[REL] Dark Waters

[Jeff-Groves]

Here ya go.

http://www.navalgrid.com/

[propbeanie]

That's the one!

[Bubblehead1980]

Thanks for all the answers, the SH 4 world including the KM map in DW does not exactly correspond to the real world positions in documentation, unfortunately.. SH 4 earth is flat etc.

I was hoping to load it in ME , so could accurately place convoys and have proper corresponding sighting reports etc.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

There is a web site, which I cannot find just now (my "search" skills have apparently deteriorated), that describes the grid's layout in lat/long terms for some of the major divides, and describes the distances between the lines... You can then use the bottom border of the ME to see your mouse pointer's lat/long location, and do some "rough" routing that way. Note though, that there were some missions lurker did, as well as several that we did with Fifi that are off by several kilometers, and sometimes hundreds of kilometers, so that is why some of the "orders" text is not accurate. Some are due to the grid system and its idiosyncrasies, and others are due to math calculation issues ( ) on the part of the modders... Sometimes, you just have to guess, then run the mission, see where everything is, and then go back into the mis / tsr file and change the text to match the actual game display, or vice versa... One final point, lurker did a LOT of 'historical' convoys in there, so look really close at their GroupNames and make certain he hasn't already done the heavy lifting, and all you need to do is add-in a few AI subs. I do not recall if he put the documentation of the convoys in the mod the way he did RSRDC, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did. Look in the Documentatioin and Support folders of OM. The Documentation folder is NOT transferred to the game folders path the way Data and Support are, but would only be found in the mod folder.

Yes, aware of the "in game" coordinates displayed at bottom of screen. Problem I noticed when creating TMO is those coordinates do not always correspond to real world positions due to the differences in the SH 4 map and real Earth.


I've looked all through the traffic layers in DW and far as I can tell Lurker did not do the historic convoys in North Atlantic layers I am working on. They are all random generated groups that spawn every so many hours with a 70-80 percent chance to spawn. The readme mentioned due to the scale/number of convoys he did not take the RSRD approach. In the Arctic convoy layers, some are historic, spawn only one once etc but in the Atlantic Convoys traffic layers (Lant Convoys 41 for example) they are all random groups. I am adding historic as I did in TMO where they spawn once. Currently working on HX 72 in September 1940 and then want to add HX 79 and SC-7 in October 1940. Want to add the sighting reports etc and set the AI subs up to be present. Although at this time don't have a submerged model nor ones the fire torpedoes, hope to have that at some point. Anything they will add immersion to the attack and distract escorts while player attacks. Still researching for 42-45

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Here ya go.

http://www.navalgrid.com/

Excellent. Thanks for the link

[propbeanie]

The real KM grid was created with a Mercator map, which is what SH4's NavMap is. The game's KM grid does not have all of the idiosyncrasies that the real one does, but it is very close. As for the Lat Long coordinates in SH4, remember that they use the decimal system n the ME, and not the minutes / seconds, so if you see -153.74, you are going west from the Meridian, probably somewhere just east of Pearl Harbor (depending upon the Latitude of course), but that the .74 would equate to roughly 44 minutes, 24 seconds, or round it to 45 minutes. I have not seen too many locations off by much. Just remember that everything is "flat" Mercator, even when you are on the boat. As you say though, a KM grid that can be imported into the ME would have been a really nice touch for them to do... It might be possible to do, but I cannot wrap my brain around it just yet. Maybe someone else has some ideas??

[Larry]

Japlance, FYI your suggestion did not work, but I over rote with "Bigger Better Protractor" mod and that did work. Again, Thank You for your reply.
Larry

[Larry]

Gooday all, I am using Dark Waters_V6, need some help please. How do I end Patrol #4? I have been given and completed 4 patrol objectives, but system will not let me end patrol. Every time I complete objective and go to a port with anchor, it will only give me option to Rearm/Refit or postpone. Thanks in advance for any help given.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Larry

Gooday all, I am using Dark Waters_V6, need some help please. How do I end Patrol #4? I have been given and completed 4 patrol objectives, but system will not let me end patrol. Every time I complete objective and go to a port with anchor, it will only give me option to Rearm/Refit or postpone. Thanks in advance for any help given.

How... about posting your mod list of activated mods, here... in a reply back.... hmmm...

This can be accomplished by opening up jsgme, clicking 'tasks' in the center of it... selecting from the pop up menu, "Export activated mods list to..." highlighting that choice & selecting, "to clipboard."


This will allow you to paste that list in your reply back... allowing us to see what you're rolling with, exactly & see if there isn't a mod in there.. that should NOT be or a mod not in the right place in activation... perhaps...









M. M.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Larry

Gooday all, I am using Dark Waters_V6, need some help please. How do I end Patrol #4? I have been given and completed 4 patrol objectives, but system will not let me end patrol. Every time I complete objective and go to a port with anchor, it will only give me option to Rearm/Refit or postpone. Thanks in advance for any help given.

Year? Date? Possible your home port shifted. Look for the fouled anchor. Mid 1940 once France falls...2nd flotilla for example, transfers to Lorient.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Larry

Gooday all, I am using Dark Waters_V6, need some help please. How do I end Patrol #4? I have been given and completed 4 patrol objectives, but system will not let me end patrol. Every time I complete objective and go to a port with anchor, it will only give me option to Rearm/Refit or postpone. Thanks in advance for any help given.

Bubblehead, raises another salient point here, as well...

Basically, the more info you provide, beyond the "I'm upset because... A, or B... or even C, happened... with little to no real details", does make it downright difficult to pinpoint a cause & effect solution... to an issue.


So... in retrograde conclusion...

the more info, the better.








M. M.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The real KM grid was created with a Mercator map, which is what SH4's NavMap is. The game's KM grid does not have all of the idiosyncrasies that the real one does, but it is very close. As for the Lat Long coordinates in SH4, remember that they use the decimal system n the ME, and not the minutes / seconds, so if you see -153.74, you are going west from the Meridian, probably somewhere just east of Pearl Harbor (depending upon the Latitude of course), but that the .74 would equate to roughly 44 minutes, 24 seconds, or round it to 45 minutes. I have not seen too many locations off by much. Just remember that everything is "flat" Mercator, even when you are on the boat. As you say though, a KM grid that can be imported into the ME would have been a really nice touch for them to do... It might be possible to do, but I cannot wrap my brain around it just yet. Maybe someone else has some ideas??

I understand that, but things are still off in many cases. I noticed this when building the campaign traffic for TMO Update, especially with historic contacts and Ultras. Real world coordinates often differ than those in the sim, so I would have to give slightly different coordinates in ULTRA's vs real world in order for things to work properly. Due to earth being flat, journeys often take longer than would have in real world, so have to alter start dates and times as well.

Im sure you are aware of this. For example, HX-79 departed Halifax on 9 September 1940 but if have it leave historic time in game, not possible for it bd proper position for historic engagement even at max speed, so have had to make it depart on 6 September in order to be in proper position for first contact with U-47 and for follow up attacks.

[Larry]

Mad Mardigan and Bubblehead1980 Thank you for the replies and my apologies. Again, Thank you in advance.

Date-03 Mar 1940
Home Port- Wilhelmshaven (still showing Fouled Anchor)

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[CapitainEA]

Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

Nice video, but is it really maximal difficulty when you're pausing the game to get range and AOB?

Since I do all the distance and AOB calculations by hand and I'm alone in my submarine (which is never the case in reality). I think I have the right to press the pause button my captain

[CapitainEA]

Hi all captains, I like it a lot and I have a lot of fun with this mod, but when I come across large convoys I have to reduce the graphics as much as possible otherwise I have lags and screens that freeze as you can see in this video at 46 mins. When the screen or I have freezes, I have to return to the desktop to stop freezing.

Fifi can you tell me how to resolve this issue?

Cordially. Captain_PUJOL

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