U.K Super Database

STEED · 01-15-07, 09:17 AM

As most of you folks here in the U.K know that the Government dropped the super database on the ID Card issue on the grounds of cost, but now they want to go ahead with another one? So is this a cheaper one and what's the deferents from the ID Card one they dropped, after all it's still snooping on you and I.

Fraud fears over super-database

danlisa · 01-15-07, 09:20 AM

Damn, STEED, you're fast. Are you subscribed to a RSS feed for the news? I've only just read this 5 mins ago.

It's something we've come to realise about this current government, they manage to get things through a back door.

STEED · 01-15-07, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Damn, STEED, you're fast.

I put it down to having three cups of coffee today.

baggygreen · 01-15-07, 10:23 PM

So, not having seen many of the plans or anything for this, whats the big deal if the govt wants to put into place an ID card? Provided it was only particular info, why is there a problem, can someone inform me?

STEED · 01-16-07, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by baggygreen

can someone inform me?

Read these old threads

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101099

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=98091

baggygreen · 01-16-07, 09:35 AM

Following a latenight skim, it seems the main issue is that of all your data being in the one spot. This would surely only ease a task which is already complicated? atm, a person could research your details and get them in a few hours, maybe a day. This would provide them within minutes (if i understand correctly).

As for police stopping you all in the streets etc, i dont know the facts here. All i know is that you should only be arrested if there is due suspicion of a crime or it is known you committed it. As to the example of being stopped and ID'd on the street, thats pushing it i think. We have cops stop us for a chat, but nothin more than bein friendly..

Kapitan · 01-18-07, 03:32 AM

I dont mind the data base for criminals but not for us normal people!

The con in london is you get cheap fares if you buy an oyster card but the thing is its a tracking device so all they have to do is run a scanner over your card and they know exactly where you have been!

Its just so degrading, to get from the depot to my first road on a monday morning i pass 96 cameras in hackney alone on a 5 mile strech in a day i will pass around 300 cameras easily (not counting the ones ive already passed).

You cant even take a **** in this country without a camera watching you these days.

KevinB · 01-18-07, 06:33 AM

http://www.infowars.net/articles/jan...air_legacy.htm

STEED · 01-18-07, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan

The con in london is you get cheap fares if you buy an oyster card but the thing is its a tracking device so all they have to do is run a scanner over your card and they know exactly where you have been!

Your true to a point Kap, if you bought the card from ticket office or a machine they know where the card has gone from A to Z but not the person who used it. I am not sure but I think if you buy the season oyster cards they do know who you are and of course where you have been.

Captain Nemo · 01-18-07, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

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Originally Posted by Kapitan

The con in london is you get cheap fares if you buy an oyster card but the thing is its a tracking device so all they have to do is run a scanner over your card and they know exactly where you have been!

Your true to a point Kap, if you bought the card from ticket office or a machine they know where the card has gone from A to Z but not the person who used it. I am not sure but I think if you buy the season oyster cards they do know who you are and of course where you have been.

You are correct Steed, unless of course you register the card online, which they encourage you to do in order that you don't lose out should you lose the card. I have my annual season ticket on mine and they can track where I've been. But thats not that interesting really Upney to St James's Park five days a week!

01-15-07, 09:17 AM	#1
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	U.K Super Database As most of you folks here in the U.K know that the Government dropped the super database on the ID Card issue on the grounds of cost, but now they want to go ahead with another one? So is this a cheaper one and what's the deferents from the ID Card one they dropped, after all it's still snooping on you and I. Fraud fears over super-database __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-15-07, 09:20 AM	#2
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Damn, STEED, you're fast. Are you subscribed to a RSS feed for the news? I've only just read this 5 mins ago. It's something we've come to realise about this current government, they manage to get things through a back door. __________________

01-18-07, 03:32 AM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	I dont mind the data base for criminals but not for us normal people! The con in london is you get cheap fares if you buy an oyster card but the thing is its a tracking device so all they have to do is run a scanner over your card and they know exactly where you have been! Its just so degrading, to get from the depot to my first road on a monday morning i pass 96 cameras in hackney alone on a 5 mile strech in a day i will pass around 300 cameras easily (not counting the ones ive already passed). You cant even take a ** in this country without a camera watching you these days. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond** Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

01-18-07, 06:33 AM	#8
KevinB Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 195 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So now the UK IS becoming a POLICE STATE http://www.infowars.net/articles/jan...air_legacy.htm

01-15-07, 10:23 PM	#4
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	So, not having seen many of the plans or anything for this, whats the big deal if the govt wants to put into place an ID card? Provided it was only particular info, why is there a problem, can someone inform me?

01-16-07, 09:35 AM	#6
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Following a latenight skim, it seems the main issue is that of all your data being in the one spot. This would surely only ease a task which is already complicated? atm, a person could research your details and get them in a few hours, maybe a day. This would provide them within minutes (if i understand correctly). As for police stopping you all in the streets etc, i dont know the facts here. All i know is that you should only be arrested if there is due suspicion of a crime or it is known you committed it. As to the example of being stopped and ID'd on the street, thats pushing it i think. We have cops stop us for a chat, but nothin more than bein friendly..