Wuhan virus 2020

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I can wholeheartedly agree making a COVID vaccine available as soon as possible to the elderly and those at risk due to comorbidities. But political mandates that it be forced upon perfectly healthy children and adults is imo utter nonsense. It’s imo a political power grab and fear mongers making a profit.

Very young children have weaker immune systems than adults, so shouldn’t they get the vaccine as well?

[Skybird]

As a matter of fact we have more children and teenager in hospitals over r here than last year at this time of the year. Serious cases.



There is a follow-on effect. Becasue the Covid 19 poandemic has lasted so long now, measurements against it have helped to "de-train" the immune sdystem of everbyody and of children especially, too. Thats why additonally to the Covid-induced surge of children flooding the hopsitals, we also see many children suffering hospitalizations from other infects of the breathing system, as well as other deseases. this is no arghument to not maintain Covid-19 measurements, it is exactly the opposite: an argument to do what can be done to make the pandemic last short. Preferrably without having the masses drawing lots who has to suffer hospitalizations and ICU.



Natural immunity is all nice and well. Until on the way there it is your family suffering losses.



Get those damn vaccinations, idiots. Shifts probabilities in your and everybody's favour.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Well, now that we've established reality and all ... do you get easily offended when asked such? There are some places (hospitals, clinics, etc.) which will ask you a battery of questions without you even coughing (in order to protect others). An individual may, if they are concerned. So, is it the question that bothers you or is it the reality? As for me, I answer the questions, honestly, and go on with life.

You assume too much. Nothing offends me these days. I was answering the question. COVID is real. I'm not sure what was lost in translation.

There are some hospitals and specialists that ask nothing when arriving to an appointment. In fact, of the numerous medical visits my wife and I have had in the past year just one asked if my wife was vaccinated and if not does she want it. What is your point?

Masks are told to be worn for those that cough or may be around others that may cough. Maybe that is something you missed?

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

You assume too much. Nothing offends me these days. I was answering the question. COVID is real. I'm not sure what was lost in translation.

There are some hospitals and specialists that ask nothing when arriving to an appointment. In fact, of the numerous medical visits my wife and I have had in the past year just one asked if my wife was vaccinated and if not does she want it. What is your point?

Masks are told to be worn for those that cough or may be around others that may cough. Maybe that is something you missed?

Talk about assumption.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Very young children have weaker immune systems than adults, so shouldn’t they get the vaccine as well?

That is up to the parents and their doctor. Not you, me or politicians.

[Skybird]

Not if attending school in presence is mandatory and Family A's spoiled but healthy brat is demanded to sit next to family B's spoiled and very infested plague carrier, spitting the virus on him or her and thus having brat A bringing the bug back home to family A as well.



Your freedom ends where you put others at risk or force others to share risk and consequences that you have chosen for yourself. You represent the risk - YOU and nobody else has to stay away. And if you don't, you must accept to get asked/controlled/tested. And whether you like it or not interests nobody. The problem is not the others. The problem is YOU.

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Your freedom ends where you put others at risk or force others to share risk and consequences that you have chosen for yourself. You represent the risk - YOU and nobody else has to stay away. And if you don't, you must accept to get asked/controlled/tested. And whether you like it or not interests nobody. The problem is not the others. The problem is YOU.

Agree with Skybird in this.

It's you who are solely responsible in this epidemic and not your neighbour.

Like I'm responsible towards others.

non responsible behavior could cost life

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Not if attending school in presence is mandatory and Family A's spoiled but healthy brat is demanded to sit next to family B's spoiled and very infested plague carrier, spitting the virus on him or her and thus having brat A bringing the bug back home to family A as well.



Your freedom ends where you put others at risk or force others to share risk and consequences that you have chosen for yourself. You represent the risk - YOU and nobody else has to stay away. And if you don't, you must accept to get asked/controlled/tested. And whether you like it or not interests nobody. The problem is not the others. The problem is YOU.

I thought the vaccine was to protect you. Not others.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I thought the vaccine was to protect you. Not others.

Apparently they protect nobody vaxxed or not. I'm glad that I now have natural immunity as it's the only real vaccination you can get for the China flu.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

Apparently they protect nobody vaxxed or not. I'm glad that I now have natural immunity as it's the only real vaccination you can get for the China flu.

The idea of herd immunity was wishful thinking. Specifically when the great minds repeatedly answered questions with, "We don't know". Creating this idea that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated was wrong. Notice Biden no longer says it. Yet, he pushes a mandate. Fully accepting this mandate sets a precedence for the future. Again, the vaccine it protect those that have had it administered. The pointing of fingers at those unvaccinated does exactly what?

And Arlo 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.......

[mapuc]

There are those who refuse to take the vaccine and among these there is those who take no responsibility in their behavior.

Natural immunity is far better than the vaccine-This does not mean that you should try get infected-NO the aftermath from a covid-19 infection can be severe, it's better to get these jabs instead.

A survey here in Denmark have shown that the immunity from the vaccines vanish after 6-8 month. There was almost no anti-thing in the blood of the Danes who got two shots from Moderna.

This is why elderly and vulnerable people get this third booster shot.

The comment above is based on what I've seen, heard and read in Danish mainstream media.

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

There are those who refuse to take the vaccine and among these there is those who take no responsibility in their behavior.



Markus

Of what use is a vaccine that does not prevent a vaccinated person from contracting the virus the vaccine was created for?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Of what use is a vaccine that does not prevent a vaccinated person from contracting the virus the vaccine was created for?

How high is the risk to get infected by Corona
when you are vaccinated than those who aren't ?

Let 100 Vaccinated and 100 unvaccinated be in a room with a couple who are infected. Let them be there for an hour.

How many of both will be infected ?

Markus

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mapuc

How high is the risk to get infected by Corona
when you are vaccinated than those who aren't ?

Let 100 Vaccinated and 100 unvaccinated be in a room with a couple who are infected. Let them be there for an hour.

How many of both will be infected ?

Markus

200 will be infected. Some will have not symptoms. Other unvaccinated will get the full affect of COVID or maybe a mild case. The vaccinated are not immune to contracting the virus as we now know. These 100 vaccinated will be infected but will recover quickly.