US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

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Overall, we rate Next News Network Extreme Right Biased and Questionable based on the routine publication of right-wing propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as several failed fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/next-news-network/


Makes one wonder, if there's such a bombshell like this, why go on some obscure youtube news channel known for BS to reveal it?

[u crank]

Well this kinda confirms what Republicans and people on the right have been saying about Twitter and Facebook for some time.

This morning, Andy Stone, Facebook’s policy communications manager (and, per his bio, a former staffer for Barbara Boxer, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and the House Majority PAC), announced that the social-media giant would begin “reducing” the “distribution” of a New York Post investigation into emails purporting that Joe Biden met with a top executive from the Ukrainian natural-gas firm Burisma Holdings at the behest of his son Hunter Biden.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/...r-biden-story/

Instead of simply asking pertinent questions, or debunking the Post’s reporting, a media blackout was initiated. A number of well-known journalists warned colleagues and their sizable social-media audiences not to share the story.

So much for a free press.

By the afternoon, Twitter had joined Facebook in suppressing the article, not only barring its users from sharing it with followers, but barring them sharing it through direct messages as well. It locked the accounts of White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, the Post, and many others for retweeting the story.

The most generous reading of Twitter and Facebook’s actions is that the rules are evolving, messy, and inadvertently unfair. A less generous — but more plausible — reading is that the tech giants single out specific stories damaging to progressives’ preferred presidential candidate.

[Cybermat47]

If they are suppressing stories detrimental to Biden for no reason other than they want him to be POTUS, that is pretty scummy. Democracy only works if people are well informed, which is increasingly difficult now due to the bias we see from both sides of the media. I’m more familiar with the fake news created by pro-Republican media outlets, and it’s just absurd.

[Catfish]

"How the right went far-right"
No, it's really interesting.

https://prospect.org/culture/books/h...ent-far-right/

[Skybird]

"Die Denke is alles kaputt."

[Catfish]

^ Joo..

Die Lügenpresse unterdrückt unsere Naziparolen. Skandal!

[Bilge_Rat]

interesting article by Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept blasting Facebook and Twitter for banning/restricting the NY Post story on the Joe Biden/Burisma/Ukraine scandal:

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/...t-they-censor/

Glenn Greenwald is a well known left-wing/anti-Trump journalist. When even he thinks Twitter/FB went too far, it is obvious something is out of whack.

I have to admit I don't understand what the Dem operatives/MSM/Twitter/FB are thinking. By trying to stop people from reading the NY Post story, you make it an even bigger story that everyone is now aware of.

[Catfish]

[Skybird]

Trump does what he has done all his life: playing foul.

http://translate.google.com/translat..._12546607.html


Americans should be more concerned about kidnapped children who are being murdered in secret subterranean state laboratories sponsored by Trump and his multimillionaire friends, where a hormone cocktail is being extracted from the young victims' pituitary via a technology that has been found in that crashed spaceship the reptiloids have left behind on Earth's surface before they dug their tunnels and migrated into the big inner cave at the core of planet earth. The design of subway tunnels would never have become this advanced without the Reptiloids' tunnels as exmaples, so our subways today proove pretty much that the Reptiloids do exist for sure and that Earth is hollow at its core. that stinking rich millionaires slurp hormone cocktails won from children's brains - that is the only real scandal here. And its all Trump's fault. Biden obviously is the only one who ever has survived this barbaric medical procedure.

More or less.

[mapuc]

Was it Sanders or is it Biden who should be or is far left, as someone wrote he is almost an marxist ?

If it was Biden, then I get this picture.

Biden wins the election and only a few days after 20th of January he does what other communist leaders have done before when they wanted to fight a riot or an uprising...use of military force.

Like we saw in 1956 Hungary and in 1968 Czechoslovakia

I know sometimes my imagination runs away with me.

Markus

[Catfish]

^ no it is actually that everyone who disagrees with Trump is bad for America, and so is called "left". So "left" is bad and because it is, Trump (at the right) is automatically good.

Neither Biden nor Sanders are really left from a neutral point of view (in european eyes they are both on the political right), but from Trump's view they are left.

Not that Trump really thinks that they are left, or that they are bad, or even more bad than him (hardly believable, even for Trump), but he has to portray himself as "better", so he gets more votes when he bedevils the "left". Or what some people think that is. Not that he has any own idea or stance about politics, he could run for the democrats or Nazis or the martian abortion party, he would just adjust his slogans to get more votes.

So he says Biden and Sanders are "communists". Which is of course a lie. It is the new think that when you are enabled to pay your bills and have your kids raised with a reasonable education by being paid a fair loan, and expect reasonable health care, and are not a born millionaire, you are automatically "left". And so you are bad.

Easy.

[mapuc]

It seems like you could be right.

I made a search for both

For Biden I asked How far left is Biden exactly

I picked the first proposal from google

“Biden is not a socialist. He’s not a radical. But he is running on the most liberal policy platform of any Democratic candidate in modern American history. And if he wins the presidency, it could usher in a period of progressive victories unlike anything since the Great Society of the 1960s.”

https://news.yahoo.com/just-how-far-...3H_PqE4t-TLOrR

For Sanders I asked How far left is Sanders exactly

I picked the first proposal from google

To some Democrats, being called “left wing” is an epithet. But to Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, the self-described democratic socialist now running for the “big-D” Democratic presidential nomination, it’s a badge of honor.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...Bernie-Sanders.

Markus

[Catfish]

But "social democratic" is not "socialist", and not "communist".
For Trump or his followers, the most politically "right" danish party would still be "left", because even those want fair loans and equality, and affordable health insurance guaranteed by the state. Regardless what they say about immigrants.

I guess Sanders wears it as a badge of honour because he is for more fairness regarding loans, pensions and healthcare, and Trump stands for the opposite - in Sanders view.
If Sanders would be elected PotUS he would never erect a socialist rule like Trump claims. Bernie Sanders still is no real "socialist" - and whatever he never had or has a chance in America.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Was it Sanders or is it Biden who should be or is far left, as someone wrote he is almost an marxist ?

Sanders.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Catfish

"How the right went far-right"
No, it's really interesting.

https://prospect.org/culture/books/h...ent-far-right/

I can certainly see how you get your outlook about the American right by reading this kind of stuff.

In my humble opinion the danger that America will become a Fascist state is unlikely. I think the real danger is from the rise of the authoritarian Left in politics, higher education and the public sector. That combined with the violent street 'demonstrations' is the real threat to the Liberal democratic order. Richard Spencer can only dream about having that kind of political power and street muscle.