SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997 |
|
06-05-20, 06:47 AM | #1 | |
Born to Run Silent
|
Quote:
I think we all agree with that. I question the immediate jump to the racial element. Calling it police brutality, I understand. |
|
06-05-20, 07:22 AM | #2 |
Soaring
|
One does not see much when living one's life with eyes shut. Those willing to see racism where it exists, do see it. Those determined to deny its existence, will not see it.
But like in Germany the new Libertarians did themselves no favour by not wiping out the Nazi influence within their rows that now takes their party over more and more, anti-racism movements in America did themselves no favour by allowign to get hijacked by far-left ideologists and socialists, environmentalists, gender-activists and fascismo-feminists. Justified topics get hijacked this way, distorted and watered down until they cannot be recognised anymore. That way, the hijackers corrupt them. And the original topic becomes unsupportable that way. On the police itself, usually there are great differences being seen between polices in Europe or Japan, Australia - and the US. In the US the training is much shorter and the focus is more on combat fighting it gets reported again and again this way, as if the police were a military unit going to battles. Soft skills (psychology, communication, conflict management), are undervalued, where in othe Wetsenr cioutnries the yget much more time to be learne dand trained. Also many police units have been militarised also materialistically, with equipping them with military equipment. Finally, many former soldiers and ex military people go to the police after they left the armed forces. That attitude no doubt carries over.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Last edited by Skybird; 06-05-20 at 08:05 AM. |
06-05-20, 07:48 AM | #3 | |
Willing Webfooted Beast
|
Quote:
Which raises the issue of what exactly is wrong with these departments. Is there improper training, or some kind of “us vs them” mentality when it comes to dealing with the public? Or is it simply that some people trip on power (which in some cases emboldens them to act on their prejudices), and most of the department chooses to stand by a colleague rather than investigate properly? Or is it a mix of all those factors?
__________________
Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394 |
|
06-05-20, 08:23 AM | #4 |
Born to Run Silent
|
I'm no expert, but I think it is "some kind of “us vs them” mentality when it comes to dealing with the public" to a large degree. Our society is changing, people in big cities, and the cops change with them.
I know, someone will be clever and post Aristotle or someone from 2000BC commenting on how civilization is going to ruin, etc. Regardless, that's how I see it. My short stint teaching school confirmed a lot of that thinking. I certainly know in 1969 if I had said F --- this in a classroom, I wouldn't be able to sit down for a week. Today it's different. Society is different. And people who are tasked with dealing with the bottom feeders of society are probably becoming jaded and coarse too. |
06-05-20, 08:24 AM | #5 |
Chief of the Boat
|
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) |
06-05-20, 12:30 PM | #6 |
Dipped Squirrel Operative
|
Wtf and why did they do that? There is blood coming out of his ear, he surely has suffered a basal skull fracture. I hope he survives.
__________________
>^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. |
06-05-20, 12:48 PM | #7 | |
Chief of the Boat
|
Quote:
It shouldn't be hard to identify those responsible but there has to be a will there by the authorities
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim) |
|
06-05-20, 02:29 PM | #8 |
Fleet Admiral
|
(I haven't tried Edge yet)
The is a saying the straw that broke the camel's back. To use this as some kind of metaphor The Camel is USA the straw who are loaded on this camel is all the problems which have been luring in the society for years. The killing of George Floyd was the straw that... I interpret this demonstration and riot as a common denominator of all the problems the American citizen is struggling with Markus |
06-05-20, 03:04 PM | #9 |
Soaring
|
White House fortifies its perimeter as if it were the Alamo, extending the barriers and fences outward further at least twice. A "president" connecting to his people... And free of any instincts cautioning him, Trump in words again today has spilled oil into the fire. This man's head is so deeply stuck in its mad mind, it will never find back into the normal world again.
Run, rabbit, run, dig that hole, forget the sun, and when at least the work is done, don't sit down, its time to dig another one. For long you live, and high you fly, but only if you ride the tide, and balanced on the biggest wave you race towards an early grave.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
|
06-05-20, 06:08 PM | #10 |
Navy Seal
|
This is disgraceful. This older gentleman was hardly a threat to these officers. The 2 police officers identified in the video have been suspended. 57 members of the emergency response team resigned in support of these 2 officers. This video took place in Buffalo, New York. The elderly man in the video is in the hospital in serious condition but he is alive. Hopefully with good hospital care, he will be alright. |
06-05-20, 08:31 AM | #11 | |
Old enough to know better
|
Quote:
The “us vs them” mentality is also a real problem. A big contributing factor is police unions. Many times efforts to reform police behavior are resisted by powerful unions. The current head of the Minneapolis police union is Bob Kroll. He has a record of disciplinary actions against him including a couple of suspensions and a lawsuit against him. Why is this guy in charge of that union?
__________________
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke |
|
06-05-20, 09:31 AM | #12 | |
Ace of the Deep
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,046
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
|
Quote:
|
|
06-05-20, 10:31 AM | #13 |
Shark above Space Chicken
|
American English uses the term and the word fight for everything. Fight cancer, fight poverty, etc., never help cure or help eliminate.
__________________
"However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie |
06-05-20, 10:41 AM | #14 |
Lucky Jack
|
This is the problem:
And this isn't a singular case, the police seem to be aiming their less-lethal rounds to the head area all too often. Another example, here a 16yo is shot in the head with a less-lethal round, he wasn't being violent. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...tice_for_levi/ |
06-05-20, 10:45 AM | #15 |
Navy Seal
|
You should check in more often Dowly ... How's it going over in Finland?
__________________
pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau .. |
Tags |
police, riots |
|
|