SH3/GWX Newbie

Makr · 12-30-06, 03:57 PM

First I should say, this forum is great, there's so much info on here I haven't needed to post until now.
I got SH3 about 2 weeks ago then found these forums and recently downloaded GWX. I've been completely addicted to GWX, sunk a few ships, but I don't last more than 2 missions tops! It's been a blast, but I'm starting to get a little discouraged.

Anyway, here's my question....how do I avoid getting blown up??? It never fails, I cruising along, see a warship, dive, they hover around dropping depth charges until I'm gone. What should I do?

Please help!

johan_d · 12-30-06, 03:59 PM

Get the hell away from them, build expierience on merchants, and other small things.

Go deep, slow, 2 knots and AWAY from them.

try later when better.

Sieg heil!

Makr · 12-30-06, 04:08 PM

I'm not going after them, just trying to avoid them and stay alive, and no matter what they get me. guess i just need practice.

Corsair · 12-30-06, 04:09 PM

In the beginning, try to avoid places where there are good chances to have DDs on patrol, start in early war and make your hand by attacking lonely merchants.
The later try your hand at a couple of convoys.
It's like it's been for all of us : read in depth and understand the manuals, if posible have a few readings in books or on the net about the real thing, and it takes some time to build an experience..

Makr · 12-30-06, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corsair

In the beginning, try to avoid places where there are good chances to have DDs on patrol, start in early war and make your hand by attacking lonely merchants.
The later try your hand at a couple of convoys.
It's like it's been for all of us : read in depth and understand the manuals, if posible have a few readings in books or on the net about the real thing, and it takes some time to build an experience..

yeah, i've already started avoiding quite a few places....tell ya, doesn't take much to get into trouble. thanks for the feedback......time to head out to sea!

stabiz · 12-30-06, 04:48 PM

Welcome, mate!

Run silent, run deep, and manually plot speed to 2 knots if detected.

PS: Later in the war you will get some acoustic torpedoes (escort killers), and bold (distraction).

Its all about practice, as stated already. Good luck!

johan_d · 12-30-06, 04:50 PM

Oh, do not hesitate to ask more questions, we are nice people, glad to help!

andy_311 · 12-30-06, 06:13 PM

there's always the other option if your brave enough take out the DD's it's not that hard.

12-30-06, 06:20 PM

I use the Type VII pretty much all the time, and while the DD's are tougher with the GWX mod I normally find that if I go on silent running at 2kts and dive below the 160m mark I can survive the worst they can throw at me. Bearing in mind my career is late 1941 at the moment, so I'm sure the DD's will become ruthless later on.

I also run on the surface after dark and remain submerged during daylight hours - especially when running near the UK coastline, the amount of patrolling DD's and corevettes make it very risky to remain surfaced nearer land.

The key is to spot the enemy before he spots you

Makr · 12-30-06, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Welcome, mate!

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose_green

I also run on the surface after dark and remain submerged during daylight hours - especially when running near the UK coastline, the amount of patrolling DD's and corevettes make it very risky to remain surfaced nearer land.

I do tend to run on the surface until something sees me. I'll try this next time...and it sounds like I need to move A LOT slower

@All: Thanks for all the feedback!

Jimbuna · 12-31-06, 06:56 AM

Go to periscope depth at regular intervals and travel at slow speed so you can 'listen' through your hydrophones for a while...they can 'hear' much further than your lookouts can 'see'

Corsair · 12-31-06, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by andy_311

there's always the other option if your brave enough take out the DD's it's not that hard.

As I suppose you don't take them on with your deck guns, it means you're wasting precious torpedoes with some miss probability when the same torpedoes could bring you big merchants on your log...

Corsair · 12-31-06, 08:27 AM

@ Makr :

" I do tend to run on the surface until something sees me. "

Confirm this is not a good idea, specially in places covered by airbases...

Razman23 · 12-31-06, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corsair

@ Makr :

" I do tend to run on the surface until something sees me. "

Confirm this is not a good idea, specially in places covered by airbases...

I disagree.

I run on the surface nearly all the time.

BUT.....................I only run at 64x - 128x time compression max!

This gives me enough time for my watch crew to see any nastys out there and time for me to crash dive.

I have several careers going on at this time with one being in middle 1943. I use the same method for all of them.

When I am in a area of known shipping (the grey areas on the map), I run 64x TC at the max. In other areas, I run 128x TC max.

Also the first thing I grab is the RWR when it first appears. It is a life saver. When I get the warning, I have enough time to dive to 40m at regular speed and not get attacked. Also not all radar warnings are from planes. Sometimes when I get a warning and dive, my sonar operator starts to sput out contacts from a convoy nearby.

Hakahura · 12-31-06, 10:02 AM

Be more aggresive !

12-30-06, 03:57 PM	#1
Makr Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In a van down by the river. Posts: 50 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3/GWX Newbie First I should say, this forum is great, there's so much info on here I haven't needed to post until now. I got SH3 about 2 weeks ago then found these forums and recently downloaded GWX. I've been completely addicted to GWX, sunk a few ships, but I don't last more than 2 missions tops! It's been a blast, but I'm starting to get a little discouraged. Anyway, here's my question....how do I avoid getting blown up??? It never fails, I cruising along, see a warship, dive, they hover around dropping depth charges until I'm gone. What should I do? Please help!

12-30-06, 04:09 PM	#4
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	In the beginning, try to avoid places where there are good chances to have DDs on patrol, start in early war and make your hand by attacking lonely merchants. The later try your hand at a couple of convoys. It's like it's been for all of us : read in depth and understand the manuals, if posible have a few readings in books or on the net about the real thing, and it takes some time to build an experience.. __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

12-30-06, 04:48 PM	#6
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Welcome, mate! Run silent, run deep, and manually plot speed to 2 knots if detected. PS: Later in the war you will get some acoustic torpedoes (escort killers), and bold (distraction). Its all about practice, as stated already. Good luck! __________________

12-31-06, 06:56 AM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Go to periscope depth at regular intervals and travel at slow speed so you can 'listen' through your hydrophones for a while...they can 'hear' much further than your lookouts can 'see' __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-31-06, 08:27 AM	#13
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	@ Makr : " I do tend to run on the surface until something sees me. " Confirm this is not a good idea, specially in places covered by airbases... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

12-30-06, 03:59 PM	#2
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Get the hell away from them, build expierience on merchants, and other small things. Go deep, slow, 2 knots and AWAY from them. try later when better. Sieg heil!

12-30-06, 04:08 PM	#3
Makr Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In a van down by the river. Posts: 50 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm not going after them, just trying to avoid them and stay alive, and no matter what they get me. guess i just need practice.

12-30-06, 04:50 PM	#7
johan_d Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 556 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 1	Oh, do not hesitate to ask more questions, we are nice people, glad to help!

12-30-06, 06:13 PM	#8
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	there's always the other option if your brave enough take out the DD's it's not that hard.

12-30-06, 06:20 PM	#9
Goose_green Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I use the Type VII pretty much all the time, and while the DD's are tougher with the GWX mod I normally find that if I go on silent running at 2kts and dive below the 160m mark I can survive the worst they can throw at me. Bearing in mind my career is late 1941 at the moment, so I'm sure the DD's will become ruthless later on. I also run on the surface after dark and remain submerged during daylight hours - especially when running near the UK coastline, the amount of patrolling DD's and corevettes make it very risky to remain surfaced nearer land. The key is to spot the enemy before he spots you

12-31-06, 10:02 AM	#15
Hakahura Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Posts: 785 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Be more aggresive ! __________________ Sir Humphey Appleby, GCB, KBE, MVO and MA. Britain's Greatest Orator, well bar that Churchill fellow.