just about to give up again

l3th4l · 11-07-06, 03:59 PM

i was looking forward to some nice relaxing sub action after being away from the game for some time. i figuered (sp?) with all the great work the community has put into this program it'll be a blast but now i'm getting really frustrated:

i have been forced to restart a new campaign COUNTLESS times because of different things; first time was because i didn't remember that you can't delete old savegames without loosing all newer ones as well (although that can be avoided so it only happened once). then there were several occations where my savegames have become corrupted: once i decided to call it a night and continue the next day only to find my boat in a free fall sinking like 150m in less than 10 seconds and being destroyed as it reached the maximum depth. other times i reload my savegame and i find myself on a completely different depth than before (wich can resut in crashing into something).

now i just started a new campaign and was sailing through the channel (which was *swarming* with english warships in 1939?) at around 17-20 meters going silent and suddenly i'm dead - no warning whatsoever. so i decide to quit for a while until my frustration passes and then try again (I've made a new savegame everytime i saved just to be sure). now a few minutes ago i decided to give it another shot only to find that ALL my savegames are gone! the savegame files are still in the sh3 folder in my documents but sh3 seems to ignore them. WTF?

anyways i hope somebody can help me - i'm not sure if i have the patience to start yet another career (only to find it broken after a while)...

i am running sh3 1.4b with the latest GW mod installed.

AVGWarhawk · 11-07-06, 04:05 PM

Ok, first of all. Did you put in GW mod? Was it a clean install...I MEAN CLEAN!!! you must get rid of everything. Use search to get the orphan folders. Get rid of the fold in MY DOCUMENTS. GET RID OF EVERYTHING! Reinstall and install patch 1.4b (make sure it is the correct patch there are 4 to choose from) then install GW mod. You should have no problem. As far as the channel, stay away...bad now even in 1939. Also, sounds like you hit a mine while in the channel. GW puts mines in the ports and such. These can ruin a whole day! Captain you boat as if this was for real and you should be fine!

stabiz · 11-07-06, 04:06 PM

:rotfl:I dont mean to laugh, but I cant help it! We have all been there, and what you are suffering can easily be fixed.

*Never save submerged, and/or in the vicinity of ports or enemies. If you follow these steps you can have one carreer for as long as you want. I`ve never - yes NEVER - experienced carreer problems after somebody told me this.

*What killed you in the channel is a mine. They are supposed to be there, to keep kaleuns such as yourself out of Churchills front yard.

AVGWarhawk · 11-07-06, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

:rotfl:I dont mean to laugh, but I cant help it! We have all been there, and what you are suffering can easily be fixed.

*Never save submerged, and/or in the vicinity of ports or enemies. If you follow these steps you can have one carreer for as long as you want. I`ve never - yes NEVER - experienced carreer problems after somebody told me this.

*What killed you in the channel is a mine. They are supposed to be there, to keep kaleuns such as yourself out of Churchills front yard.

I find that odd because I have saved both submerged and under a convoy with destroyers actively tail grabb'in me. I have never had an issue. Only once did a save become corrupted. Do you mean a quick save and resume the game or save and quit the game until later? The reason I ask because I never do quick saves. Never had too as my CPU does not crash or do other assorted nonsense to make me conduct quick saves.

stabiz · 11-07-06, 04:39 PM

I mean any save. One day it will bite you in the backside, avg, it has to so many others. Its not that hard to adjust to this really, I actually dont even think about it anymore. Calm seas on the surface, no contacts in range - save. (The bit about calm seas is not important, just an effect, hehe)

robbo180265 · 11-07-06, 04:41 PM

I've had both these things happen to me. The first was deleting an old save and losing the lot - how cr*p is that? Why didn't they warn us? Why offer the option if it's going to screw up all the saved games?

I've also had the "dropping like a stone until you're all killed" effect as well, and I wasn't submerged when I saved either.

I'm carrying on with the game, but honestly these bugs suck!!

l3th4l · 11-07-06, 04:44 PM

wow, you two were fast

thanks for taking the time.

yes it was a complete reinstall (no leftover folders - even cleaned up the registry).

as for your gameplay suggestions: what are areas you should avoid because of mines? i'm sure the captains those days had some general knowledge about which areas to avoid because of minefields? did they always sail all the way around the north of england to get to the atlantic?

edit: waited too long to push the post button again

thanks to ALL of you

AVGWarhawk · 11-07-06, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

I've had both these things happen to me. The first was deleting an old save and losing the lot - how cr*p is that? Why didn't they warn us? Why offer the option if it's going to screw up all the saved games?

I've also had the "dropping like a stone until you're all killed" effect as well, and I wasn't submerged when I saved either.

I'm carrying on with the game, but honestly these bugs suck!!

True they suck but, once you get into a game and understand the stupid little bugs....you will not care because this game become a drug and you will do anything to keep it going

AVGWarhawk · 11-07-06, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l3th4l

wow, you two were fast

thanks for taking the time.

yes it was a complete reinstall (no leftover folders - even cleaned up the registry).

as for your gameplay suggestions: what are areas you should avoid because of mines? i'm sure the captains those days had some general knowledge about which areas to avoid because of minefields? did they always sail all the way around the north of england to get to the atlantic?

edit: waited too lond to push the post button again

thanks to ALL of you

Thats what this forum is about

Stay out of the channel...period! Go around the north tip of England. Ports have mines also so you enter at your own risk. ENJOY!

AVGWarhawk · 11-07-06, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

I mean any save. One day it will bite you in the backside, avg, it has to so many others. Its not that hard to adjust to this really, I actually dont even think about it anymore. Calm seas on the surface, no contacts in range - save. (The bit about calm seas is not important, just an effect, hehe)

I only did a save like that one and I guess I escaped this bug. Usually I do not save insight of destroyers. I usually do save around merchants weather going down or I'm planning my attack...hell sometimes the wife calls for something other than putting out the trash and got to save

stabiz · 11-07-06, 04:51 PM

Yes. ports have mines too. You can spot them with free cam (if you use that), or by raising the periscope just a little bit.

I dont go through the channel anymore, not just because of mines. The brits have 1 million destroyers and their little friends.

Here`s a pic:

kylania · 11-07-06, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

I dont go through the channel anymore, not just because of mines. The brits have 1 million destroyers and their little friends.

Here I am trying to get through the channel as well.. you can't see it but there's 5 other escorts attacking me and 3 other mines in visual range. Plenty more beyond that.

l3th4l · 11-07-06, 05:59 PM

another question: i've been pondering to install sh3gen and/or sh3 weather. are there any complications i can expect?

AVGWarhawk · 11-07-06, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by l3th4l

another question: i've been pondering to install sh3gen and/or sh3 weather. are there any complications i can expect?

Here was my greeting card around Calais. I was hating life at this point. I had already hit a mine. No hydrophone or periscopes. I was blind and deaf. I believe I was saved by the cannon as this was bent and destroyed along with the conning tower. I do not believe you will have any issue with these mods you are considering. You can always ask in the mod forum to be sure!

robbo180265 · 11-08-06, 03:34 PM

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True they suck but, once you get into a game and understand the stupid little bugs....you will not care because this game become a drug and you will do anything to keep it going

You are so very right I'm totaly hooked already. I just think it's shamefull that these companies charge money (and quite a bit sometimes) for a half finished product. If I was to behave like that at work .... well we know the rest don't we?

Anyway as I said I love the game and can't wait to get back to it

11-07-06, 03:59 PM	#1
l3th4l Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 180 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	just about to give up again i was looking forward to some nice relaxing sub action after being away from the game for some time. i figuered (sp?) with all the great work the community has put into this program it'll be a blast but now i'm getting really frustrated: i have been forced to restart a new campaign COUNTLESS times because of different things; first time was because i didn't remember that you can't delete old savegames without loosing all newer ones as well (although that can be avoided so it only happened once). then there were several occations where my savegames have become corrupted: once i decided to call it a night and continue the next day only to find my boat in a free fall sinking like 150m in less than 10 seconds and being destroyed as it reached the maximum depth. other times i reload my savegame and i find myself on a completely different depth than before (wich can resut in crashing into something). now i just started a new campaign and was sailing through the channel (which was swarming with english warships in 1939?) at around 17-20 meters going silent and suddenly i'm dead - no warning whatsoever. so i decide to quit for a while until my frustration passes and then try again (I've made a new savegame everytime i saved just to be sure). now a few minutes ago i decided to give it another shot only to find that ALL my savegames are gone! the savegame files are still in the sh3 folder in my documents but sh3 seems to ignore them. WTF? anyways i hope somebody can help me - i'm not sure if i have the patience to start yet another career (only to find it broken after a while)... i am running sh3 1.4b with the latest GW mod installed. Last edited by l3th4l; 11-07-06 at 04:03 PM.

11-07-06, 04:05 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Ok, first of all. Did you put in GW mod? Was it a clean install...I MEAN CLEAN!!! you must get rid of everything. Use search to get the orphan folders. Get rid of the fold in MY DOCUMENTS. GET RID OF EVERYTHING! Reinstall and install patch 1.4b (make sure it is the correct patch there are 4 to choose from) then install GW mod. You should have no problem. As far as the channel, stay away...bad now even in 1939. Also, sounds like you hit a mine while in the channel. GW puts mines in the ports and such. These can ruin a whole day! Captain you boat as if this was for real and you should be fine! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-07-06, 04:06 PM	#3
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	:rotfl:I dont mean to laugh, but I cant help it! We have all been there, and what you are suffering can easily be fixed. Never save submerged, and/or in the vicinity of ports or enemies. If you follow these steps you can have one carreer for as long as you want. I`ve never - yes NEVER - experienced carreer problems after somebody told me this. What killed you in the channel is a mine. They are supposed to be there, to keep kaleuns such as yourself out of Churchills front yard. __________________

11-07-06, 04:39 PM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I mean any save. One day it will bite you in the backside, avg, it has to so many others. Its not that hard to adjust to this really, I actually dont even think about it anymore. Calm seas on the surface, no contacts in range - save. (The bit about calm seas is not important, just an effect, hehe) __________________

11-07-06, 04:44 PM	#7
l3th4l Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 180 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	wow, you two were fast thanks for taking the time. yes it was a complete reinstall (no leftover folders - even cleaned up the registry). as for your gameplay suggestions: what are areas you should avoid because of mines? i'm sure the captains those days had some general knowledge about which areas to avoid because of minefields? did they always sail all the way around the north of england to get to the atlantic? edit: waited too long to push the post button again thanks to ALL of you Last edited by l3th4l; 11-07-06 at 04:53 PM.

11-07-06, 04:41 PM	#6
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	I've had both these things happen to me. The first was deleting an old save and losing the lot - how cr*p is that? Why didn't they warn us? Why offer the option if it's going to screw up all the saved games? I've also had the "dropping like a stone until you're all killed" effect as well, and I wasn't submerged when I saved either. I'm carrying on with the game, but honestly these bugs suck!!

11-07-06, 04:51 PM	#11
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yes. ports have mines too. You can spot them with free cam (if you use that), or by raising the periscope just a little bit. I dont go through the channel anymore, not just because of mines. The brits have 1 million destroyers and their little friends. Here`s a pic: __________________ Last edited by stabiz; 11-07-06 at 04:53 PM.

11-07-06, 05:59 PM	#13
l3th4l Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 180 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	another question: i've been pondering to install sh3gen and/or sh3 weather. are there any complications i can expect?