Nav Mod Update - the Maps

vanjast · 01-04-07, 09:55 AM

Theeeese is soo goood. The SH3 map is nicely scaled and very editable.. here we are.

Mission editor with a position of West15, North10.
Sextant(V1.0) is on the button

and so are the map longitudes and latitudes..

I just have to put the scale indicators on the map, maybe draw a nice sextant graphic.. and we're off to sea for testing

Woof1701 · 01-04-07, 11:35 AM

Very nice. Now I only have to learn how to use a sextant and off I go

Very good idea though. I really like the idea with the latitudes/longitudes in the map. Especially for the Pacific scenarios in GWX it could come in useful. Thanks

GT182 · 01-04-07, 12:08 PM

Sweet.

HEMISENT · 01-04-07, 01:17 PM

WOW, this really does look good. Since I'm pretty verklempt at all this I hope there's gonna be a really good tutorial.

Outstanding so far

vanjast · 01-04-07, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEMISENT

... I hope there's gonna be a really good tutorial.

Outstanding so far

It's all coming...

Phoenix3000 · 01-04-07, 04:36 PM

That is excellent work!

I'm certainly looking forward to using this - it will add that extra touch of realism to a fantastic sim!

Px3000

----- Forgot to add. I'm using SH3 1.4b, GWX + 23rd Dec updates and SH3 Commander 2.7 - will this be compatible? Thanks

Corsair · 01-04-07, 04:44 PM

Congratulations, mate, it starts looking good...

vanjast · 01-04-07, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woof1701

.. Now I only have to learn how to use a sextant and off I go ..

Using a sextant is as easy-as-pie.. Using the North Pole star (polaris), whatever angle/position it is on the sextant is your latitude (north/south) position. SH3 does not seem to have any of the anomaly's like atmospheric refraction, etc... and the map has been flattened so that it's linear. Establishing longitude is a simple matter of comparing the SH3 local time and the Greenwich time -> 15 degrees earth rotation equals 1 hour. Star maps will be provided. This is a scanned, 'fitted' and very much reduced Northern Hemisphere map. The Mod one is big, but I'd encourage you all to buy this, as it's cheapy.

This list goes on so I think the Mod will probably be broken down to game files and educational docs..

vanjast · 01-04-07, 05:23 PM

Almost forgot.. I think the developers might have put in a 'fish-eye' type of visual effect as the sextant scaling had to be adjusted. If you look carefully at the Sextant pic above you'll notice that the 0-10 degree range is larger than the 20-40 degree range then increases again up to 60 degrees. I made some quick missions with all the latitude positions and found the final (v1) sextant to be fairly accurate, considering the amount of sub roll that the game has on a flat sea. I think that one will have to average out the reading to get a decent reading... which is probably the way it was The Sextant (screen view on 1024x768) has a 60 degree range with the following conditions. 1) The conning tower (F4) view has to have the sea level on the very bottom pixel of your screen. If not the scale changes and readings will be inaccurate. 2) If viewing above 60 Degrees adjust your view to max vertical and Zero now becomes 60 Degs. It's a condition that I cannot change, and found to be the simplest/effective for implementing the mod... but at sea, you have all the time in the world to take a reading...

vanjast · 01-04-07, 05:25 PM

Is it just me or has this server missed the 'line-feeds' in the text ??

vanjast · 01-04-07, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix3000

That is excellent work!

----- Forgot to add. I'm using SH3 1.4b, GWX + 23rd Dec updates and SH3 Commander 2.7 - will this be compatible? Thanks

I don't have a clue yet, but what I'll do is ask the relevant NYGM & GWX modders if they want to include it in their next versions, or failing that, I'll provide the explicit details on where to insert the mod data - This'll require a bit of carefull editing on your part, which will be a mission, but if you're into this, it'll be no problem.

_Seth_ · 01-04-07, 06:02 PM

Hats off for you, mate!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU DONT KNOW HOW I MISSED THIS THING!!!!!!

:u p:

GT182 · 01-04-07, 08:55 PM

Van, to make it easier, why not make it compatible with the JSGME mod installer? Besides, those that might not want to keep it, can easlily take it out of SHIII with mod installer.

Lanzfeld · 01-04-07, 11:59 PM

So how do we tell our latitude in the southern hemisphere?

vanjast · 01-05-07, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT182

Van, to make it easier, why not make it compatible with the JSGME mod installer? Besides, those that might not want to keep it, can easlily take it out of SHIII with mod installer.

There might be a problem if any of the big mods also change the files that I've changed/edited. I'll check on this. Maybe the big mods can have an option for (un)installing this mod.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

So how do we tell our latitude in the southern hemisphere?

Same method (I'll be testing this side of the world soon). I've got a Southern Hemisphere star map similar to the Northern one. But here there is no South Pole star to work from. On this side of the world one has to know the elevations of the stars (the star map) and take readings on the zeniths (highest point).

As an example One of the 3 stars of Orion's belt lies virtually on the equator. This star could be used in a similar way as the North Pole star, when 'down south'. Once you have a reading your position will be (90 - reading) South You can choose other stars depending on what's easier to spot.

I'll also provide a sunrise(set) and moonrise(set) almanac for the time period. You can also get your readings from this.

01-04-07, 09:55 AM	#1
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Nav Mod Update - the Maps Theeeese is soo goood. The SH3 map is nicely scaled and very editable.. here we are. Mission editor with a position of West15, North10. Sextant(V1.0) is on the button and so are the map longitudes and latitudes.. I just have to put the scale indicators on the map, maybe draw a nice sextant graphic.. and we're off to sea for testing

01-04-07, 12:08 PM	#3
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Sweet. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-04-07, 01:17 PM	#4
HEMISENT Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 1,052 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	WOW, this really does look good. Since I'm pretty verklempt at all this I hope there's gonna be a really good tutorial. Outstanding so far __________________ Nuke 'em till they glow!

01-04-07, 04:36 PM	#6
Phoenix3000 Weps Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England (Usually in a pub...) Posts: 358 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	That is excellent work! I'm certainly looking forward to using this - it will add that extra touch of realism to a fantastic sim! Px3000 ----- Forgot to add. I'm using SH3 1.4b, GWX + 23rd Dec updates and SH3 Commander 2.7 - will this be compatible? Thanks Last edited by Phoenix3000; 01-04-07 at 04:53 PM.

01-04-07, 04:44 PM	#7
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Congratulations, mate, it starts looking good... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

01-04-07, 11:35 AM	#2
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Very nice. Now I only have to learn how to use a sextant and off I go Very good idea though. I really like the idea with the latitudes/longitudes in the map. Especially for the Pacific scenarios in GWX it could come in useful. Thanks

01-04-07, 05:23 PM	#9
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Almost forgot.. I think the developers might have put in a 'fish-eye' type of visual effect as the sextant scaling had to be adjusted. If you look carefully at the Sextant pic above you'll notice that the 0-10 degree range is larger than the 20-40 degree range then increases again up to 60 degrees. I made some quick missions with all the latitude positions and found the final (v1) sextant to be fairly accurate, considering the amount of sub roll that the game has on a flat sea. I think that one will have to average out the reading to get a decent reading... which is probably the way it was The Sextant (screen view on 1024x768) has a 60 degree range with the following conditions. 1) The conning tower (F4) view has to have the sea level on the very bottom pixel of your screen. If not the scale changes and readings will be inaccurate. 2) If viewing above 60 Degrees adjust your view to max vertical and Zero now becomes 60 Degs. It's a condition that I cannot change, and found to be the simplest/effective for implementing the mod... but at sea, you have all the time in the world to take a reading...

01-04-07, 05:25 PM	#10
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,734 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Is it just me or has this server missed the 'line-feeds' in the text ??

01-04-07, 06:02 PM	#12
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Hats off for you, mate!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU DONT KNOW HOW I MISSED THIS THING!!!!!! :u p: __________________

01-04-07, 08:55 PM	#13
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Van, to make it easier, why not make it compatible with the JSGME mod installer? Besides, those that might not want to keep it, can easlily take it out of SHIII with mod installer. __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

01-04-07, 11:59 PM	#14
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	So how do we tell our latitude in the southern hemisphere?