NYGM 3

codmander · 12-22-06, 09:39 AM

Any release date for NYGM3 someone must know the real poop:p

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

Ducimus · 12-22-06, 12:11 PM

:rotfl:

Sailor Steve · 12-22-06, 12:14 PM

Is something wrong with 2.3?

KLARCH · 12-22-06, 02:58 PM

Not from what I've seen.

NYGM rocks.

Corsair · 12-22-06, 03:23 PM

The way the world goes... something is just out, they all want something else already

mr chris · 12-22-06, 03:24 PM

You for real with this thread? :hmm:
Have you not heard that DTB and Observer have run off.

The Munster · 12-22-06, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codmander

Any release date for NYGM3 someone must know the real poop:p

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

Whale Watching in Cape Cod ? I don't need to go there to see them mate, I gottem here

Jimbuna · 12-22-06, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codmander

Any release date for NYGM3 someone must know the real poop:p

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

I think I heard the 12th of never from somewhere or other

12-22-06, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codmander

Any release date for NYGM3 someone must know the real poop:p

http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

Please don't use the words 'NYGM' and 'poop' in the same sentence. Thank you for your cooperation. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Dowly · 12-22-06, 08:29 PM

I wonder where herr DTB is hiding. :hmm:

Corsair · 12-23-06, 03:31 AM

Don't see anyway why a version 3 would be needed, present version is doing the job for me...

jimmie · 12-23-06, 04:51 AM

One thing I have been wondering is, Teddy Bear was working on "keel depth" mod, which makes various keel depth in relation to cargo load visually, and it just looked too awesome; then draft data in the rec manual is only reference and real draft would differ by the ship's load.

He presented this while first NYGM ship damage mod was in a close test, when there was yet any of NYGM anything released, I guess it was about late November 2005. It was mentioned in SimHQ's then SH3 forum where he was the moderator of the forum at that time...

I have not exclusively followed every discussion of NYGM thing but I have not seen this keel depth thing since then... Anyone knows if it was abandoned for a technical difficulty and all, perhaps?

Stiebler · 12-23-06, 07:27 AM

Concerning keel depths of ships:

We had two ideas.
1. To create separate mods for every merchant ship with five different degrees of loading. This idea was hastily abandoned when we realised how many bytes every user would have to download: five versions of every merchant ship! (Check out the size of the existing single files).
2. To adopt a German idea in the campaign files, to lower the ship depths a little when laden, and to raise them when returning empty. There was a big snag with this. You had to lower the depths simultaneously of *all* the units in a group. So if you created heavy-laden convoy merchant ships, you also lowered the escorts. Then they sank.
We could have adopted this idea for single merchants, but it seemed to be inconsistent to do it for some merchants sailing alone, but not for merchants in convoy. Also, there was no programmatic way we could work out which single ships should be travelling laden and which unladen. To do this manually for all single ships, when we couldn't apply it to the convoys, seemed to be an enormous and pointless labour. So we didn't do it.

Stiebler.

jimmie · 12-23-06, 08:13 AM

That makes it very clear, thanks for detailed explanation. It's kinda sad, since it looked really amazing but I'd give up the idea for the same reason...

I wonder how they set the torp depth in real life... they must have some inaccurate info about marchant ship data, then they had to judge the depth visually and it must have been tough, and moreover depth keeping device is not very reliable. I would stick with impact pistol if I were one of them.

A couple things sorta on topic tho... I think it is very difficult or maybe not possible but in case if you could figuir out how to fix:

* night green reticle(? is the English word?) of UZO and Scope which looks like modern optics

* Scopes can rotate unrealistically fast (angle movement, too)

(actually I'm saying the above not based on real information but on my common sense, excuse me if that's my imagination

)

* Cleaning my hydro guy's ear holes not possible?

That's my wishes but I'm not really hoping

I think the mod has reachead a mile stone. Just correct a few unimportant errors and glitches. New marchant ships are always nice, tho

12-23-06, 12:34 PM

I'm a big fan of NYGM and have just switched back from GWX as NYGM is my preferred mod.

One thing I really liked in GWX though is the way the u-Boat rolled based on sea state....very realistic. I would love to see that in NYGM....thats about it to be honest.

Cheers, Hans

12-22-06, 09:39 AM	#1
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	NYGM 3 Any release date for NYGM3 someone must know the real poop:p http://home.comcast.net/~codmander

12-22-06, 12:14 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Is something wrong with 2.3? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-22-06, 02:58 PM	#4
KLARCH Helmsman Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 106 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	Not from what I've seen. NYGM rocks. __________________ "There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy." - George Washington

12-22-06, 03:23 PM	#5
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	The way the world goes... something is just out, they all want something else already __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

12-22-06, 03:24 PM	#6
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	You for real with this thread? :hmm: Have you not heard that DTB and Observer have run off. __________________

12-22-06, 12:11 PM	#2
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	:rotfl:

12-22-06, 08:29 PM	#10
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I wonder where herr DTB is hiding. :hmm:

12-23-06, 03:31 AM	#11
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Don't see anyway why a version 3 would be needed, present version is doing the job for me... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

12-23-06, 04:51 AM	#12
jimmie Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 259 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	One thing I have been wondering is, Teddy Bear was working on "keel depth" mod, which makes various keel depth in relation to cargo load visually, and it just looked too awesome; then draft data in the rec manual is only reference and real draft would differ by the ship's load. He presented this while first NYGM ship damage mod was in a close test, when there was yet any of NYGM anything released, I guess it was about late November 2005. It was mentioned in SimHQ's then SH3 forum where he was the moderator of the forum at that time... I have not exclusively followed every discussion of NYGM thing but I have not seen this keel depth thing since then... Anyone knows if it was abandoned for a technical difficulty and all, perhaps?

12-23-06, 07:27 AM	#13
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	Concerning keel depths of ships: We had two ideas. 1. To create separate mods for every merchant ship with five different degrees of loading. This idea was hastily abandoned when we realised how many bytes every user would have to download: five versions of every merchant ship! (Check out the size of the existing single files). 2. To adopt a German idea in the campaign files, to lower the ship depths a little when laden, and to raise them when returning empty. There was a big snag with this. You had to lower the depths simultaneously of all the units in a group. So if you created heavy-laden convoy merchant ships, you also lowered the escorts. Then they sank. We could have adopted this idea for single merchants, but it seemed to be inconsistent to do it for some merchants sailing alone, but not for merchants in convoy. Also, there was no programmatic way we could work out which single ships should be travelling laden and which unladen. To do this manually for all single ships, when we couldn't apply it to the convoys, seemed to be an enormous and pointless labour. So we didn't do it. Stiebler.

12-23-06, 08:13 AM	#14
jimmie Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 259 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	That makes it very clear, thanks for detailed explanation. It's kinda sad, since it looked really amazing but I'd give up the idea for the same reason... I wonder how they set the torp depth in real life... they must have some inaccurate info about marchant ship data, then they had to judge the depth visually and it must have been tough, and moreover depth keeping device is not very reliable. I would stick with impact pistol if I were one of them. A couple things sorta on topic tho... I think it is very difficult or maybe not possible but in case if you could figuir out how to fix: * night green reticle(? is the English word?) of UZO and Scope which looks like modern optics * Scopes can rotate unrealistically fast (angle movement, too) (actually I'm saying the above not based on real information but on my common sense, excuse me if that's my imagination ) * Cleaning my hydro guy's ear holes not possible? That's my wishes but I'm not really hoping I think the mod has reachead a mile stone. Just correct a few unimportant errors and glitches. New marchant ships are always nice, tho

12-23-06, 12:34 PM	#15
Uber Gruber Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm a big fan of NYGM and have just switched back from GWX as NYGM is my preferred mod. One thing I really liked in GWX though is the way the u-Boat rolled based on sea state....very realistic. I would love to see that in NYGM....thats about it to be honest. Cheers, Hans