No Bold I and II Decoys...Why Not!

silentwayIII · 11-24-06, 05:25 PM

I'm in mid 43 using an IXD2 and using NYGM 2.2. In the equipment screen before my last patrol I had clicked on decoys and dbl clicked on Bold I. Confiirmed I wanted it and went on patrol. When I needed to use the decoys, I was told "decoys not available." I checked the CE/propulsion/decoy icon...it was greyed out. Made it back to base, re-fitted the boat out for my next patrol. Went to the equipment screen, selected Decoy's. Bold II's were now available. I decided to try it again. Clicked on Bold II, confirmed I wanted them. Took off on my mission. 30k outside of Lorient I dove and tried the J button for decoys dispensing. "No decoys available" was the message.

According to the ? button and screen Bold I was available in 42 and Bold II in mid 43. Its now July shouldn't I have access to at least the Bold I. WHAT GIVES. Any and all help on this matter is appreciated.

SilentwayIII

11-24-06, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentwayIII

I'm in mid 43 using an IXD2 and using NYGM 2.2. In the equipment screen before my last patrol I had clicked on decoys and dbl clicked on Bold I. Confiirmed I wanted it and went on patrol. When I needed to use the decoys, I was told "decoys not available." I checked the CE/propulsion/decoy icon...it was greyed out. Made it back to base, re-fitted the boat out for my next patrol. Went to the equipment screen, selected Decoy's. Bold II's were now available. I decided to try it again. Clicked on Bold II, confirmed I wanted them. Took off on my mission. 30k outside of Lorient I dove and tried the J button for decoys dispensing. "No decoys available" was the message.

According to the ? button and screen Bold I was available in 42 and Bold II in mid 43. Its now July shouldn't I have access to at least the Bold I. WHAT GIVES. Any and all help on this matter is appreciated.

SilentwayIII

Are you running SH3 Commander?

Krupp · 11-24-06, 06:15 PM

Same here...

July 1942, I took Bold 1 in my IXC and started from Lorient, no Bold in the boat when patrol started. I don't even get a message and the decoy button is greyed out.

Tried 3 times and then I decided to leave without it.

NYGM 2.2 also, sh3 commander, skins, 3d-waves...

Respenus · 11-24-06, 06:18 PM

Looks like a NYGM problem.

Der Teddy Bear?

silentwayIII · 11-24-06, 08:30 PM

Albrecht: I'm not using SHCommander. Have only added something new a skin, but the problem has existed for a least two weeks beginning with my last two patrols. Would be great to sort out being how important decoys are in mid 43. I also get the "Sonar Destroyed" message right after I open a saved game during the last two patrols.

I'll go back to a late 1942 patrol save, when bold I became available and see if the icon is greyed out and indeed there are no decoys available.

SilentwayIII

Stiebler · 11-25-06, 07:24 AM

The absence of Bold is a known error in NYGM 2.2, affecting some U-boats only (mostly Type IX, I believe).

The problem lies with file data\cfg\basic.cfg. It is rather difficult to explain, but if you search through that file you will find a lot of references to:
Subsx1=PropellerFort
Subsx2=PropellerStarboard
Subsx3=Decoy_Launcher
where 'x' is a number between 1 and 9 (I can't remember the exact numbers, and it doesn't affect all of them).

These occurrences should be changed to:
Subsx0=PropellerFort
Subsx1=PropellerStarboard
Subsx2=Decoy_Launcher

Sorry about that. If you want to attempt to fix this problem yourself, be sure to make a back-up copy of your original basic.cfg.

Otherwise, there will be a fix with the next update of NYGM.
[Actually, I believe DTB made a patch for this fault, available at Wolves at War (see signature). However, I can't find it.]

Stiebler.

NYGM Tonnage War Mod - more than a mod; it's an experience!

zzsteven · 11-25-06, 10:32 AM

Thanks Stiebler, it was an easy fix.

Scroll down to [SUBMARINE2], scroll to Comp8=8, change these:

Comp8=8; SternTorpedo
Nb8=3
Subs80=PropellerFort; ------------------------------------Renumber these
PropellerFort=22; E_PropellerFort,
TimeRecovery80=3; ---------------------------------------
Subs81=PropellerStarboard; ------------------------------
PropellerStarboard=23; E_PropellerStarboard,
TimeRecovery81=3; ---------------------------------------
Subs82=Decoy_Launcher; ----------------------------------
Decoy_Launcher=42; E_Decoy_Launcher
TimeRecovery82=1; ---------------------------------------

Click File and save. Roll back Commander first!!!!!

zz

Stiebler · 11-25-06, 02:58 PM

zzSteven is correct, but there is another change to make:

Comp7=7; SternQuarters
Nb7=4
Subs71=PropellerFort --- change to 70
PropellerFort=22; E_PropellerPort,
TimeRecovery71=3 --- change to 70
Subs72=PropellerStarboard --- change to 71
PropellerStarboard=23; E_PropellerStarboard,
TimeRecovery72=3 --- change to 71
Subs73=Decoy_Launcher --- change to 72
Decoy_Launcher=42; E_Decoy_Launcher
TimeRecovery73=1 --- change to 72

Stiebler.

Corsair · 11-25-06, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiebler

zzSteven is correct, but there is another change to make:

Comp7=7; SternQuarters
Nb7=4
Subs71=PropellerFort --- change to 70
PropellerFort=22; E_PropellerPort,
TimeRecovery71=3 --- change to 70
Subs72=PropellerStarboard --- change to 71
PropellerStarboard=23; E_PropellerStarboard,
TimeRecovery72=3 --- change to 71
Subs73=Decoy_Launcher --- change to 72
Decoy_Launcher=42; E_Decoy_Launcher
TimeRecovery73=1 --- change to 72

Stiebler.

Just had a look and under Submarine 2 my comp 7 looks like this :

Comp7=7; SternQuarters
Nb7=1
Subs70=AftBatteries
AftBatteries=17; E_AftBatteries
TimeRecovery70=3

???

or are you talking of another place ? The only place where I find this string is under Submarine 0 which Ithought was the Type II ?

PS : or may be you mean we should do the same change for the type II if some guys like to go around in the tin can late in the war ?

zzsteven · 11-25-06, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiebler

zzSteven is correct, but there is another change to make:

Comp7=7; SternQuarters
Nb7=4
Subs71=PropellerFort --- change to 70
PropellerFort=22; E_PropellerPort,
TimeRecovery71=3 --- change to 70
Subs72=PropellerStarboard --- change to 71
PropellerStarboard=23; E_PropellerStarboard,
TimeRecovery72=3 --- change to 71
Subs73=Decoy_Launcher --- change to 72
Decoy_Launcher=42; E_Decoy_Launcher
TimeRecovery73=1 --- change to 72

Stiebler.

Yes, saw and corrected that when fixing the type IX. There is one more correction to that file: Nb7=3 not 4.

@Cosair Yes this is for the type II [Submarine0]

zz

Corsair · 11-25-06, 04:36 PM

Thks mate, all clear now...

I never drive the type II, but never know, may be one day I will fall in love with it...

silentwayIII · 11-25-06, 10:25 PM

Thanks guys for all of the help. It sure is nice having the decoys.

SilentwayIII

Stiebler · 11-26-06, 04:50 AM

@zzSteven:

Quote:

Yes, saw and corrected that when fixing the type IX. There is one more correction to that file: Nb7=3 not 4.

Well spotted, thanks. I'll have to fix that too.

Stiebler.

11-24-06, 05:25 PM	#1
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	No Bold I and II Decoys...Why Not! I'm in mid 43 using an IXD2 and using NYGM 2.2. In the equipment screen before my last patrol I had clicked on decoys and dbl clicked on Bold I. Confiirmed I wanted it and went on patrol. When I needed to use the decoys, I was told "decoys not available." I checked the CE/propulsion/decoy icon...it was greyed out. Made it back to base, re-fitted the boat out for my next patrol. Went to the equipment screen, selected Decoy's. Bold II's were now available. I decided to try it again. Clicked on Bold II, confirmed I wanted them. Took off on my mission. 30k outside of Lorient I dove and tried the J button for decoys dispensing. "No decoys available" was the message. According to the ? button and screen Bold I was available in 42 and Bold II in mid 43. Its now July shouldn't I have access to at least the Bold I. WHAT GIVES. Any and all help on this matter is appreciated. SilentwayIII

11-24-06, 06:15 PM	#3
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same here... July 1942, I took Bold 1 in my IXC and started from Lorient, no Bold in the boat when patrol started. I don't even get a message and the decoy button is greyed out. Tried 3 times and then I decided to leave without it. NYGM 2.2 also, sh3 commander, skins, 3d-waves... __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

11-24-06, 06:18 PM	#4
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looks like a NYGM problem. Der Teddy Bear? __________________

11-25-06, 04:36 PM	#11
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Thks mate, all clear now... I never drive the type II, but never know, may be one day I will fall in love with it... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

11-24-06, 08:30 PM	#5
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Albrecht: I'm not using SHCommander. Have only added something new a skin, but the problem has existed for a least two weeks beginning with my last two patrols. Would be great to sort out being how important decoys are in mid 43. I also get the "Sonar Destroyed" message right after I open a saved game during the last two patrols. I'll go back to a late 1942 patrol save, when bold I became available and see if the icon is greyed out and indeed there are no decoys available. SilentwayIII

11-25-06, 07:24 AM	#6
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	The absence of Bold is a known error in NYGM 2.2, affecting some U-boats only (mostly Type IX, I believe). The problem lies with file data\cfg\basic.cfg. It is rather difficult to explain, but if you search through that file you will find a lot of references to: Subsx1=PropellerFort Subsx2=PropellerStarboard Subsx3=Decoy_Launcher where 'x' is a number between 1 and 9 (I can't remember the exact numbers, and it doesn't affect all of them). These occurrences should be changed to: Subsx0=PropellerFort Subsx1=PropellerStarboard Subsx2=Decoy_Launcher Sorry about that. If you want to attempt to fix this problem yourself, be sure to make a back-up copy of your original basic.cfg. Otherwise, there will be a fix with the next update of NYGM. [Actually, I believe DTB made a patch for this fault, available at Wolves at War (see signature). However, I can't find it.] Stiebler. NYGM Tonnage War Mod - more than a mod; it's an experience!

11-25-06, 10:32 AM	#7
zzsteven Chief Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 319 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks Stiebler, it was an easy fix. Scroll down to [SUBMARINE2], scroll to Comp8=8, change these: Comp8=8; SternTorpedo Nb8=3 Subs80=PropellerFort; ------------------------------------Renumber these PropellerFort=22; E_PropellerFort, TimeRecovery80=3; --------------------------------------- Subs81=PropellerStarboard; ------------------------------ PropellerStarboard=23; E_PropellerStarboard, TimeRecovery81=3; --------------------------------------- Subs82=Decoy_Launcher; ---------------------------------- Decoy_Launcher=42; E_Decoy_Launcher TimeRecovery82=1; --------------------------------------- Click File and save. Roll back Commander first!!!!! zz

11-25-06, 02:58 PM	#8
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	zzSteven is correct, but there is another change to make: Comp7=7; SternQuarters Nb7=4 Subs71=PropellerFort --- change to 70 PropellerFort=22; E_PropellerPort, TimeRecovery71=3 --- change to 70 Subs72=PropellerStarboard --- change to 71 PropellerStarboard=23; E_PropellerStarboard, TimeRecovery72=3 --- change to 71 Subs73=Decoy_Launcher --- change to 72 Decoy_Launcher=42; E_Decoy_Launcher TimeRecovery73=1 --- change to 72 Stiebler.

11-25-06, 10:25 PM	#12
silentwayIII Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys for all of the help. It sure is nice having the decoys. SilentwayIII