Veterans

Mylander · 02-14-07, 04:50 PM

Y'all check this out: I'm a Dentist in New Bern (coastal) North Carolina, near Cherry Point MCAS. As such, I have a number of very interesting patients - I just finished chatting with Mr. Paul Newlove, the Engineering officer on USS Archerfish. He was on the Indianapolis on 5 December '41 when they steamed out of Pearl Harbor. Archerfish was patrolling off of Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered, so he was in the bay for the surrender ceremony. He saw Shinano sunk, damn. He is 90 years old - it has been very sad for me to watch his physical decline over the last few years. Today he told me he just lost a shipmate - one of the last couple of guys from the Archerfish still living. Another patient, "Pop" Beasley, just passed away over the holidays. "Pop" flew wildcats off of Henderson Field in the days of the "Cactus Airforce", and until a few years ago, would go hunting every year with his best friend Joe Foss, who was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor flying F4Fs with "Pop" over "The Canal" in 1942. Another patient, Rev. Clifford Dartt, was awarded the Navy Cross on Peleliu.

Salute to these guys, and all of the others. Their generation is passing away, to our great loss.

Andrew Mylander

flintlock · 02-14-07, 05:03 PM

Hello Mylander, and welcome to Subsim.

You're lucky to have an opportunity to meet and speak with such interesting people. Enjoyed reading your post, so thanks for sharing.

PS. Agreed, it's sad for all when veterans pass.

geetrue · 02-14-07, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flintlock

Hello Mylander, and welcome to Subsim.

You're lucky to have an opportunity to meet and speak with such interesting people. Enjoyed reading your post, so thanks for sharing.

PS. Agreed, it's sad for all when veterans pass.

Same goes for me Mylander ... wish someone would interview them with a camera.

I hear that over 20,000 WWII veterans are dying every month now ...

Soon no one will be left to tell us what happened ...

Thank you for doing what you did veterans ... Hey! I'm a veteran too :p

Sailor Steve · 02-14-07, 05:16 PM

Pretty cool, those guys' experiences.

Finback · 02-14-07, 05:29 PM

Salute!!! I only wish all people could know and remember what these men know too well. The ugly and real face of war.

My father is a WWII veteran and it is indescribable to relate his emotions when his grandson (my son) received 2 Purple Hearts in Iraq. As a father it is hard to meet your son returning from a tour and know that he has faced what I have only read about--and have no real point of reference to relate to his expeience. Only respect and exceptance of how he has changed keep us close as ever. HOOAHH 101st Airborne!!!

If only we didn't have to keep learning these lessons...

No emoticons can express the deep respect and honor I have for all Veterans.

Barkhorn1x · 02-14-07, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Their generation is passing away, to our great loss.

Andrew Mylander

That is the truth.

My wife's family here in FL had a group group of 4 guys - all WWII vets - my father-in-law (Signal Corps ETO), his brother (Field Artillery ETO), his brother-in-law (Navigator [B-24] USAAF in the Pacific), my wife's Uncle (sailor, USS Spencer, Atlantic and Pacific). All are gone now except the sailor and he is not in good health***.

These guys all grew up within a mile of each other in the Bronx, NYC - and never really left the neighborhood until they volunteered or were drafted. They all went in the service as little more than boys, saw the world, helped win a war, came back as men and really built the US during the 50's and 60's.

We will not see their like again.

Barkhorn.

***BTW, week after next we are going to have him and his wife over to watch "Flags of Our Fathers" on our large screen TV. He doesn't hear too well so I will have an excuse to turn the system up LOUD.

Lt commander lare · 02-14-07, 07:02 PM

im glad you had a chance to meet him and talk to him im reading about the archerfish now its called gallant lady a biography of the uss archerfish so far its really good i think all those guys were true heroes in my book and i wish them all well including all my submariner friends that are on eternal patrol in the pacific and even though i never was in submarines myself i have played submarine games and read and watched so many movies about them i feel very close to them even i though i never knew a single soul and i hope one day to meet all of them and tell them the gratitude i feel and will feel forever

lt commander lare

Mylander · 02-14-07, 08:38 PM

Thanks for the welcome fellas. I'm a veteran too - XVIII Airborne Corps Artillery - First Gulf War. I was a Ranger and Fire Direction Officer in a 155mm howitzer platoon. But that was just a training exercise compared to what these guys went through in WWII. We are all deeply in their debt. I try to let these guys know how much they are (still) appreciated. The first time I met "Pop" Beasley, I asked him: "So you were in the Cactus Airforce?" He said that he hadn't heard anyone use those words in 60 years - made my day. I told him I just read a lot. Rev, Dartt loaned me his 3 books on the Peleiu invasion. He was with 2/5 Marines, 1st MarDiv. He had highlighted some passages that pertained to his battalion and regiment, and made some handwritten notes in the margin like "This is where I got hit" in the Umurbrogol pocket. Invited me to his home where we spent a couple of hours talking, and he finally showed me his Navy Cross. These guys are to a man, very modest, and not grandstanders at all. Their attitude is "We just did what we had to do". They are heroes. The best of what America stands for.

As for my Subsim resume, it goes back to Avalon Hill's "Submarine!" cardboard counter, hex and dice game. On PCs, back to Silent Service II. I have been lurking on this board for a long time, just not a big poster. Can't wait for SH IV, it looks beautiful, and I am definitely a PTO guy. Been a long time since SH I.

Last summer, I SCUBA dived on the U-352 - sunk 30 miles off of Cape Lookout, by USS Icarus, in about 100 feet of water - almost out my back door. I took some great video and stills. Let me dig them up, and I will post.

My computer? I've always been a PC guy, but am running SHIII on my new machine, a Power MAC! (Gasp!) running Win XP in a dual boot environment. It runs all of these Windows games at max resolution with silky smooth frame rates - 2 x 256MB graphic cards. I have been very pleased.

Did I mention I can't wait for SH IV?

Best regards,

Andrew Mylander

Onkel Neal · 02-14-07, 08:43 PM

Welcome aboard, Andrew! Give Mr. Newlove our regards.

Finback · 02-14-07, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mylander

Thanks for the welcome fellas. I'm a veteran too - XVIII Airborne Corps Artillery - First Gulf War. I was a Ranger and Fire Direction Officer in a 155mm howitzer platoon. But that was just a training exercise compared to what these guys went through in WWII. We are all deeply in their debt. I try to let these guys know how much they are (still) appreciated. The first time I met "Pop" Beasley, I asked him: "So you were in the Cactus Airforce?" He said that he hadn't heard anyone use those words in 60 years - made my day. I told him I just read a lot. Rev, Dartt loaned me his 3 books on the Peleiu invasion. He was with 2/5 Marines, 1st MarDiv. He had highlighted some passages that pertained to his battalion and regiment, and made some handwritten notes in the margin like "This is where I got hit" in the Umurbrogol pocket. Invited me to his home where we spent a couple of hours talking, and he finally showed me his Navy Cross. These guys are to a man, very modest, and not grandstanders at all. Their attitude is "We just did what we had to do". They are heroes. The best of what America stands for.

As for my Subsim resume, it goes back to Avalon Hill's "Submarine!" cardboard counter, hex and dice game. On PCs, back to Silent Service II. I have been lurking on this board for a long time, just not a big poster. Can't wait for SH IV, it looks beautiful, and I am definitely a PTO guy. Been a long time since SH I.

Best regards,

Andrew Mylander

Hey Andrew!!! Welcome to Subsim!!!

A Pastor I used to get preached by (

) was either with 1st Marines 3/5 or 2/5--can't remember which off the top of my head... Have you ever read With the Old Breed? It's a great book about the 1st Division Marines on Pelileu and Okinawa. Great book. My ex-Pastor's name is in the back among the survivors, Orley Uhls. He's retired and I haven't seen him for years. Hope he is still well.

And!!!

I also started out on Avalon Hill's Submarine! It was a great game (as long as you used advanced rules

).

Cheers!!!

Barkhorn1x · 02-15-07, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finback

And!!!

I also started out on Avalon Hill's Submarine! It was a great game (as long as you used advanced rules

).

Cheers!!!

I still have my copy - and it's in excellent condition.

Remember the US Data Card, Mark XVIII Torp. Results Column?
DUD
DUD
DUD
DUD
DUD
HIT

Barkhorn.

Finback · 02-15-07, 08:26 AM

...let's see--11 to 64 for a hit (tumbling dice) Oh! 65?!! ALAARMMMM!!!!

:rotfl:

Dowly · 02-15-07, 07:37 PM

Joe Foss´ airport incident:
http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.htm

_Seth_ · 02-15-07, 07:47 PM

Welcome, mate! My respect to the ol' vets!

Mush Martin · 02-15-07, 08:04 PM

National Treasures

02-14-07, 04:50 PM	#1
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Veterans Y'all check this out: I'm a Dentist in New Bern (coastal) North Carolina, near Cherry Point MCAS. As such, I have a number of very interesting patients - I just finished chatting with Mr. Paul Newlove, the Engineering officer on USS Archerfish. He was on the Indianapolis on 5 December '41 when they steamed out of Pearl Harbor. Archerfish was patrolling off of Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered, so he was in the bay for the surrender ceremony. He saw Shinano sunk, damn. He is 90 years old - it has been very sad for me to watch his physical decline over the last few years. Today he told me he just lost a shipmate - one of the last couple of guys from the Archerfish still living. Another patient, "Pop" Beasley, just passed away over the holidays. "Pop" flew wildcats off of Henderson Field in the days of the "Cactus Airforce", and until a few years ago, would go hunting every year with his best friend Joe Foss, who was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor flying F4Fs with "Pop" over "The Canal" in 1942. Another patient, Rev. Clifford Dartt, was awarded the Navy Cross on Peleliu. Salute to these guys, and all of the others. Their generation is passing away, to our great loss. Andrew Mylander

02-14-07, 05:16 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Pretty cool, those guys' experiences. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-14-07, 05:29 PM	#5
Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Salute!!! I only wish all people could know and remember what these men know too well. The ugly and real face of war. My father is a WWII veteran and it is indescribable to relate his emotions when his grandson (my son) received 2 Purple Hearts in Iraq. As a father it is hard to meet your son returning from a tour and know that he has faced what I have only read about--and have no real point of reference to relate to his expeience. Only respect and exceptance of how he has changed keep us close as ever. HOOAHH 101st Airborne!!! If only we didn't have to keep learning these lessons... No emoticons can express the deep respect and honor I have for all Veterans. __________________ Past Hatteras the convoys sail, It seems the Allies will prevail. Churchill and Franklin share a grin, They know who's gonna win this sim. Finback

02-14-07, 08:43 PM	#9
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Welcome aboard, Andrew! Give Mr. Newlove our regards. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-15-07, 08:26 AM	#12
Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	...let's see--11 to 64 for a hit (tumbling dice) Oh! 65?!! ALAARMMMM!!!! :rotfl: __________________ Past Hatteras the convoys sail, It seems the Allies will prevail. Churchill and Franklin share a grin, They know who's gonna win this sim. Finback

02-14-07, 05:03 PM	#2
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hello Mylander, and welcome to Subsim. You're lucky to have an opportunity to meet and speak with such interesting people. Enjoyed reading your post, so thanks for sharing. PS. Agreed, it's sad for all when veterans pass.

02-14-07, 07:02 PM	#7
Lt commander lare Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: southlyon michigan Posts: 897 Downloads: 781 Uploads: 35	im glad you had a chance to meet him and talk to him im reading about the archerfish now its called gallant lady a biography of the uss archerfish so far its really good i think all those guys were true heroes in my book and i wish them all well including all my submariner friends that are on eternal patrol in the pacific and even though i never was in submarines myself i have played submarine games and read and watched so many movies about them i feel very close to them even i though i never knew a single soul and i hope one day to meet all of them and tell them the gratitude i feel and will feel forever lt commander lare

02-14-07, 08:38 PM	#8
Mylander Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Bern, NC, USA Posts: 120 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the welcome fellas. I'm a veteran too - XVIII Airborne Corps Artillery - First Gulf War. I was a Ranger and Fire Direction Officer in a 155mm howitzer platoon. But that was just a training exercise compared to what these guys went through in WWII. We are all deeply in their debt. I try to let these guys know how much they are (still) appreciated. The first time I met "Pop" Beasley, I asked him: "So you were in the Cactus Airforce?" He said that he hadn't heard anyone use those words in 60 years - made my day. I told him I just read a lot. Rev, Dartt loaned me his 3 books on the Peleiu invasion. He was with 2/5 Marines, 1st MarDiv. He had highlighted some passages that pertained to his battalion and regiment, and made some handwritten notes in the margin like "This is where I got hit" in the Umurbrogol pocket. Invited me to his home where we spent a couple of hours talking, and he finally showed me his Navy Cross. These guys are to a man, very modest, and not grandstanders at all. Their attitude is "We just did what we had to do". They are heroes. The best of what America stands for. As for my Subsim resume, it goes back to Avalon Hill's "Submarine!" cardboard counter, hex and dice game. On PCs, back to Silent Service II. I have been lurking on this board for a long time, just not a big poster. Can't wait for SH IV, it looks beautiful, and I am definitely a PTO guy. Been a long time since SH I. Last summer, I SCUBA dived on the U-352 - sunk 30 miles off of Cape Lookout, by USS Icarus, in about 100 feet of water - almost out my back door. I took some great video and stills. Let me dig them up, and I will post. My computer? I've always been a PC guy, but am running SHIII on my new machine, a Power MAC! (Gasp!) running Win XP in a dual boot environment. It runs all of these Windows games at max resolution with silky smooth frame rates - 2 x 256MB graphic cards. I have been very pleased. Did I mention I can't wait for SH IV? Best regards, Andrew Mylander

02-15-07, 07:37 PM	#13
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Joe Foss´ airport incident: http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.htm

02-15-07, 07:47 PM	#14
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Welcome, mate! My respect to the ol' vets! __________________

02-15-07, 08:04 PM	#15
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	National Treasures __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial