HOW to make really good FOG? (haze,blur) - PLZ HELP!

urfisch · 01-04-07, 10:00 PM

im searching for month now to find an answer to make real fog. i mean the little haze when you look over the sea. i tried a lot with the mini-tweaker and the *.dat files, but it seems as if even not any of my changes takes effect.

for example: if i change the parameters for fog type 1 (no fog) to the numbers of heavy fog there is still no fog at all. not a tiny little one...

what are im doing wrong? plz help. anyone else (kaleunt) explored that there exists a fog.obj which is used for the foggy haze at the horizont...i guess that to get the real life sea-haze you have to get this obj "strechted" to get into it or near to it. plz leave feedback!

im sorry for my bad english, but its already 4 oclock in the morning

HundertzehnGustav · 01-05-07, 05:44 AM

do you mean fog that "lies" on the sea?So nebel der auf dem wasser/wasseroberflaeche "aufliegt"?that would be pretty coooool

urfisch · 01-05-07, 05:52 AM

not really. cleared up:

im searching for method to make a light hazy fog at clear/calm day and night. as there is always some kind of haze/blur if you view on long distances (even if you may see ships up to 16km) - and this is what i want to simulate: the layers of the air. this is missing in the game.

ideas are welcome!

01-05-07, 10:59 AM

Are you doing anything special to get the smoke trails as dense and high as they are? Mine never look like that!

Pants · 01-05-07, 11:24 AM

I would love to see "real fog" instead of the fog wall we have right now.

01-05-07, 11:42 AM

Those are pretty good results you got there. Looking forward to a GWX'ed mod for it..

Jimbuna · 01-05-07, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I would love to see "real fog" instead of the fog wall we have right now.

Good point mate...now that would be one hell of an improvement

In actual fact I was just asking mrchris on TS this morning ih he had ever actually witnessed the weather change in x!

HanSolo78 · 01-05-07, 05:14 PM

@urfisch

really great!!!

rascal101 · 01-05-07, 05:23 PM

Hey this is great I've been hoping to do something like it myself, that is taise the smoke height and improve impact splash. You have done a fine job. Looking forward to downloading the finished articles.

Any chance of a couple of different coloured smoke effects, say one for oil smoke, one for steam and one for damage and fire, just a thought.

Best wishes and looking forward to the final mod

Rascal

Jimbuna · 01-05-07, 05:29 PM

You do realise you'll get all the blame for future global warming

Gildor · 01-06-07, 12:35 AM

When I was a noob sailor just learning the ropes, I learned during lookout training that an object that is just over the horizon can "appear" to be up in the air. One of the things to look out for was a mast, superstructure, or sail, that looks like it is floating above the horizon. It is cauzed by the bending of light due to tempreture etc.

Many times while standing bridge lookout duty i saw objects over the horizon by looking up. ( a few degrees, not like halfway up the sky

)

Interestingly, it also magnifys the size of objects. I reported a large ship on the horizon that, once it came closer, turned out to be a liferaft. (No one was in it thankfully)

In the game at 16km I have seen masts and such on the horizon without seeing the hull. I think it looks very realistic.

HundertzehnGustav · 01-06-07, 08:21 AM

agree there

one cannot see the Hull of a ship due to sun reflections on the Horizon and all... fog is to blame too

i would like to say i agree on the smoke height of a burning tanker

but i must also ask wether Cargoes and DDs are to have such high smoke effects? I mean, escpecially the DDs, who basically had good to VERY good engine maintenence and did try to sail undetected as good as possible....?

urfish, congratulations on your playing around with the smoke!

do you know wether it is possible to make the smoke float with the actually active wind direction (and speed????)

This i would be interested in.
Also: what kind of filkes are you plaing around besides textures (smoke height?)

Ziemlich gut, alter! Mach weiter so!!

Mush Martin · 01-06-07, 11:56 AM

most accounts have smoke being much taller on most days and this is a wonderful improvement MM

azn_132 · 01-06-07, 12:06 PM

Where can we get all of this?

skoobydew · 01-06-07, 10:50 PM

urfisch Good Job

01-04-07, 10:00 PM	#1
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	HOW to make really good FOG? (haze,blur) - PLZ HELP! im searching for month now to find an answer to make real fog. i mean the little haze when you look over the sea. i tried a lot with the mini-tweaker and the *.dat files, but it seems as if even not any of my changes takes effect. for example: if i change the parameters for fog type 1 (no fog) to the numbers of heavy fog there is still no fog at all. not a tiny little one... what are im doing wrong? plz help. anyone else (kaleunt) explored that there exists a fog.obj which is used for the foggy haze at the horizont...i guess that to get the real life sea-haze you have to get this obj "strechted" to get into it or near to it. plz leave feedback! im sorry for my bad english, but its already 4 oclock in the morning

01-05-07, 05:44 AM	#2
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	do you mean fog that "lies" on the sea?So nebel der auf dem wasser/wasseroberflaeche "aufliegt"?that would be pretty coooool __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-05-07, 11:24 AM	#5
Pants Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 849 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I would love to see "real fog" instead of the fog wall we have right now. __________________ Ex GWX Dev Team member and proud GWX user

01-05-07, 05:14 PM	#8
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	@urfisch really great!!! __________________

01-05-07, 05:23 PM	#9
rascal101 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 769 Downloads: 200 Uploads: 0	New Improved smoke Hey this is great I've been hoping to do something like it myself, that is taise the smoke height and improve impact splash. You have done a fine job. Looking forward to downloading the finished articles. Any chance of a couple of different coloured smoke effects, say one for oil smoke, one for steam and one for damage and fire, just a thought. Best wishes and looking forward to the final mod Rascal

01-05-07, 05:52 AM	#3
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	not really. cleared up: im searching for method to make a light hazy fog at clear/calm day and night. as there is always some kind of haze/blur if you view on long distances (even if you may see ships up to 16km) - and this is what i want to simulate: the layers of the air. this is missing in the game. ideas are welcome!

01-05-07, 10:59 AM	#4
Albrecht Von Hesse Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Are you doing anything special to get the smoke trails as dense and high as they are? Mine never look like that!

01-05-07, 11:42 AM	#6
Mav87th Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Those are pretty good results you got there. Looking forward to a GWX'ed mod for it..

01-05-07, 05:29 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You do realise you'll get all the blame for future global warming __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-06-07, 12:35 AM	#11
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When I was a noob sailor just learning the ropes, I learned during lookout training that an object that is just over the horizon can "appear" to be up in the air. One of the things to look out for was a mast, superstructure, or sail, that looks like it is floating above the horizon. It is cauzed by the bending of light due to tempreture etc. Many times while standing bridge lookout duty i saw objects over the horizon by looking up. ( a few degrees, not like halfway up the sky ) Interestingly, it also magnifys the size of objects. I reported a large ship on the horizon that, once it came closer, turned out to be a liferaft. (No one was in it thankfully) In the game at 16km I have seen masts and such on the horizon without seeing the hull. I think it looks very realistic. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

01-06-07, 08:21 AM	#12
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	agree there one cannot see the Hull of a ship due to sun reflections on the Horizon and all... fog is to blame too i would like to say i agree on the smoke height of a burning tanker but i must also ask wether Cargoes and DDs are to have such high smoke effects? I mean, escpecially the DDs, who basically had good to VERY good engine maintenence and did try to sail undetected as good as possible....? urfish, congratulations on your playing around with the smoke! do you know wether it is possible to make the smoke float with the actually active wind direction (and speed????) This i would be interested in. Also: what kind of filkes are you plaing around besides textures (smoke height?) Ziemlich gut, alter! Mach weiter so!! __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-06-07, 11:56 AM	#13
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The effect is breathtaking most accounts have smoke being much taller on most days and this is a wonderful improvement MM __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

01-06-07, 12:06 PM	#14
azn_132 Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 950 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Where can we get all of this?

01-06-07, 10:50 PM	#15
skoobydew Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	urfisch Good Job