US Submarines collides with Japanese Tanker

Nightmare · 01-08-07, 09:52 PM

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TOKYO - A U.S. nuclear submarine and a Japanese tanker have collided in the Arabian Sea, a Japanese defense ministry spokesman said Tuesday.

The spokesman said the ministry was investigating the incident but no other details were immediately available.

This breaking story will be updated.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16533096/

I wonder which boat and I hope nobody is hurt.

Bubblehead Nuke · 01-08-07, 09:59 PM

USS Newport News was involved.

Both ships are damaged but no reported fatilities at this time.

LoBlo · 01-08-07, 11:27 PM

*Another* collision? Why can't these skippers drive their boats anymore. That's the 3rd collision in the past 6 years. The Greenville, the San Franciso, and now the Newport News...

... this is becoming a disconcerting trend.

baggygreen · 01-08-07, 11:45 PM

How is it that you just happen to *miss* a supertanker bearing down on you...

make him walk the plank i say!

Oberon · 01-09-07, 12:48 AM

It's easier than you think depending on the sonar condictions, and I should imagine in the Straits the condictions are bloody awful. Not only do you have a constant stream of merchant ships, the depths are quite shallow in some places, and if you're trying to move about unseen and unheard, it limits the areas you can move in (note that the collision took place off the Iranian coastline

).

Just ask Bill how treacherous sonar condictions can be, IIRC there was an incident in the Med with an aircraft carrier....

nikimcbee · 01-09-07, 12:58 AM

try this:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070109/D8MHHQD00.html

XanderF · 01-09-07, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's easier than you think depending on the sonar condictions, and I should imagine in the Straits the condictions are bloody awful. Not only do you have a constant stream of merchant ships, the depths are quite shallow in some places, and if you're trying to move about unseen and unheard, it limits the areas you can move in (note that the collision took place off the Iranian coastline

).

Just ask Bill how treacherous sonar condictions can be, IIRC there was an incident in the Med with an aircraft carrier....

What, and they've removed the periscopes from them or something?

I mean, seriously, this isn't a sub-on-sub collision, here. To collide with a TANKER, you are at periscope depth!

baggygreen · 01-09-07, 02:50 AM

Well no, PD is not necessary to hit the tanker. Those things have ridiculous drafts, the NN coulda been much deeper.

Abraham · 01-09-07, 04:21 AM

Given the intensity of naval patrolling and merchant maritime traffic in the area these things are bound to happen, I guess.

U-533 · 01-09-07, 06:14 AM

Why is it always the Japanese that get hit?:hmm:

The Avon Lady · 01-09-07, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by U-533

Why is it always the Japanese that get hit?:hmm:

Nah! Can't be!

Oberon · 01-09-07, 08:09 AM

Also, bear in mind that any mast stuck up out of the water runs the risk of getting sniffed by radar. Any ship or merchant in the area that picks it up could pass the information on to the Iranians, who might just be able to get one of their Kilos working long enough to deploy it, or send over a little ASW ship to make the Newport News's life a bit more difficult.
So the NN was probably relying more on sonar than visual, and like I said, sonar condictions in Med-like waters can be very misleading.

Either that, or the US Navy is still fighting World War 2

Godalmighty83 · 01-09-07, 08:12 AM

newport news? what an awful name for a sub.

Abraham · 01-09-07, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by U-533

Why is it always the Japanese that get hit?:hmm:

The motto of most submariners is: "If it floats, it's a target."
Combine that with the fact that historically Jap tankers are the natural enemy of US subs and there you are...

(This might even happen more frequently after Silent Hunter IV is released!)

sonar732 · 01-09-07, 09:22 AM

I'd hate to be on watch during the Straights of Hormuz or Persian Gulf due to all the merchant traffic. It's funny reading the people complain in the DW forum about 'contact madness' for sonar operator for a game. We had periods of contact madness that they would freak out due to contacts crossing each other on the TA.

01-08-07, 11:27 PM	#3
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Another collision? Why can't these skippers drive their boats anymore. That's the 3rd collision in the past 6 years. The Greenville, the San Franciso, and now the Newport News... ... this is becoming a disconcerting trend. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

01-09-07, 12:58 AM	#6
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	try this: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070109/D8MHHQD00.html __________________

01-09-07, 04:21 AM	#9
Abraham Eternal Patrol Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	US Submarine collides with Japanese Tanker Given the intensity of naval patrolling and merchant maritime traffic in the area these things are bound to happen, I guess. __________________ RIP Abraham

01-09-07, 08:12 AM	#13
Godalmighty83 Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	newport news? what an awful name for a sub. __________________ Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

01-08-07, 09:59 PM	#2
Bubblehead Nuke XO Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 435 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	USS Newport News was involved. Both ships are damaged but no reported fatilities at this time.

01-08-07, 11:45 PM	#4
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	How is it that you just happen to miss a supertanker bearing down on you... make him walk the plank i say!

01-09-07, 12:48 AM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It's easier than you think depending on the sonar condictions, and I should imagine in the Straits the condictions are bloody awful. Not only do you have a constant stream of merchant ships, the depths are quite shallow in some places, and if you're trying to move about unseen and unheard, it limits the areas you can move in (note that the collision took place off the Iranian coastline ). Just ask Bill how treacherous sonar condictions can be, IIRC there was an incident in the Med with an aircraft carrier....

01-09-07, 02:50 AM	#8
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Well no, PD is not necessary to hit the tanker. Those things have ridiculous drafts, the NN coulda been much deeper.

01-09-07, 06:14 AM	#10
U-533 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: On my Boat Posts: 594 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why is it always the Japanese that get hit?:hmm:

01-09-07, 08:09 AM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Also, bear in mind that any mast stuck up out of the water runs the risk of getting sniffed by radar. Any ship or merchant in the area that picks it up could pass the information on to the Iranians, who might just be able to get one of their Kilos working long enough to deploy it, or send over a little ASW ship to make the Newport News's life a bit more difficult. So the NN was probably relying more on sonar than visual, and like I said, sonar condictions in Med-like waters can be very misleading. Either that, or the US Navy is still fighting World War 2

01-09-07, 09:22 AM	#15
sonar732 The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central MO Posts: 1,562 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I'd hate to be on watch during the Straights of Hormuz or Persian Gulf due to all the merchant traffic. It's funny reading the people complain in the DW forum about 'contact madness' for sonar operator for a game. We had periods of contact madness that they would freak out due to contacts crossing each other on the TA.