HedgeHogs .. and you!

wamphyri · 11-20-06, 03:13 AM

I've played numerous campaigns in vanilla sh3 and I've yet to see the hedgehog. I'd play the numerous mods but i have dialup and I don't relish the idea of downloading something the size of the GW mod.

So what year do they appear??

wamphyri

bill clarke · 11-20-06, 03:24 AM

Hedgehog, also known as an Anti-Submarine Projector entered service in 1943.
Hedgehog was replaced by the more effective Squid mortar in 1943 and this in turn was replaced by the three-barreled Limbo. The United States produced a similar weapon called Mousetrap.

P_Funk · 11-20-06, 03:39 AM

I remember a great thread many months ago when someone posted pics of a hedgehog attack.

It was a real news storm. Damn its a rare occurence.

Incubus · 11-20-06, 03:53 AM

In my '44 career, I have DDs use them all the time against me. They're really annoying because if they go off above you, you're pretty much screwed. They sink fast and explode on contact.

You can tell they are using them because they make this DEAFENING sound when launched.

HunterICX · 11-20-06, 03:58 AM

I,ve met Flowers late war that has them too.

I was busy with a convoy when I heard something close...I looked around saw the bow of the Flower and I saw that he was shooting a ring of death , well at least where I was floating (PD). I took the whole package....Got rammed afterwards and Depth charged ... my IXD2 managed to repair the flooding but the flower and his pesky friends came again and sunk me too the bottom..

Hedgehog best anti tactic , stay undetected!:rotfl:

hyperion2206 · 11-20-06, 04:27 AM

I understand that the Hedgehog is fired in an elliptic or U-shape form,right? Wouldn't it possible to go back emergency as soon as you hear them launch and thus not being hit?:hmm:

HunterICX · 11-20-06, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

I understand that the Hedgehog is fired in an elliptic or U-shape form,right? Wouldn't it possible to go back emergency as soon as you hear them launch and thus not being hit?:hmm:

For my understanding what I have seen in Docs and Film pieces of the ww2 era that they have been fired in a ring-shape.

11-20-06, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

I understand that the Hedgehog is fired in an elliptic or U-shape form,right? Wouldn't it possible to go back emergency as soon as you hear them launch and thus not being hit?:hmm:

Realistically speaking, you'd never hear them launch. And you'd be extraordinarily lucky to hear them hit the water for that matter. Normally the first (and only) indication that you'd had a hedgehog attack launched at you was the explosion when one impacted your hull.

Also, their pattern was either circular or elliptical.

(See here for an excellent description of the weapon: http://www.de220.com/Armament/Hedgehog/Hedgehog.htm )

ArtieEngineer · 11-20-06, 04:46 AM

Ring shape in the game. I try to hit flank speed and turn hard when I think he is making his run. Sometimes works to avoid one or two sets. Soon as he drops his presents I go back to dead slow and change direction and depth.

con20or · 11-20-06, 06:14 AM

I only saw them once and that was the the last thing I saw that mission

Found this on Wikipedia

Variants

Mark 10: elliptical pattern measuring about 140 x 120 feet to a range of 200 yards
Mark 11: circular pattern measuring 200 feet in diameter out to a range of about 188 yards.
Mark 15: pattern as for the Mark 11 but mounted on a platform adapted from that of a quadruple 40 mm Bofors gun mount. The Mark 15 could be fired remotely from the ship's plotting roo

So everyones right!! Especially me

kiwi_2005 · 11-20-06, 07:24 AM

Try one of the single missions if you want to get a grip on what the hedgehog can do. When they hit they HIT! Especially if your at periscope depth further down tho they dont do damage.

con20or · 11-20-06, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

further down tho they dont do damage.

??? The damage is worse if anything because your deeper. Or do you mean they probably wont hit you?

Great Sig kiwi, where'd you get the pic?

kiwi_2005 · 11-20-06, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

further down tho they dont do damage.

??? The damage is worse if anything because your deeper. Or do you mean they probably wont hit you?

Great Sig kiwi, where'd you get the pic?

Yep i meant deeper they wont hit you as they usually cause more damage at periscope depth (hegdehogs)

Got the Sig from a snap shot i took of "Enigma" movie.
Go here to see snap shots from the movie - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101075

con20or · 11-20-06, 09:41 AM

Ive read the book, the movie looks half watchable. Are there much at sea uboat scenes?? I know Kate Winslet is in it, i'd nearly watch it just for that.

Konovalov · 11-20-06, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by con20or

Ive read the book, the movie looks half watchable. Are there much at sea uboat scenes?? I know Kate Winslet is in it, i'd nearly watch it just for that.

She is made to look geeky looking in it if I remember correctly.

11-20-06, 03:13 AM	#1
wamphyri Lieutenant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 260 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	HedgeHogs .. and you! I've played numerous campaigns in vanilla sh3 and I've yet to see the hedgehog. I'd play the numerous mods but i have dialup and I don't relish the idea of downloading something the size of the GW mod. So what year do they appear?? wamphyri

11-20-06, 03:39 AM	#3
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	I remember a great thread many months ago when someone posted pics of a hedgehog attack. It was a real news storm. Damn its a rare occurence. __________________

11-20-06, 03:58 AM	#5
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I,ve met Flowers late war that has them too. I was busy with a convoy when I heard something close...I looked around saw the bow of the Flower and I saw that he was shooting a ring of death , well at least where I was floating (PD). I took the whole package....Got rammed afterwards and Depth charged ... my IXD2 managed to repair the flooding but the flower and his pesky friends came again and sunk me too the bottom.. Hedgehog best anti tactic , stay undetected!:rotfl: __________________

11-20-06, 06:14 AM	#10
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I only saw them once and that was the the last thing I saw that mission Found this on Wikipedia Variants Mark 10: elliptical pattern measuring about 140 x 120 feet to a range of 200 yards Mark 11: circular pattern measuring 200 feet in diameter out to a range of about 188 yards. Mark 15: pattern as for the Mark 11 but mounted on a platform adapted from that of a quadruple 40 mm Bofors gun mount. The Mark 15 could be fired remotely from the ship's plotting roo So everyones right!! Especially me __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

11-20-06, 07:24 AM	#11
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Try one of the single missions if you want to get a grip on what the hedgehog can do. When they hit they HIT! Especially if your at periscope depth further down tho they dont do damage. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

11-20-06, 03:24 AM	#2
bill clarke Captain Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW Australia Posts: 519 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Hedgehog, also known as an Anti-Submarine Projector entered service in 1943. Hedgehog was replaced by the more effective Squid mortar in 1943 and this in turn was replaced by the three-barreled Limbo. The United States produced a similar weapon called Mousetrap.

11-20-06, 03:53 AM	#4
Incubus Planesman Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 195 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In my '44 career, I have DDs use them all the time against me. They're really annoying because if they go off above you, you're pretty much screwed. They sink fast and explode on contact. You can tell they are using them because they make this DEAFENING sound when launched.

11-20-06, 04:27 AM	#6
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I understand that the Hedgehog is fired in an elliptic or U-shape form,right? Wouldn't it possible to go back emergency as soon as you hear them launch and thus not being hit?:hmm:

11-20-06, 04:46 AM	#9
ArtieEngineer Nub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ring shape in the game. I try to hit flank speed and turn hard when I think he is making his run. Sometimes works to avoid one or two sets. Soon as he drops his presents I go back to dead slow and change direction and depth.

11-20-06, 09:41 AM	#14
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Ive read the book, the movie looks half watchable. Are there much at sea uboat scenes?? I know Kate Winslet is in it, i'd nearly watch it just for that. __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!