SH5 CTD - Help please.

[lolalola321]

Hello,

I have recently started playing SH5 again and have been reading up (for several days now) on mods, how to install them, etc.

I have an original copy of SH5 Gold Edition (uplay launcher in offline mode) and a more than enough capable computer. It has been updated to patch 1.2 using the Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\Support\GameUpdater\gu.exe program, and after installing my mods using the order posted bellow my game has also been patched successfully using TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_168_0.

When installing mods I followed Sobers tutorial http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=192374
I watched his videos as well as read through most of the documentation.

Even though I do not have all of the mods that he has, I tried to replicate his mod load order as best as I could. This is my mod load order:

Accurate German Flags
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
Messervy_s_gramophone_pack1
Capthelms Audio+SV Touch Ups
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.a Ambient Settings - Darker Nights
DynEnv v2.9 - 9. Sobers Best Ever Tweaks
DynEnv v2.9 - 12. Sounds
DynEnv v2.9 - 6. Sleet for Winter Campaigns
DynEnv v2.9 - 10.I Seafloor (high resolution)
DynEnv v2.9 - 11.a.I Sea Plants - Atlantic Kelp Forests (high resolution)
sobers smoke screen V1 SH5
sobers more trees SH5
Small_trees_SH5_V1
North Atlantic Green 1.1
sobers better terrain v3 SH5
sobers best ever fog V12 SH5
sobers best ever waves V5 SH5
sobers see thru wake fix
sobers 3D deck spray mod V7
Window_Lights_Redone_V1
Pascal-sh5-Crew-Uniforms
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
TDW_No_Hydrophone_On_Surface_1_1_0
TDW_Ship_Inertia_1_1_0
IRAI_0_0_41_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_41_Inertia_Damage
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part1_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 2_07.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 3_24.06.2013
Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 4_20.07.2013
Sjizzle's - MarineQuadrat Charts for NewUIs v. 0.00.2
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
Nauticalwolf's_Torpedo_Textures_v1.2
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
NOZAURIO'S SKIN (Standar No Emblem) v-1.1.0
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5
SH5 External Cargo 1.0
MQK Gradient_IO
MQK LocationMaps_IO
MQK ShapeTextures_NO
OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.7.1 by vdr1981_Main mod
R.S.D. v5.7.1 - Indestructible UZO patch
MCCD_1.04
Speech fixes and additions (german version)
ASDIC_alternate_sound
DeckKannon
Destroyers&Corvette
MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps 1.0
AMMO_v1.0_SH5_by_Raven_2012
Diesel
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith
sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
stoianm colored exterior mod v2 (low color)

I made sure to skip the tutorial, load in, set my settings and reload, before I start playing the campaign - in short - I really did my best to follow all of his recommendations on how to start a new campaign with mods properly.

When requesting the mission Baltic Operations (OHII 1st of September mission) my game CTDs at random - usually before I get to the area of operations. I once managed to intercept the Polish convoy and sink two ships (the German AI aircraft helped me with that), but then after sailing for a few minutes my game crashed again..

I guess what I am trying to ask is, what could be the case or the reason behind these crashes.

Help would be greatly appreciated

[XenonSurf]

There is a critical patch for the Dyn 2.9 mod that you have not installed. It's called

DynEnv v2.9 - No Underwater Impurity Patch


I don't know if this will correct CTD's however. You need to carefully read the Dyn 2.9 documentation, some optional mods exclude each other and can cause CTD when your computer is not performant enough (not your case), or if they are installed when they should not (I bet it's your case).

Here is the link to download, and you can read all important notes too:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3975


I would install these mods first, in position 2 in your list:
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
Also every sound mod just before NewUIs 7_5_0 and not before.

All equipment upgrades must be installed first before NewUIs, after SteelVikings mods and before sound mods. Also your equipment fixes are not complete, the right things to install and the right order is:

...
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equip_Upgrades_Fix_1_4_AFFOE_151
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
Equip_Upgrades_Fix_1_4_Patch_1_AFFOE_151
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
...


"Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith" must be installed immediately after Dyn 2.9 .


The R.S.D. mod can cause CTD's in rare cases, read the doc, but it's ok with the UZO patch I think.


Your modlist shows important errors in the mod order, so it's no surprise that you get CTDs IMO. You have to consult the mod readme's which tell about compatibility and install order relative to other mods.
Correct what I said above and go see if it resolves your crashes. Also deinstall some optional Dyn mods.


XS
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[THEBERBSTER]

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[lolalola321]

Hello and thank you for your swift replies!

I actually remember reading up on the "No underwater impurity patch". I decided to check it out again and this is what it says:
DynEnv v2.9 - No Underwater Impurity Patch (date added: 5 Mar 2013)
Removes underwater impurity particles. Enable it after the Main Mod and either of the Enhanced Visibility optional mods, if used.
NOTE: required by the Enhanced Visibility submod high version, to fix a bug which makes impurity to be rendered as solid white squares.

I guessed it was only required by the Enhanced Visibility submod high version, so that is why I did not install this patch (my game is also not rendering any solid white squares)

I would like to stress again that I was following the basic install order of Sobers Mega Mod, a mod pack, that from what I've heard should be virtually CTD free..
What was strange to me also is that he (Sober) has the Equipment upgrades installed AFTER and not before NewUI's. I'll copy his Mega Mod install order bellow for easier reference:

sobers game loading tips V9 SH5
sobers mega mod half size trees
sobers smoke screen V1 SH5
sobers more trees SH5
sobers mega mod key commands V2
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_alt_officer_wounded_by_Torpedo
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_RadCapTools_0_2_alpha
Large Optics for TDW UI for NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0
RadcapricornLarge Optics No Milliradian Scale Binoculars
Large Optics for TDW UI RAOBF + Nomograph Fix
Large Optics for TDW UI Range estimation Chart
IRAI_0_0_41_ByTheDarkWraith
sobers mega mod IRAI - Happy Times
Environment 15 MOD
sobers mega mod fog and clouds mod
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.2.2 Patch
Fuel Gauge WoGaDi_SteelViking's Interior
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5
sobers mega mod chimney smoke
TWoS_New Imported Ships by vdr1981
SH5 External Cargo 1.0
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.5_TWoS Enhancement
MQK Gradient_IO
MQK LocationMaps_IO
MQK ShapeTextures_NO
sobers mega mod_TWoS Enh_sobersTerrainShips V3
OH II v2.5 Grid Request fix Patch SH5
OH II v2.5 Flag_Wind_Patch
sobers mega mod_ObyShipwrecks_sobersTerrainV30
OHII v2.5 - No Stupid Tonnage Bar_Free Style Campaign v0.1_NewUIs v7.5.0
OHII v2.5 - Neutr.Nations in Allied Convoys_Temp.Fix II
DefSide fix OHII v2.5 - Neutr.Nations Temp.Fix 2
OHII v2.5 - Convoys_Ships Enhancement_0.1.2
sobers mega mod VIIB campaign start mod v2
TF capital ships behavior_Testing v0.1.1
Ships sonar Fix For TWOS
Z_Roster_Names.cfg
FX_Update_22_ByTDW_HanSolo_sobers no resetting funnel smoke V2
Iron Crosses Disabled for No Tonnage Bar_Stock map_by Sober
Wasserbomben_Soundfix_1.2_ESO
R.S.D. - Reworked Submarine Damage v5.7.1 by vdr1981_Main mod
R.S.D. v5.7.1 - Indestructible UZO patch
R.S.D. & R.E.M. - GHG Hydrophone add-on (no hyd on surface)
SH5_FW Coastal Defenses by Vecko & gap
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt faces
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
sobers mega mod reward points
EMCCD v0.3.1 by archer9
Speech fixes and additions (german version)
sobers mega mod TDWUserOptions_No Tonnage +Menu SH5 V34
sobers mega mod dead is dead_No Tonnage V17
AMMO_v1.0_SH5_by_Raven_2012
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
Church's Compass Dials Mod v2.2 - Option Two
MadMaxs_SH5_Subdiesel (mono) v2
gap - HD 1 deg Scope Bearing v 1.0
Patrolsearch autoscriptsV04
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally TDC Help v2
Trevally Tutorial - All v0.2(for OHIIv1.3)
SOB_HUS_RPM Inertia autoscripts V2 SH5
Warfox deck crew always whispering SH5 German Version
Water reflections intensity varied by available sunlight by TheDarkWraith
WHF-FUC_We Have Flooding-Flooding Under Control_Fix
sobers no footstep sound mod SH5 V2
sobers NO ship bow wave mod SH5
sobers realistic underwater FX10 SH5
sobers No bullet trasers SH5
sobers mega mod attack scope 1.5x V4
sobers hud sounds V1 SH5
sobers green crew training V4 SH5
sobers collision sound SH5
sobers Blackout lights V3 SH5
Shallow Waters Voice Be Gone
sobers mega mod Texture mods
German U-Boat Crew Language Pack
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_Real_Navigation


However, I do have some good news after all - I was tweaking my main.cfg Time Compression settings (located in Documents\SH5\data\cfg) and after relaunching the game with tweaked TC settings, I got no CTD's after 2 hours of playing the first OHII mission - Baltic Operations, all the way from the 31st of August through to nearly the end of September 3rd (my TC varied from 1x - 1024X and I sunk 4 ships using the deck gun and 1 torpedo - and the game ran no problem!)

@XenonSurf I would like to thank you for your reply.. though, to be honest, I'll keep my fingers crossed for now with my current mod and game config.

If I get more CTD's I'll go ahead and try new mod load orders and make sure to keep you all updated in this thread.. who knows - might help someone else too

[Krieg Francis]

In general, I would not recommend to install so many mods (which are mostly included in TWoS as you said) at the same time, Silent Hunter titles tend to be extremely unstable when modified.
Mega Mods are better for that reason.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi l
The problem you have is you are going to spend so much time trying to fix your game rather than playing it that you will end up frustrated and dumping the game.

The days of the mod lists like yours are over thank goodness the way forward is with TWoS.
The Wolves Of Steel Mega Mod (TWoS) By vdr1981 > Highly Recommended For All SH5 Players
Peter

[lolalola321]

Hello @THEBERBSTER and thank you for your reply

Looks like my game isn't that stable after all... I think I might give TWoS a shot since it has pretty much all of the mods I like anywyas, but I do have a couple of questions.. (I dead read through the link you sent me, but am not sure if I understood these two things)

1. I saw there was no mention of TDW's Generic patcher - can I patch the game after I install TWoS, or should I not do it..?

2. I like playing realistically, but am not too big of a fan of completely realistic navigation.. I just can't seem to get a hang of realistic navigation and would prefer the "point and click" method of the stock type of navigation in SH5, if you know what I mean.. - Is there a way to play TWoS without real navigation?

I am sorry if this has been answered before, but would really appreciate your help

[lolalola321]

Ah, quick update.

I seemed to have overlooked the actual TWoS install instructions PDF!

I am going to try this mod out ASAP

Still not sure if Real Navi can be disabled in the install options, but I did see the notes regarding the patcher.

[kapuhy]

Originally Posted by lolalola321

Still not sure if Real Navi can be disabled in the install options.

Real Nav is optional addon in TWoS - it can be disabled through JGSME either during or after installation (though I wouldn't recommend disabling mid-campaign).

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi l
TWoS is proven to be 100% ctd free.
A Pictorial Step By Step Guide Through The Wolves Of Steel (TWOS) Installer > Pictorial

THEBERBSTER'S The Wolves of Steel JSGME Mods Lists With And Without Real Navigation > 100% CTD Free
Peter

[Aktungbby]

lolalola! congrats U may just have ended the 'Age of the long mod list!'

[lolalola321]

Hi all.

I've been messing around with TWoS for a couple of days right now and have been enjoying it. For the most part..

I have read virtually EVERYTHING there is to know about this mod (including all of the instructional manuals that come installed with it and the main forum posts) and even learned how to used the Enigma Machine, but I have a few issues...

First of all - let there be no doubt that my game and this mod are installed absolutely correctly and that my computer is absolutely more than capable (6 core, 12 thread Intel i7 (OC'd and water cooled), GTX 780 GPU, 16GB of ram, etc. etc... granted it is an older system, but SH5 is an older game anyways)

I made sure to uninstall my prev game, deleted all the left over files from both SH5 and also Ubisoft, restarted the computer, fresh install, restarted the comp. again, updated to 1.2, and started the game up 1 time (as it says in the TWoS instructions), restarted, installed TWoS (all of the SH5, Ubisoft and associated Mod exe's have the run as admin box ticked), restared, enabled optional Enigma, Interior Food Stocks, Map contact colors and Radio reports Auto target ID mods and restarted again. I even Alt TAB on the main menu and give osi.exe the highest priority (for campaign continuation, as described in the instructions)

The game runs fine, BUT

There is clipping inside of the interior (with the black "instrument labels" and the enigma machine), my crew keeps notifying me EVERY 5 seconds about smoke on the horizon (there was a ship, yes, but I didn't need to know about her every 5 seconds), and the deck gun crew keeps "walking away" (though, maybe that was due to the seas being somewhat rough... I guess... - could that be an issue?)

In spite of everything I absolutely enjoyed this modpack and will def. be using it in the future, but if anyone could shed any light on the issues described above I would once again be grateful

Also - how do you delete "cloud synced" save games? I do have the offline thing in Uplay ticked, but everytime I reinstall the game they keep comming back (yes I deleted my SH5 documents folder, and also delted the Ubisoft folder in the C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\Ubisoft Game Launcher directory...

C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\Ubisoft Game Launcher\savegames\"a string of letters and numbers"\3\ is this where the savegames would be synced online btw?

Anyways, thanks

[XenonSurf]

I recommend you to watch videos about how to use the NewUIs in SH5, otherwise you will always have trouble playing the game. This is not included in the WoS documentation.
Stoianm has made a good 6-part video serie available on Youtube about all buttons you can use in the TDW NewUI interface.


With WoS or a long modlist loaded you must have a pretty good computer system. Also the TDW NewUIs contained in WoS (and every good modlist) is not perfect. After loading a save, it's good practise to first go shortly in the compartments, go up to bridge and down the ladder, and not using high TC or teleport immediately. Also sometimes mouse clicks or key commands don't work. Hit twice NumPad Enter key to unblock. After longer play it's necessary to save & reload or the game gets messy, this also applies to WoS to a smaller extend.


Cloud saves are not integral part of the game, it's Ubisoft/Steam/U-Play stuff which I don't bother with, you have to get infos there. Normally saves are located in a SH5 folder in your Documents folder in Windows.