Enemy ships not showing up in SH 4

cookiemonste · 03-17-24, 06:24 AM

Even though reviving this thread is arecheology, I thought its appropriate to post in here. I have the same problem, I am also running FOTRS, I am not running into any shipping. My first patrol had two task forces, which I intercepted but my 2nd patrol, nothing, there is absolutely noting going on. No sonar, nothing on the surface, just some aircraft here and there. I "visited" 3 harbours and they were all empty. Even when I am patroling the convoy routes, nothing.

fitzcarraldo · 03-17-24, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiemonste

Even though reviving this thread is ancient, I thought its appropriate to post in here. I have the same problem, I am also running FOTRS, I am not running into any shipping. My first patrol had two task forces, which I intercepted but my 2nd patrol, nothing, there is absolutely noting going on. No sonar, nothing on the surface, just some aircraft here and there. I "visited" 3 harbours and they were all empty. Even when I am patroling the convoy routes, nothing.

Hi mate. Are you playing FOTRS or FOTRS Ultimate 1.8?

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

cookiemonste · 03-17-24, 07:22 AM

I am playing with ultimate.

propbeanie · 03-17-24, 07:46 PM

Did you delete the Save folder after you activated FotRSU? That would be C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 by default, unless you changed it with MultiSH4. If you did not empty the Save folder before playing FotRSU, you probably have a "mod soup" situation where you have part of what you had before, and part of FotRSU. The FotRSU mod has several changes from most other mods and stock, and the ship calls are NOT compatible between any of them, which would result in no traffic.

Run JSGME and click on the "Tasks..." link in the middle. Choose "Export activated mod list to --->" and then paste the results into your next post, whether you choose Clipboard or Text File...

cookiemonste · 03-18-24, 06:38 AM

I did not but it was a fresh installation too.
What I did however, was copy paste the FORTS mod directly into the game folder, I overwrote the files. The other mods are activated via JSGME.

My mods:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Spiele\Ubisoft\MODS]

Nihon Kaigun v1.3a_FotRSU
Nippon_Maru_v1.9b_FotRSU
FI-OQ_FotRSU_v1.8f_upcPatch
450_MoonlightzSonarLines
399_NoScrollNavMap
801_UMark Smaller
#1 ISE New clouds+Waves
Japanese DD skins correction - Historical
Fleetboat_Interior-Officers_Quarters_FOTRSU_v1.7_EN
Improved Stock Environment_v3_TMO&RFB
#2 ISE Realistic Colors
FOTRSU_1.8_SUB_SKINS_IN_4k
525_StickieCamera

propbeanie · 03-18-24, 07:26 AM

You have your mod list in a bit of a mess with some over-writing each other... Try doing it this way:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Spiele\Ubisoft\MODS]

Nihon Kaigun v1.3a_FotRSU
Nippon_Maru_v1.9b_FotRSU
Combined Roster Add - Enables Nihon Kaigun + Nippon Maru to be installed together with shared rosters.
450_MoonlightzSonarLines
399_NoScrollNavMap
525_StickieCamera
801_UMark Smaller
Fleetboat_Interior-Officers_Quarters_FOTRSU_v1.7_EN
FI-OQ_FotRSU_v1.8f_upcPatch
Improved Stock Environment_v3_TMO&RFB
#1 ISE New clouds+Waves
#2 ISE Realistic Colors
Japanese DD skins correction - Historical
FOTRSU_1.8_SUB_SKINS_IN_4k

Now, the ISE and #1 and #2 might all be incompatible with FotRSU, in spite of FotRSU being based on TMO v1.7 years ago. There have been changes to the mod, and any environmental mod can influence the sensors for ships and your sub, so if you notice any short-sighted planes or ships, that's what is probably the cause. Also note that some of the environmental mods from that time period were included in FotRSU, and you might be overwriting stuff already in there... I am not familiar with the DD Skins mod, and it probably does not cover all the DD in the mod, and some may not fit the changes done to the mod since it was first built, so if you notice some IJN DD that look odd, that would be the issue. The "Combined Roster" is a mod included in the MODS folder with Nihon Kaigun and Nippon Maru, and is needed to allow both mods to work together inside FotRSU.

Other than that, after you re-arrange things, be certain to delete the Save folder, which would be "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" by default, unless changed by the use of MultiSH4. You can also use the Windows side dialog in Explorer, but be aware that there is a difference in Windows 11 (and sometimes 10, dependent upon config), where the UserName directories are ~different~ from the shortcut directories for some odd, Windows reason... Case in point is this Win11 laptop of mine, where the SH4 directory is NOT under UserName, but is rather a "shared" directory that I can only find from the side dialog window, as here:

YMMV... unfortunately

cookiemonste · 03-18-24, 02:40 PM

I've deleted the save folder and re-aranged my mods, I will keep you posted.

03-17-24, 07:46 PM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,770 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	Did you delete the Save folder after you activated FotRSU? That would be C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4 by default, unless you changed it with MultiSH4. If you did not empty the Save folder before playing FotRSU, you probably have a "mod soup" situation where you have part of what you had before, and part of FotRSU. The FotRSU mod has several changes from most other mods and stock, and the ship calls are NOT compatible between any of them, which would result in no traffic. Run JSGME and click on the "Tasks..." link in the middle. Choose "Export activated mod list to --->" and then paste the results into your next post, whether you choose Clipboard or Text File... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-18-24, 07:26 AM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,770 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	You have your mod list in a bit of a mess with some over-writing each other... Try doing it this way: Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 [C:\Spiele\Ubisoft\MODS] Nihon Kaigun v1.3a_FotRSU Nippon_Maru_v1.9b_FotRSU Combined Roster Add - Enables Nihon Kaigun + Nippon Maru to be installed together with shared rosters. 450_MoonlightzSonarLines 399_NoScrollNavMap 525_StickieCamera 801_UMark Smaller Fleetboat_Interior-Officers_Quarters_FOTRSU_v1.7_EN FI-OQ_FotRSU_v1.8f_upcPatch Improved Stock Environment_v3_TMO&RFB #1 ISE New clouds+Waves #2 ISE Realistic Colors Japanese DD skins correction - Historical FOTRSU_1.8_SUB_SKINS_IN_4k Now, the ISE and #1 and #2 might all be incompatible with FotRSU, in spite of FotRSU being based on TMO v1.7 years ago. There have been changes to the mod, and any environmental mod can influence the sensors for ships and your sub, so if you notice any short-sighted planes or ships, that's what is probably the cause. Also note that some of the environmental mods from that time period were included in FotRSU, and you might be overwriting stuff already in there... I am not familiar with the DD Skins mod, and it probably does not cover all the DD in the mod, and some may not fit the changes done to the mod since it was first built, so if you notice some IJN DD that look odd, that would be the issue. The "Combined Roster" is a mod included in the MODS folder with Nihon Kaigun and Nippon Maru, and is needed to allow both mods to work together inside FotRSU. Other than that, after you re-arrange things, be certain to delete the Save folder, which would be "C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" by default, unless changed by the use of MultiSH4. You can also use the Windows side dialog in Explorer, but be aware that there is a difference in Windows 11 (and sometimes 10, dependent upon config), where the UserName directories are ~different~ from the shortcut directories for some odd, Windows reason... Case in point is this Win11 laptop of mine, where the SH4 directory is NOT under UserName, but is rather a "shared" directory that I can only find from the side dialog window, as here: YMMV... unfortunately __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-17-24, 06:24 AM	#1
cookiemonste Medic Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Somewhere Posts: 167 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Even though reviving this thread is arecheology, I thought its appropriate to post in here. I have the same problem, I am also running FOTRS, I am not running into any shipping. My first patrol had two task forces, which I intercepted but my 2nd patrol, nothing, there is absolutely noting going on. No sonar, nothing on the surface, just some aircraft here and there. I "visited" 3 harbours and they were all empty. Even when I am patroling the convoy routes, nothing. Last edited by cookiemonste; 03-17-24 at 07:21 AM.

03-17-24, 07:22 AM	#3
cookiemonste Medic Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Somewhere Posts: 167 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I am playing with ultimate.

03-18-24, 06:38 AM	#5
cookiemonste Medic Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Somewhere Posts: 167 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I did not but it was a fresh installation too. What I did however, was copy paste the FORTS mod directly into the game folder, I overwrote the files. The other mods are activated via JSGME. My mods: Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157 [C:\Spiele\Ubisoft\MODS] Nihon Kaigun v1.3a_FotRSU Nippon_Maru_v1.9b_FotRSU FI-OQ_FotRSU_v1.8f_upcPatch 450_MoonlightzSonarLines 399_NoScrollNavMap 801_UMark Smaller #1 ISE New clouds+Waves Japanese DD skins correction - Historical Fleetboat_Interior-Officers_Quarters_FOTRSU_v1.7_EN Improved Stock Environment_v3_TMO&RFB #2 ISE Realistic Colors FOTRSU_1.8_SUB_SKINS_IN_4k 525_StickieCamera

03-18-24, 02:40 PM	#7
cookiemonste Medic Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Somewhere Posts: 167 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	I've deleted the save folder and re-aranged my mods, I will keep you posted.