[REL] Dark Waters - Page 116

KaleunMarco · 06-15-23, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

Probably I could give a try，which is a huge work. Mainly because OneAlex SHIII loading time is like hell

then let it be and change your game options to auto-targeting.

either way, good luck.

gb027 · 06-26-23, 03:24 AM

Have installed ‘Dark Waters’ and I am very impressed by the graphics and make over from OM! One question , can anyone tell me what the Blue pencil in the attack map screen does? The red pencil can be used to make x marks. Not sure what to do with the blue pencil. Thanks.

propbeanie · 06-26-23, 02:04 PM

One of the pencils can be used to call on scout aircraft. You either click on the pencil, then an airbase and draw a line toward where you want the search, or the other way around... sigh - a mind is a terrible thing to lose...

KaleunMarco · 06-26-23, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

One of the pencils can be used to call on scout aircraft. You either click on the pencil, then an airbase and draw a line toward where you want the search, or the other way around... sigh - a mind is a terrible thing to lose...

yeah, i know what you mean.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by gb027

Have installed ‘Dark Waters’ and I am very impressed by the graphics and make over from OM! One question , can anyone tell me what the Blue pencil in the attack map screen does? The red pencil can be used to make x marks. Not sure what to do with the blue pencil. Thanks.

forget the pencil.
click on the airbase, then click where you want them to patrol.
there are limits/restrictions/exclusions to the range of the a/c and it is all built-into the the game parms by the time you get to this point.

gb027 · 06-27-23, 12:07 AM

Thanks for the reply. I’m used to sending scouts out in OM. So it’s the same method in Dark Waters. The blue pencil confused me!

Dedushka · 07-02-23, 07:05 AM

After a long time I noticed 1 interesting thing. I am not sure it is due to this mod, but while submerged my batteries can work infinitely. 1-2% of batteries stays forever. I am not checked it for a weeks, but I spent some days under water (i disabled co2 to test) with working engines and I still could sail. Sure, in my setting I do not have infinite batteries.

KaleunMarco · 07-02-23, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedushka

After a long time I noticed 1 interesting thing. I am not sure it is due to this mod, but while submerged my batteries can work infinitely. 1-2% of batteries stays forever. I am not checked it for a weeks, but I spent some days under water (i disabled co2 to test) with working engines and I still could sail. Sure, in my setting I do not have infinite batteries.

that is an SH4 game feature. a Kaleun cannot truly exhaust his batteries totally.

Dedushka · 07-02-23, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

that is an SH4 game feature. a Kaleun cannot truly exhaust his batteries totally.

Not a big problem. But this is sad you can use the engine

propbeanie · 07-08-23, 12:19 PM

Ahh... but some day when your boat runs out of diesel, you will be glad you can submerge and make it back to port on your inexhaustible battery bank...

I ran out several hundred miles from Midway in a Gato boat one time, and was able to do that... took a while, and you do have to surface to vent the boat, but it is possible you might not have to abandon a career and face a court martial...

Trost · 07-08-23, 02:49 PM

Installed following the instructions to the letter, CTD's right after loading into a mission, turns out i forgot to apply LAA again on the new install. If you had the same problem as me that should be the solution

Bartholomew Roberts · 07-18-23, 02:58 PM

the stadimeter is broken. The RAOBF calculation is not base on mil. And how can you switch AA like stock game? I tried II, VII, and XXI with multiple AA installed, press F11 several times and it just stick to the aft AA.

KaleunMarco · 07-18-23, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts

the stadimeter is broken. The RAOBF calculation is not base on mil. And how can you switch AA like stock game? I tried II, VII, and XXI with multiple AA installed, press F11 several times and it just stick to the aft AA.

multiple questions.......

german uboats did not have stadimeters as US boats did. someone created a mod that activated a US-like stadimeter that works on one of scopes, i think the night scope (i cannot remember

). that is only relief that DW can offer.

concerning the RAOBF, another forum user will have to respond to that as i play with auto-targeting.

there should be an additional icon in the flak-group of icons that will allow you to swap user control to another set of flak guns.
this is a screen from a 9C. look at the lower left of the shot. i've clicked on the flak gun. the first two icons allow me to switch between a light MG and a Heavy MG. you should find the same options if your boat is equipped with multiple flak stations.

Bartholomew Roberts · 07-18-23, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

multiple questions.......

german uboats did not have stadimeters as US boats did. someone created a mod that activated a US-like stadimeter that works on one of scopes, i think the night scope (i cannot remember

). that is only relief that DW can offer.

concerning the RAOBF, another forum user will have to respond to that as i play with auto-targeting.

there should be an additional icon in the flak-group of icons that will allow you to swap user control to another set of flak guns.
this is a screen from a 9C. look at the lower left of the shot. i've clicked on the flak gun. the first two icons allow me to switch between a light MG and a Heavy MG. you should find the same options if your boat is equipped with multiple flak stations.

Thanks for reply
Well, at least the stadimeter can now be used as a height indicator.

The IX class did have two button, but later version has mutiple light flak ,IXC has four aa guns, so does the IID, VIIC, XXI. They all have two 20mm or two 20mm plus 37mm, there is no swich button. the stock game swich position every time you push F11. So it's definitely a bug.

More discovery, the stock IXD2 works fine with all 3 AA guns switchable, and 3 buttons in aa menu. Just want to know how new boat gets wrong.

Bartholomew Roberts · 07-19-23, 03:50 AM

I found in the OrdersBar.cfg it reads

Button4Type=Checkbox
Button4CommandWhenClicked=A02gun_camera
Button4CommandToCheckIfIsChecked=Is_A02_camera_sta tion_Active
Button4CommandToCheckIfIsEnabled=Is_A02_Available
Button4CommandToCheckIfIsVisible=Is_German_A02_Ins talled
Button4ImageIndex=3
Button4IconRowColumn=6,3
Button4Tooltip=5716

5716 is GO TO 2ND LIGHT AA GUN button

so it might not meet all conditions for the new ship.

Even 9c40 which has Turm9c_2 has this bug, by change AA type in 3 positions, sometime a 2nd button show up, never all there aa normal. 9c40 is identical to stock 9d2 and they share the same aa weapon. Their upcge and UnitParts.upc files are almost the same. I checked Turm9c_2_hd.cam and Turm9c_2_hd.sim , they do lack a third camera shell and turret, after I added raw chunk from 9d2's file. Nothing changed, still lack at least one AA button.

And for XXI, it has same A01 A02 cam with the stock XVIII, so does the sim file of turret control, only difference is stock XVIII has conning seprated in objects folder. Stock XVIII has two AA buttons, the XXI only has front AA show as Aft Flak.

IID has a extra AA in conning tower, the AA on front deck is unable to control, It's in the first trainning mission so easy to find out.

Philipcrash · 07-19-23, 05:56 AM

How exactly do SMA's interact with the world? If i launch SMA's, do they stay there? Do they Despawn or will they stay there forever, and what about ships? How do i know if one can even hit them if they arent loaded in, and what about rewards for a sinking a ship with a Mine? What's the idea on how they are meant to work?

I tested around with them a bit myself, but they after launching they don't lose their momentum and drift a away, forever. Also their launch animation plays on a loop every a few minutes, And as far as i know they either despawn when you go away, or just drift away forever. I don't think these work as they should.

Im using a Type VIIB with SMA's for this, in 1939.

06-26-23, 03:24 AM	#1727
gb027 Watch Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 25 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 2	Attack map blue pencil Have installed ‘Dark Waters’ and I am very impressed by the graphics and make over from OM! One question , can anyone tell me what the Blue pencil in the attack map screen does? The red pencil can be used to make x marks. Not sure what to do with the blue pencil. Thanks.

06-26-23, 02:04 PM	#1728
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	One of the pencils can be used to call on scout aircraft. You either click on the pencil, then an airbase and draw a line toward where you want the search, or the other way around... sigh - a mind is a terrible thing to lose... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

07-08-23, 12:19 PM	#1734
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,749 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Ahh... but some day when your boat runs out of diesel, you will be glad you can submerge and make it back to port on your inexhaustible battery bank... I ran out several hundred miles from Midway in a Gato boat one time, and was able to do that... took a while, and you do have to surface to vent the boat, but it is possible you might not have to abandon a career and face a court martial... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

07-08-23, 02:49 PM	#1735
Trost Watch Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 19 Downloads: 232 Uploads: 0	Installed following the instructions to the letter, CTD's right after loading into a mission, turns out i forgot to apply LAA again on the new install. If you had the same problem as me that should be the solution Last edited by Trost; 07-08-23 at 03:00 PM.

07-18-23, 02:58 PM	#1736
Bartholomew Roberts Bosun Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 69 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 2	BUG problem the stadimeter is broken. The RAOBF calculation is not base on mil. And how can you switch AA like stock game? I tried II, VII, and XXI with multiple AA installed, press F11 several times and it just stick to the aft AA.

06-27-23, 12:07 AM	#1730
gb027 Watch Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Queensland Australia Posts: 25 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 2	Thanks for the reply. I’m used to sending scouts out in OM. So it’s the same method in Dark Waters. The blue pencil confused me!

07-02-23, 07:05 AM	#1731
Dedushka Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 11 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	After a long time I noticed 1 interesting thing. I am not sure it is due to this mod, but while submerged my batteries can work infinitely. 1-2% of batteries stays forever. I am not checked it for a weeks, but I spent some days under water (i disabled co2 to test) with working engines and I still could sail. Sure, in my setting I do not have infinite batteries.

07-19-23, 03:50 AM	#1739
Bartholomew Roberts Bosun Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 69 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 2	I found in the OrdersBar.cfg it reads Button4Type=Checkbox Button4CommandWhenClicked=A02gun_camera Button4CommandToCheckIfIsChecked=Is_A02_camera_sta tion_Active Button4CommandToCheckIfIsEnabled=Is_A02_Available Button4CommandToCheckIfIsVisible=Is_German_A02_Ins talled Button4ImageIndex=3 Button4IconRowColumn=6,3 Button4Tooltip=5716 5716 is GO TO 2ND LIGHT AA GUN button so it might not meet all conditions for the new ship. Even 9c40 which has Turm9c_2 has this bug, by change AA type in 3 positions, sometime a 2nd button show up, never all there aa normal. 9c40 is identical to stock 9d2 and they share the same aa weapon. Their upcge and UnitParts.upc files are almost the same. I checked Turm9c_2_hd.cam and Turm9c_2_hd.sim , they do lack a third camera shell and turret, after I added raw chunk from 9d2's file. Nothing changed, still lack at least one AA button. And for XXI, it has same A01 A02 cam with the stock XVIII, so does the sim file of turret control, only difference is stock XVIII has conning seprated in objects folder. Stock XVIII has two AA buttons, the XXI only has front AA show as Aft Flak. IID has a extra AA in conning tower, the AA on front deck is unable to control, It's in the first trainning mission so easy to find out. Last edited by Bartholomew Roberts; 07-19-23 at 07:24 AM.

07-19-23, 05:56 AM	#1740
Philipcrash Bilge Rat Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 1 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	How exactly do SMA's interact with the world? If i launch SMA's, do they stay there? Do they Despawn or will they stay there forever, and what about ships? How do i know if one can even hit them if they arent loaded in, and what about rewards for a sinking a ship with a Mine? What's the idea on how they are meant to work? I tested around with them a bit myself, but they after launching they don't lose their momentum and drift a away, forever. Also their launch animation plays on a loop every a few minutes, And as far as i know they either despawn when you go away, or just drift away forever. I don't think these work as they should. Im using a Type VIIB with SMA's for this, in 1939.