1024 time compression

Wolfar · 01-25-24, 08:34 PM

Kind of a cheat using 1024 time compression, as the crew does not get exhausted but they do not sleep either.

propbeanie · 01-26-24, 10:41 AM

There are a LOT of issues with the game when you go over 256x even...

Fifi · 01-26-24, 01:35 PM

Yes, Game should be even max x256 locked!

Pisces · 01-26-24, 05:43 PM

Remember, 1024x time compression is like jumping close to 20 minutes (1080 seconds) in 1 second. That's a big leap. I don't know how many updates the game does in 1 second, like a fixed rate (like minecraft ticks) or just a variable rate like your screen FPS. But that is no doubt a big gap between things happening. You could jump in the middle of a air patrol, escort gun range, beach yourself in the Kiel Kanal.

Wolfar · 01-26-24, 09:22 PM

I saw everyone's response thank you for looking!

I still like the 1024 speed it gets you places fast and out of places. LOL

Just moved into Feb 1942 things are getting spicy FAST!

Hooston · 01-27-24, 09:01 AM

If you play at >256 time compression you get the following:

Aircraft appearing at short range (some would say this is more realistic)
Escorts charging out of fog or rain. This can lead to a "you're dead" message with no chance to react.
Fatal collisions, typically near home port. Frequently with the vessel sent out to escort you back in!

It seems that the campaign in SH3 is an afterthought introduced thanks to folks behind this forum. The original vision seems to have been just playing through a set of tactical scenarios. This explains why the crew fatigue system is based on "action stations" only without a watch system, why the weather changes in a strange way and why the game engine does not update smoothly at high time compression.
I don't like crawling around a vast ocean in low time compression. life is too short. I prefer the "jump to next action" idea in Cold Waters. Like many here I was a big fan of European Air War back in the day, where Alt-N would catapult you into the next action, sometimes in a frightening situation.
I'm wondering if there is scope for this via SH3 commander - make the "save game and exit" option lead you to a "standing orders" screen, run the campaign offline until something happens, then relaunch the game with an updated save game file.

Tabris · 01-27-24, 03:12 PM

AFAIK it's perfectly safe to use while submerged. I would lament the game being locked to anything lower than 1024, sometimes when I'm already in the desired/ordered AO (i.e. not transiting) but there's a bad storm, submerging and TCing is the best way to get it over with. Unlike doing it while surfaced, I've never been dangerously surprised by hydrophone contacts at high TC.

Wolfar · 01-27-24, 08:54 PM

Well I think running around at 1024 TC might have been a bad idea.

Planes come at you too fast, they are on top of you and my U-Boat was sunk.

Was doing great 192 tons sunk and 1 incident all gone!

Anvar1061 · 01-28-24, 04:39 AM

Many players do not recommend TC greater than x 512

Wolfar · 01-28-24, 09:54 AM

Well started a new one in mid 1942 type IX sub.

Got a patrol off of Canada.

Only did 256 TC.

Sunk before I even got there by planes..........

Hooston · 01-28-24, 04:02 PM

Ah yes, I vaguely remember the aircraft get a bit silly in vanilla. If I remember correctly they are also absurdly easy to shoot down, but eventually they will get you. A good reason to switch to GWX or NYGM.
Don't use TC>256 in areas where aircraft are about. Crash dive immediately the aircraft is spotted and as soon as the boat is at 10m start to turn. Unlike real allied ASW aircraft the depth charges they drop are still a threat at moderate depths; you are fairly safe at 50m.
When you have been spotted or have sent a radio message you are much more likely to get attacked by aircraft for the next day or so.
However remember the game expects to kill you in the mid war period. I've never got past mid 1944. In fact the game gets slowly worse as a simulation as you get towards the end of the war because the real life equipment and tactics became way more complex.

Wolfar · 01-28-24, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hooston

Ah yes, I vaguely remember the aircraft get a bit silly in vanilla. If I remember correctly they are also absurdly easy to shoot down, but eventually they will get you. A good reason to switch to GWX or NYGM.
Don't use TC>256 in areas where aircraft are about. Crash dive immediately the aircraft is spotted and as soon as the boat is at 10m start to turn. Unlike real allied ASW aircraft the depth charges they drop are still a threat at moderate depths; you are fairly safe at 50m.
When you have been spotted or have sent a radio message you are much more likely to get attacked by aircraft for the next day or so.
However remember the game expects to kill you in the mid war period. I've never got past mid 1944. In fact the game gets slowly worse as a simulation as you get towards the end of the war because the real life equipment and tactics became way more complex.

Copy that!

Back in the day I played the HELL out of this sim.

01-25-24, 08:34 PM	#1
Wolfar Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 115 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	1024 time compression Kind of a cheat using 1024 time compression, as the crew does not get exhausted but they do not sleep either. __________________ Wolfar 20 Year US Navy Retired Former Squadron CO and founder: 1997~2003 JG2, JG26, Strike Masters Simulations: Red Baron mega multiplayer, EAW, SDOE, Falcon 4, IL2 Forgotten Battles, MS Combat Flight Simulator 3, too many more to list.

01-26-24, 10:41 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	There are a LOT of issues with the game when you go over 256x even... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

01-26-24, 01:35 PM	#3
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01-26-24, 05:43 PM	#4
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,892 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Remember, 1024x time compression is like jumping close to 20 minutes (1080 seconds) in 1 second. That's a big leap. I don't know how many updates the game does in 1 second, like a fixed rate (like minecraft ticks) or just a variable rate like your screen FPS. But that is no doubt a big gap between things happening. You could jump in the middle of a air patrol, escort gun range, beach yourself in the Kiel Kanal. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

01-26-24, 09:22 PM	#5
Wolfar Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 115 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I saw everyone's response thank you for looking! I still like the 1024 speed it gets you places fast and out of places. LOL Just moved into Feb 1942 things are getting spicy FAST! __________________ Wolfar 20 Year US Navy Retired Former Squadron CO and founder: 1997~2003 JG2, JG26, Strike Masters Simulations: Red Baron mega multiplayer, EAW, SDOE, Falcon 4, IL2 Forgotten Battles, MS Combat Flight Simulator 3, too many more to list.

01-27-24, 09:01 AM	#6
Hooston Soundman Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 143 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Pushing the game too far If you play at >256 time compression you get the following: Aircraft appearing at short range (some would say this is more realistic) Escorts charging out of fog or rain. This can lead to a "you're dead" message with no chance to react. Fatal collisions, typically near home port. Frequently with the vessel sent out to escort you back in! It seems that the campaign in SH3 is an afterthought introduced thanks to folks behind this forum. The original vision seems to have been just playing through a set of tactical scenarios. This explains why the crew fatigue system is based on "action stations" only without a watch system, why the weather changes in a strange way and why the game engine does not update smoothly at high time compression. I don't like crawling around a vast ocean in low time compression. life is too short. I prefer the "jump to next action" idea in Cold Waters. Like many here I was a big fan of European Air War back in the day, where Alt-N would catapult you into the next action, sometimes in a frightening situation. I'm wondering if there is scope for this via SH3 commander - make the "save game and exit" option lead you to a "standing orders" screen, run the campaign offline until something happens, then relaunch the game with an updated save game file.

01-27-24, 03:12 PM	#7
Tabris Gunner Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 98 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	AFAIK it's perfectly safe to use while submerged. I would lament the game being locked to anything lower than 1024, sometimes when I'm already in the desired/ordered AO (i.e. not transiting) but there's a bad storm, submerging and TCing is the best way to get it over with. Unlike doing it while surfaced, I've never been dangerously surprised by hydrophone contacts at high TC.

01-27-24, 08:54 PM	#8
Wolfar Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 115 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well I think running around at 1024 TC might have been a bad idea. Planes come at you too fast, they are on top of you and my U-Boat was sunk. Was doing great 192 tons sunk and 1 incident all gone! __________________ Wolfar 20 Year US Navy Retired Former Squadron CO and founder: 1997~2003 JG2, JG26, Strike Masters Simulations: Red Baron mega multiplayer, EAW, SDOE, Falcon 4, IL2 Forgotten Battles, MS Combat Flight Simulator 3, too many more to list.

01-28-24, 04:39 AM	#9
Anvar1061 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the sea, on land and above Posts: 3,344 Downloads: 846 Uploads: 0	Many players do not recommend TC greater than x 512 __________________

01-28-24, 09:54 AM	#10
Wolfar Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Avondale, AZ Posts: 115 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well started a new one in mid 1942 type IX sub. Got a patrol off of Canada. Only did 256 TC. Sunk before I even got there by planes.......... __________________ Wolfar 20 Year US Navy Retired Former Squadron CO and founder: 1997~2003 JG2, JG26, Strike Masters Simulations: Red Baron mega multiplayer, EAW, SDOE, Falcon 4, IL2 Forgotten Battles, MS Combat Flight Simulator 3, too many more to list.

01-28-24, 04:02 PM	#11
Hooston Soundman Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 143 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	If you ask for vanilla you get planes Ah yes, I vaguely remember the aircraft get a bit silly in vanilla. If I remember correctly they are also absurdly easy to shoot down, but eventually they will get you. A good reason to switch to GWX or NYGM. Don't use TC>256 in areas where aircraft are about. Crash dive immediately the aircraft is spotted and as soon as the boat is at 10m start to turn. Unlike real allied ASW aircraft the depth charges they drop are still a threat at moderate depths; you are fairly safe at 50m. When you have been spotted or have sent a radio message you are much more likely to get attacked by aircraft for the next day or so. However remember the game expects to kill you in the mid war period. I've never got past mid 1944. In fact the game gets slowly worse as a simulation as you get towards the end of the war because the real life equipment and tactics became way more complex. Last edited by Hooston; 01-28-24 at 04:23 PM.