[WIP] Mods, Units & IDs

s7rikeback · 04-04-20, 03:33 PM

During my time modding Silent Hunter 3 & 4, I have created many excel spreadsheets, recording different aspects of the units used in the game or mod I am working with.

As an example, please see the sample below...

After working with VonDos recently, he suggested that I release my SH3 versions to the masses. As these would help other modders or players when making or introducing units to their games.

My friend & mentor Jeff-Groves, first introduced the importance of making sure we had no shared unit IDs, as we are working on SH4 - FotRSU. And over the years, I have lost soo much of my modding and game time in pursuit of this goal.

If any of you play FotRSU, you would see some of the work the team uses to narrow down the problems we face.
goto > Support > MissionEditing > FotRSU - Equipment & Unit list.xlsx
goto > Support > MissionEditing > FotRSU - Loadouts_Air list.xlsx
goto > Support > MissionEditing > FotRSU - Sensors.xlsx

These were created and grew as we faced different problems, and needed a record of the data for that area.

What does a shared ID mean? It can be a one way ticket to a CTD, during the loading of your game, the first time you introduce your new mod. And in my experience it will continue until the offending unit is either removed, or has it's top level ID remapped to a new unused number within your mod.

00_SH3 Rosters.xlsx > Download
01_SH3 with GWX 3.0 Rosters.xlsx > Download
02_bbw's GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V7 Rosters.xlsx > Download
03_WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010 > No Rosters
04_New Lorient v1 - GWX3+Wilhelmshafen_et_al_V7 > No Rosters
05_WB's USAM v69.61 Rosters.xlsx > Download
06_MFM-V3.3 Rosters.xlsx > Download

VonDos ShipYard Datasheet - WIP

My initial aim, was to combine all the above mods, together with:
WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010
New Lorient v1 - GWX3+Wilhelmshafen_et_al_V7

To enlarge my GWX3.0 experience, after many ID changes, model changes, it's now fully playable...
I seem to be waffling and going off course here..

Will I do more mod lists, perhaps... Lets see where I sail from next...
So, without further fanfare.

Jeff-Groves · 04-04-20, 03:40 PM

OUTSTANDING!!!

Now. These are only the very top Parent ID's.
There's a WHOLE lot more ID's in every dat file and THOSE ID's can cause conflicts.

The information provided will come in handy though IF you use it properly.

Anvar1061 · 04-04-20, 04:19 PM

Jeff-Groves · 04-04-20, 05:35 PM

GWX 3, Before install has 122,693 Unique ID's.
Some may be duplicated as calls to other objects in other files.
I'm currently scan ALL GWX files for duplicates.

propbeanie · 04-04-20, 07:08 PM

s7rikeback's spreadsheets are a massive time saver, even for a campaign and single mission author - he is an XL wiz, I tell ya... It takes me two days to do half of what he does in one hour of building a spreadsheet... and then I have to re-do half of what I did because I used an incorrect data variable, such as an an unsigned integer, when it should have been a float...

- as they used to say on Hee Haw here in the US: "SA-LUTE!!!" for s7rikeback!

Kpt. Lehmann · 04-04-20, 07:42 PM

Queue 'Ride of the Valkyries' by Wagner please.

04-04-20, 03:33 PM	#1
s7rikeback I break things Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Merry Old England Posts: 771 Downloads: 1110 Uploads: 10	Mods, Units & IDs During my time modding Silent Hunter 3 & 4, I have created many excel spreadsheets, recording different aspects of the units used in the game or mod I am working with. As an example, please see the sample below... After working with VonDos recently, he suggested that I release my SH3 versions to the masses. As these would help other modders or players when making or introducing units to their games. My friend & mentor Jeff-Groves, first introduced the importance of making sure we had no shared unit IDs, as we are working on SH4 - FotRSU. And over the years, I have lost soo much of my modding and game time in pursuit of this goal. If any of you play FotRSU, you would see some of the work the team uses to narrow down the problems we face. goto > Support > MissionEditing > FotRSU - Equipment & Unit list.xlsx goto > Support > MissionEditing > FotRSU - Loadouts_Air list.xlsx goto > Support > MissionEditing > FotRSU - Sensors.xlsx These were created and grew as we faced different problems, and needed a record of the data for that area. What does a shared ID mean? It can be a one way ticket to a CTD, during the loading of your game, the first time you introduce your new mod. And in my experience it will continue until the offending unit is either removed, or has it's top level ID remapped to a new unused number within your mod. 00_SH3 Rosters.xlsx > Download 01_SH3 with GWX 3.0 Rosters.xlsx > Download 02_bbw's GWX 3 Wilhemshafen,St Naz,Schluese and xtra ships V7 Rosters.xlsx > Download 03_WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010 > No Rosters 04_New Lorient v1 - GWX3+Wilhelmshafen_et_al_V7 > No Rosters 05_WB's USAM v69.61 Rosters.xlsx > Download 06_MFM-V3.3 Rosters.xlsx > Download VonDos ShipYard Datasheet - WIP My initial aim, was to combine all the above mods, together with: WAC4.1 SubPen_animated_18.02.2010 New Lorient v1 - GWX3+Wilhelmshafen_et_al_V7 To enlarge my GWX3.0 experience, after many ID changes, model changes, it's now fully playable... I seem to be waffling and going off course here.. Will I do more mod lists, perhaps... Lets see where I sail from next... So, without further fanfare. __________________ Last edited by s7rikeback; 04-19-20 at 08:05 AM. Reason: FotRSU links Updated

04-04-20, 03:40 PM	#2
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	OUTSTANDING!!! Now. These are only the very top Parent ID's. There's a WHOLE lot more ID's in every dat file and THOSE ID's can cause conflicts. The information provided will come in handy though IF you use it properly. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask. Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 04-04-20 at 04:24 PM.

04-04-20, 04:19 PM	#3
Anvar1061 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the sea, on land and above Posts: 3,344 Downloads: 846 Uploads: 0	__________________

04-04-20, 05:35 PM	#4
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	GWX 3, Before install has 122,693 Unique ID's. Some may be duplicated as calls to other objects in other files. I'm currently scan ALL GWX files for duplicates. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

04-04-20, 07:08 PM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 440 Uploads: 2	s7rikeback's spreadsheets are a massive time saver, even for a campaign and single mission author - he is an XL wiz, I tell ya... It takes me two days to do half of what he does in one hour of building a spreadsheet... and then I have to re-do half of what I did because I used an incorrect data variable, such as an an unsigned integer, when it should have been a float... - as they used to say on Hee Haw here in the US: "SA-LUTE!!!" for s7rikeback! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-04-20, 07:42 PM	#6
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,875 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Queue 'Ride of the Valkyries' by Wagner please. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock