China 'locks radar' on Japan ship

Jimbuna · 02-05-13, 04:19 PM

Looks like things are heating up...only a matter of time before China acts like North Korea did in the Cheonan incident perhaps?

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A Chinese navy frigate has locked its weapon-targeting radar on a Japanese ship, Tokyo says, amid mounting tensions over a territorial row.
Japanese Defence Minister Itsunori Onodera said the incident happened on 30 January near islands claimed by both nations in the East China Sea.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21337444

TLAM Strike · 02-05-13, 05:43 PM

Meanwhile down in the bowels of that Japanese warship the ELINT boys were marking that tape "FWD TO USN ONI".

Oberon · 02-05-13, 09:04 PM

For a secretive nation, they can certainly do some dumb things at times. Some captain is going to get a kicking before he gets a commendation.

I still can't see it coming to much more than perhaps a few low calibre shots fired. Although one does have to wonder, if China keeps up like this, will Japan seek to overturn Article 9 of the constitution?

ETR3(SS) · 02-05-13, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Meanwhile down in the bowels of that Japanese warship the ELINT boys were marking that tape "FWD TO USN ONI".

Gotta love ESM!

Cybermat47 · 02-05-13, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

ONI

Eh!? What do those damn child-napping creeps got to do with this!?

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Office_of_Naval_Intelligence

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 02-08-13, 12:36 AM

The Japanese are lucky the Chinese government was not coordinated this time. They left themselves rather wide open by not producing any navigational and track data to go along with their claim.

If the Chinese were coordinated they could have tried to claim the Japanese steered their vessels and heloes in provocative ways and the Chinese were trying to warn them off.

Even if they have to completely fabricate the navigational chart to do it, it'll be difficult for the Japanese to counter. They can produce their own data but then they'll have lost the initiative and China can say they are lying. Since that was rather far out on the high seas, there probably were no third parties with the combination of means with "eyes" on the incident area, credibility and neutrality to make definitive support for any side (for example if an American satellite or sub saw something, well, America is Japan's ally...).

On a basic level, it is hard to think that the Chinese will give up their fire control radar information for nothing, so the tendency will be to give some credence to the Chinese claim.

The Japanese didn't do the PR as well as they should have and should count themselves lucky IMHO.

02-05-13, 05:43 PM	#2
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Meanwhile down in the bowels of that Japanese warship the ELINT boys were marking that tape "FWD TO USN ONI". __________________

02-05-13, 09:04 PM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	For a secretive nation, they can certainly do some dumb things at times. Some captain is going to get a kicking before he gets a commendation. I still can't see it coming to much more than perhaps a few low calibre shots fired. Although one does have to wonder, if China keeps up like this, will Japan seek to overturn Article 9 of the constitution?

02-08-13, 12:36 AM	#6
Kazuaki Shimazaki II Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The Japanese are lucky the Chinese government was not coordinated this time. They left themselves rather wide open by not producing any navigational and track data to go along with their claim. If the Chinese were coordinated they could have tried to claim the Japanese steered their vessels and heloes in provocative ways and the Chinese were trying to warn them off. Even if they have to completely fabricate the navigational chart to do it, it'll be difficult for the Japanese to counter. They can produce their own data but then they'll have lost the initiative and China can say they are lying. Since that was rather far out on the high seas, there probably were no third parties with the combination of means with "eyes" on the incident area, credibility and neutrality to make definitive support for any side (for example if an American satellite or sub saw something, well, America is Japan's ally...). On a basic level, it is hard to think that the Chinese will give up their fire control radar information for nothing, so the tendency will be to give some credence to the Chinese claim. The Japanese didn't do the PR as well as they should have and should count themselves lucky IMHO.