Video emerges of Minneapolis police killing a citizen - - Riots

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I know, right? One thing we can count on, the left will eventually destroy itself with this lunacy.

Because the far-left and the centre-left are totally the same thing...

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

What does that have to do with a cop killing an unarmed man?

Maybe our cops have been dealing with dirtbags for so long that dirtbag is all they can now see. Maybe the good/smart cops all quit because they tire of dealing with the dirtbags day after day with no support from their mayors/governors/judges/DAs. Maybe the only people they can get to be cops are now sociopaths themselves.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

What a load, what a load...

Antifa defaced a statue of Matthias Baldwin in Philadelphia, spray-painting the words "murderer" and "colonizer" near his name despite the fact that he fought against slavery, fought for black voting rights, and even helped build schools for black children.

https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa...baldwin-statue

It is uncertain what the radicals want or are asking for when they deface the statue of an important figure in the abolition movement, but many in Philadelphia are wanting precisely what Baldwin fought and advocated for 200 years ago.

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by u crank

https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa...baldwin-statue

Don’t forget about when people defaced the memorial to the 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Regiment - the most famous all-black US Army unit of the American Civil War. Apparently, though unverified, the people responsible were white people using BLM for their own agenda, which explains why they vandalised a memorial to the very people who ended North American slavery by wiping out the CSA rebels.

At least they didn’t destroy it. The only statues I can understand being destroyed are ones of actual destructive racists, like King Leopold II who murdered 10-15 million Congolese, or Alexander H Stephens who justified and fought to keep slavery legal because he viewed black people as inferior

Worth noting that that news site doesn’t exactly have a glowing track record, though: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-post-millennial/

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

[vienna]

It is also quite possible the vandalism may have been a case of mistaken identity: there is a well-known Confederate General by the name of William Baldwin who, at the time of his death, was a Brigadier General in the CSA; there is also a Confederate Colonel John Brown Baldwin, who was also a Confederacy political figure, so it isn't a stretch to suppose the vandals didn't know exactly the differences in the various Baldwins...


Incidentally, how was it determined the vandals were associated with Antifa or BLM? Given that Antifa doesn't really exist as an organized, cohesive entity and has no accurately identifiable leadership or even an 'org chart' and that the exact nature, extent and identities of its "membership" is unknown (even to Federal law enforcement), exactly how was it determined the vandals were part of Antifa? Were they all wearing "I'm With Antifa" t-shirts?...

...and the same goes with the BLM claims about the vandals: how exactly were they positively identified with BLM, when BLM is also a blanket name for any number of non-cohesive localized groups who are, at best, local grass-roots groups? As far as I know, there is no such thing as a national, organized BLM structure able to claim oversight and control of the various local BLM groups...


Maybe the truth is simple: the Trump minions and the Trumpettes know their base is markedly diminishing as are the hopes of keeping the Great Yellow Idiot in the Oval Office come November and they also know the slide in Trump's appeal to even his base has been precipitous; faced with the reality that people who had been content to just remain silent about the excesses and failures of Trump have now begun to openly and loudly express their misgivings about the mess the last three and a half years of Trump has created, the minions and Trumpettes have gone back to the old playbook of desperation: if you can't win on your own merits, make the people believe there are boogeymen organizing to "threaten" them and the people will rush back into the fold; while that may have worked in the past, the times they have a-changed and social media, the pervasive nature of cell phone videos, the growing inability of Trump to continue to control the narrative to his will, and the wholesale defection of businesses, industries, social organizations, and even some of those who had been sympathetic in the past to very public support of the changing social norms has amounted to a very pointed repudiation of the Trump administration. There really must be a gnawing concern in the minion and Trumpette camps when they see so many more White faces participating in the protests than ever before...





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[Col7777]

What do you guy in the US think of Candace Owens, you have to listen to the end as well by the way?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

It is also quite possible the vandalism may have been a case of mistaken identity: there is a well-known Confederate General by the name of William Baldwin who, at the time of his death, was a Brigadier General in the CSA; there is also a Confederate Colonel John Brown Baldwin, who was also a Confederacy political figure, so it isn't a stretch to suppose the vandals didn't know exactly the differences in the various Baldwins...


Incidentally, how was it determined the vandals were associated with Antifa or BLM?

Why does that matter?

So what your saying is that if they thought it was someone else it is ok to do that? I don't understand. Are you defending this kind of thing because these idiots don't know what they are doing? Do you think vandalism is the behavior of good citizens?

We all know who is doing this kind of thing. It is the radical elements of the Left in America. It's a mob. Doesn't matter what name you put on the mob does it?

[Commander Wallace]

Quick update.

Martin Gugino, 75-year-old protester pushed in Buffalo,by police, has brain injury and will start physical therapy.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/martin-gu...003730791.html

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Col7777

What do you guy in the US think of Candace Owens, you have to listen to the end as well by the way?

What I think about Candace Owen said is no different than my thoughts about Antifa, flag etiquette and the usual extremist political arguments.


What the bleepity bleep does it have to do with an elderly man being pushed to the ground or a suspect crying out for his mother and eventually dying while in police custody? I thought the argument was maybe thinking of ways to reverse the militarizing police training, outfitting, procedures and attitudes towards the general public they serve?


Oh well

[mapuc]

Said by a owner of a museum somewhere in Denmark.

Removing a statue or changing names of such and name of a street...does not erase history.

This is true..which made me wonder...now it is statues and streets, what will be next ?
Our history books or books with wrong contents
?
Well so far movies like Gone With the Wind have been removed from HBO and now an episode of Fawlty Towers (The Germans) have been removed.

Both had been classified as racist.

Markus

[Rockstar]

All I know is, if this kind of treatment by the state towards their citizens happened in some other country. We would be quick to call them freedom fighters and to demand we launch more freedom bombs.

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Well so far movies like Gone With the Wind have been removed from HBO and now an episode of Fawlty Towers (The Germans) have been removed.

Both had been classified as racist.

Markus

On the other hand HBOs removal (which I understand is temporary) propelled GWTW into Amazons number one best seller list.


Nothing makes Americans want to read a book or watch a movie more than one that has been banned.

‘Gone With the Wind’ Hits No. 1 on Amazon Best-Sellers Chart After HBO Max Drops Movie

“Gone With the Wind” zipped to the top of Amazon’s best-sellers sales chart for TV and movies, a day after WarnerMedia’s HBO Max pulled the movie for “racist depictions.”
Amazon bases its rankings on sales data. The site currently offers the 70th anniversary two-disc DVD edition of “Gone With the Wind” starting at $29.55, while Amazon Video offers the movie as a digital HD rental at $3.99 and for purchase at $9.99.
Meanwhile, on Apple’s iTunes movie chart for the U.S., “Gone With the Wind” on Wednesday was in the No. 5 spot (after “The Hunt,” “Birds of Prey,” “Bad Boys for Life,” and “The Invisible Man”).

https://variety.com/2020/digital/unc...ax-1234630577/

[mapuc]

< Yes they have removed these two titles-They will probably erase some scenes.

This has made people angry and now they want to original movie or series, that's why Gone With the Wind is number one on Amazon.

Markus

[Skybird]

Severla articles and essays I have red in the German press about the powerful Americna police unions protecting their members "no matter what" gave me the impression that much would be won if instead of discussions on dismantling the policie in general America should focus on replacing the police unions to cut back their overboarding power and influence. It seems they fight down an awful lot of charges and complaints against offenders in uniform. So an American Thatcher might be a good idea.

After that, a redesigning of general police doctrine seems to be a good idea. Plus longer, better, more diverse training. The training seems to lack seriously. Just 17 weeks on average. I dont get over this.

Dismantling the police in general? Please... come back to your senses, Lefty.