Whiskey on the rocks your theorys

Kapitan · 10-27-06, 06:02 PM

Back in 1982 a ancient whiskey class submarine ran aground in swedish waters, many theorys have come out about how it happend what i would like to know i what you think about this issue.

So what do you guys think happend?

Linton · 10-27-06, 06:08 PM

What took place in Swedish waters in the 1980s is far from straight forward but I would be looking in a westerly direction for an answer!
http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/research/.../Tunander2.pdf

Linton · 10-27-06, 06:21 PM

A picture of the submarine.Note Viggen of the Swedish air force overhead!!

Linton · 10-27-06, 06:54 PM

The same boat now??

August · 10-27-06, 10:02 PM

The whiskey should be chilled before pouring over the ice.... oh er wait wrong whiskey...

d@rk51d3 · 10-28-06, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by August

The whiskey should be chilled before pouring over the ice.... oh er wait wrong whiskey...

Yeah, got me too.

I was hoping for a little Jameson on ice.

STEED · 10-28-06, 06:37 AM

whiskey, yummy

hang on it's not the drink

but this is a Kap thread so it must be booze.

Wait a minute I forgot Kap is in to subs as well.

The Avon Lady · 11-11-06, 02:46 PM

No, I'm anything but a scotch maven.

This is about the cold war and Swedish neutrality conspiracies. I hope SubSimmers find it interesting.

Kapitan · 11-12-06, 11:30 AM

Sweden was in no way nutrel they passed alot of info to NATO

Linton · 11-12-06, 02:21 PM

Sweden during the eighties had a left wing government which caused concern to NATO and its own military.Throughout the period there were a number of submarine incursions which were initially blamed on the CCCP.However a lot of current thinking would suggest the real culprit was the USN/RN.See my link above to the site written by Ole Tunander and his book.Some of you may remember a German Luftwaffe unit called KG200.They operated allied aircraft against the allies-procuring a whiskey would have been relatively straightforward.As well as pushing the Swedes towards NATO it would have raised questions in the Kremlin regarding the loyalty of the Soviet submarine force.This was only ten years after an incident with a soviet warship that went renegade!Make your own minds up-my bet was on the west rather than east.

joea · 11-13-06, 05:53 AM

Meh, both sides got up to tricks like that. I know the website AL linked to, it's a partner organisation of the one I work for and it's pretty good lots of reliable info and usually objective.

10-27-06, 06:02 PM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Whiskey on the rocks your theorys Back in 1982 a ancient whiskey class submarine ran aground in swedish waters, many theorys have come out about how it happend what i would like to know i what you think about this issue. So what do you guys think happend? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

10-27-06, 06:08 PM	#2
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What took place in Swedish waters in the 1980s is far from straight forward but I would be looking in a westerly direction for an answer! http://www.isn.ethz.ch/php/research/.../Tunander2.pdf __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Linton; 10-27-06 at 06:12 PM.

10-27-06, 06:21 PM	#3
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A picture of the submarine.Note Viggen of the Swedish air force overhead!! __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/ Last edited by Linton; 10-28-06 at 10:53 AM.

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Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The same boat now?? __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The whiskey should be chilled before pouring over the ice.... oh er wait wrong whiskey... __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

10-28-06, 06:37 AM	#7
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	whiskey, yummy hang on it's not the drink but this is a Kap thread so it must be booze. Wait a minute I forgot Kap is in to subs as well. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

11-11-06, 02:46 PM	#8
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Whiskey on the rocks, 25 years old No, I'm anything but a scotch maven. This is about the cold war and Swedish neutrality conspiracies. I hope SubSimmers find it interesting. __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

11-12-06, 11:30 AM	#9
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Sweden was in no way nutrel they passed alot of info to NATO __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-12-06, 02:21 PM	#10
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sweden during the eighties had a left wing government which caused concern to NATO and its own military.Throughout the period there were a number of submarine incursions which were initially blamed on the CCCP.However a lot of current thinking would suggest the real culprit was the USN/RN.See my link above to the site written by Ole Tunander and his book.Some of you may remember a German Luftwaffe unit called KG200.They operated allied aircraft against the allies-procuring a whiskey would have been relatively straightforward.As well as pushing the Swedes towards NATO it would have raised questions in the Kremlin regarding the loyalty of the Soviet submarine force.This was only ten years after an incident with a soviet warship that went renegade!Make your own minds up-my bet was on the west rather than east. __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

11-13-06, 05:53 AM	#11
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Meh, both sides got up to tricks like that. I know the website AL linked to, it's a partner organisation of the one I work for and it's pretty good lots of reliable info and usually objective.