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Old 12-01-06, 05:08 PM   #1
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I remember back in the days of AOD I had a website that gave the operational orders for u-boats on a day to day basis. I printed out the orders for 1939 but the website I cannot find anymore. Does anyone know if it is archived anywhere or perhaps have a link?

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Old 12-01-06, 05:57 PM   #2
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Sorry to jump in on your thread Lansfeld. But I have an operation order I don't know what to do. It is Dec 10 1939 on my 4th patrol and my patrol grid is AM25. I got the following orders.

Primary Patrol area: Western Approach
Sneak into La Rochelle and attack the enemy ships there. Try to leave La Rochelle undetected, and avoid unnessary risks during this mission.

Am I supposed to follow this Mission?

Also, at Holy Loch I have warships, merchants and the Light Cruiser 'Bonaventure'

Now I don't know where Holy Loch is or La Rochelle are.
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Old 12-01-06, 07:17 PM   #3
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La Rochelle is on the coast of France (it's the port that is bombed in Das Boot) and Holy Loch is on the Firth of Clyde in Scotland.

Sounds like you're using SH3Gen. Those orders are for fun. There's no in-game reward or penalty if you accomplish them or don't. They're there to give you something else to do besides patrol a grid.
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Old 12-01-06, 07:32 PM   #4
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It is Dec 10 1939 on my 4th patrol
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How did you manage to be on your 4th patrol in only Dec 39 Rob ?

3x 28 days in port would take you to end of Nov without the patrol times
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It is Dec 10 1939 on my 4th patrol
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How did you manage to be on your 4th patrol in only Dec 39 Rob ?

3x 28 days in port would take you to end of Nov without the patrol times
Oops, my goof, looking at the wrong sheet, I got Dec by looking at the news sheet for the date . It is Jan 10, 1940.

But that's not the point of the post.

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La Rochelle is on the coast of France (it's the port that is bombed in Das Boot) and Holy Loch is on the Firth of Clyde in Scotland.

Sounds like you're using SH3Gen. Those orders are for fun. There's no in-game reward or penalty if you accomplish them or don't. They're there to give you something else to do besides patrol a grid.
Thank you very much mooniemookie. Are these ports easy to get into in 1940?
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Never tried La Rochelle when its in allied hands
Holy Loch is not impossible - I reckon its easier than Scapa
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Never tried La Rochelle when its in allied hands
Holy Loch is not impossible - I reckon its easier than Scapa
Thanks for the information bigboywooly. Now I think this thread should go back to the person who initiated it. I have the answers to my question.
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I've infiltrated Holy Loch when SH3Gen gave me the same orders. As bigboy said, it's not impossible. A couple minefields, a subnet, and gun emplacements on the hill overlooking the harbor.

I just found it wasn't worth the time and effort. If I remember correctly, it was something like a medium tanker, a docked DD and a couple assorted C2 cargos. Don't remember what year it was exactly. Probably '41. Sunk 'em all, made it out without a scratch. Kind of a "meh, so what" ordeal.

And yes, I will cease my thread hijacking. Apologies for that.
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I remember back in the days of AOD I had a website that gave the operational orders for u-boats on a day to day basis. I printed out the orders for 1939 but the website I cannot find anymore. Does anyone know if it is archived anywhere or perhaps have a link?

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Lanzfeld,

Now that your thread has been handed back to you is this the site you were looking for? http://www.uboatarchive.net/
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I was orderd to look for the battleship Ramsies . In the greenland sea , A big convoy showed up and what do you think Iam going for now ?
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I remember back in the days of AOD I had a website that gave the operational orders for u-boats on a day to day basis. I printed out the orders for 1939 but the website I cannot find anymore. Does anyone know if it is archived anywhere or perhaps have a link?

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You are probably talking about the U-Boaters Guide by Hans Abaddon. These pages have disappeared from the web long ago. I own a copy on my hard drive, however.

By coincidence, exactly these orders are included in Sh3Gen, the program that was brought into this discussion (though I don't see the connection). We have extended the original version with a lot of new orders, and even made a german translation. I have been in contact with Hans Abaddon, and he has long ago left the subsim community, actually he doesn't even play computer games anymore. He was kind enough to allow me to use his material, however.
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La Rochelle is on the coast of France (it's the port that is bombed in Das Boot) and Holy Loch is on the Firth of Clyde in Scotland.

Sounds like you're using SH3Gen. Those orders are for fun. There's no in-game reward or penalty if you accomplish them or don't. They're there to give you something else to do besides patrol a grid.
With the exception of the monthly standing orders, all orders in Sh3Gen are based on real data from the campaign files, so I find your statement a bit misleading. I say this, because it required some effort to write a program that can analyze the campaign data. Writing something that generates orders "for fun" would have been possible in one or two nights.
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Thanks for the info Globel. Any chance you could send them to me?
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Thanks for the info Globel. Any chance you could send them to me?
Please send an email adress to mail@christian-wendt.org and I will send to you what I find.
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