be doing something, and least a few other grey wolves may start modding for SH4. There's nothing to be worried about in terms of modders willing to mod SH4. No doubt things will start off with small mods again, which will form the building blocks for the first supermods.

ReallyDedPoet · 03-04-07, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris

Kpt. Lehmann has already unofficially said he won't be leading an SH4 modding effort equivalent to GWX, and I think one or two other members of the team are less than enthusiastic about the Pacific theatre.

But I'll certainly be doing something, and least a few other grey wolves may start modding for SH4. There's nothing to be worried about in terms of modders willing to mod SH4. No doubt things will start off with small mods again, which will form the building blocks for the first supermods.

Yeah it was interesting to watch SH3 develop from the small to the large super-mods. Sure SH4 will be the same I'm sure. I still plan to keep SH3 handy and will continue to play it.

hocking · 03-04-07, 10:07 PM

I myself am not too thrilled about the Pacific Theater of operations. I am definitely interested in SH4 due to all of its new feature upgrades, but I wish it was going to be another Atlantic/UBoats sub-sim.

I am really really really hoping a group of modders are able to mod this game back into a U-Boat sim. That would be excellent.

stabiz · 03-04-07, 11:22 PM

Ditto!

My dream is a VIIC with SHIV graphics.

sgt.weasle · 03-05-07, 12:31 AM

fully patrolable world. US, British,German, and Japanese subs from 39 to 45. thats what im waiting for after SHIV.

Crosseye76 · 03-05-07, 02:59 AM

You are right on track there Sgt. The whole world, 39-45.

Boris · 03-05-07, 03:02 AM

Would be really awesome, but we'll have to see just how moddable SH4 will be. If it's going to be anything like SH3, then it'll be a no go'er.

Ducimus · 03-05-07, 03:06 AM

Mods in general i think are born from a few things:

1.) Something thats broken and a modder tries to fix it.

2.) Something is annoying, and a modder tries to make it less annoying.

3.) Something is historically incorrect, and it bugs someone enough to try and change it.

4.) Something isn't "realistic" enough to someones perception/interrpretation of the word, and they try to "fix" it.

But despite all that, i think what develops in terms of mods for SHIV is entirely dependant on its final patch, and the state of the game after said patch.

In terms of supermods, i personnaly really do not want a repeat of what went on behind the scenes in SH3's modding community. yes some decent stuff came out of it, but the drama at times was just too much. Certain attitudes and/or persona's should, i feel, leave the "baggage" behind in SH3 where it belongs before checking into the SH4 modding motel.

Boris · 03-05-07, 06:46 AM

It would be great if modders could work as a community again for SH4, working towards supermods together in an open forum, with no secrets to hide and petty crediting squabbles.

03-04-07, 09:21 AM	#1
bwchaney Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	future modding of SH4 I know this is premature but since I have no programming skills are the fantastic modders of SH3 going to become as interested in buying, playing and modding SH4? I think that all the modders are fantastic people to give up their time and energy to make all the good games better. I would not have stuck with SH3 without all the fantastice mods made by the community. So I guess my question is to Grey Wolves and everyone else; will you do a bangup job of making SH4 as good as SH3. Thanks in advance BwChaney

03-04-07, 10:07 AM	#3
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	We wont have all the Grey Wolves, it seems, but some. __________________

03-04-07, 12:14 PM	#4
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I really want to start a Norwegian Operations 2 mod. But then there'd first have to be some Atlantic Theatre mod for me to build upon, and it might mean discarding all my work so far on Norwegian Operations, in which case I'll be far more reluctant. We'll see. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-04-07, 01:33 PM	#5
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Could U-boats be added as a unit and North Atlantic Ops be modded? __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

03-04-07, 03:28 PM	#6
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I thought SH3 would bring back all the wonderful guys who modded SH2 so well. Didn't happen. Instead, we got a whole oceanfull of new guys who were great. Maybe SH4 will bring most of them back, maybe we'll see talented folks we've never seen before who'll get the job done. Probably some of both. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-04-07, 05:56 PM	#7
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Kpt. Lehmann has already unofficially said he won't be leading an SH4 modding effort equivalent to GWX, and I think one or two other members of the team are less than enthusiastic about the Pacific theatre. But I'll certainly be doing something, and least a few other grey wolves may start modding for SH4. There's nothing to be worried about in terms of modders willing to mod SH4. No doubt things will start off with small mods again, which will form the building blocks for the first supermods.

03-04-07, 10:07 PM	#9
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	I myself am not too thrilled about the Pacific Theater of operations. I am definitely interested in SH4 due to all of its new feature upgrades, but I wish it was going to be another Atlantic/UBoats sub-sim. I am really really really hoping a group of modders are able to mod this game back into a U-Boat sim. That would be excellent.

03-04-07, 11:22 PM	#10
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Ditto! My dream is a VIIC with SHIV graphics. __________________

03-05-07, 12:31 AM	#11
sgt.weasle Watch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: creston bc canada Posts: 23 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	fully patrolable world. US, British,German, and Japanese subs from 39 to 45. thats what im waiting for after SHIV.

03-05-07, 02:59 AM	#12
Crosseye76 Lieutenant Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 258 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You are right on track there Sgt. The whole world, 39-45. __________________ There are only two kinds of ships. Submarines and Targets.

03-05-07, 03:02 AM	#13
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Would be really awesome, but we'll have to see just how moddable SH4 will be. If it's going to be anything like SH3, then it'll be a no go'er.

03-05-07, 03:06 AM	#14
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Mods in general i think are born from a few things: 1.) Something thats broken and a modder tries to fix it. 2.) Something is annoying, and a modder tries to make it less annoying. 3.) Something is historically incorrect, and it bugs someone enough to try and change it. 4.) Something isn't "realistic" enough to someones perception/interrpretation of the word, and they try to "fix" it. But despite all that, i think what develops in terms of mods for SHIV is entirely dependant on its final patch, and the state of the game after said patch. In terms of supermods, i personnaly really do not want a repeat of what went on behind the scenes in SH3's modding community. yes some decent stuff came out of it, but the drama at times was just too much. Certain attitudes and/or persona's should, i feel, leave the "baggage" behind in SH3 where it belongs before checking into the SH4 modding motel.

03-05-07, 06:46 AM	#15
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	It would be great if modders could work as a community again for SH4, working towards supermods together in an open forum, with no secrets to hide and petty crediting squabbles.