[REL] Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, full release

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by mikesn9

how does this fix the 'high noon' gauges?

Ahoy, mikesn9

This is a rough guess, here mike...

From what I gather, the Sargo & Salmon subs are stuck with a conning tower miss-call.... which, as you know, the sonar gear sits there in the conning tower.

My guess is, as the dial on the sonar has a controller for it, is likely the gauges are also on that same controller.. would be My guess..

Because of that miss-call of the tower... well, it causes the gauge controller to go skitzoid, as it is not finding the right tower call...

& if the sonar glitches... so too, do the other gauges... which gives us, the so called 'Infamous High Noon @ the Ok gauges corral''..

That, which faminus, pointed out, if I am correct... sets the sargo/salmon tower call, to rights... & in doing so, stops the skitzoid embolism, which short circuits the gauges freezing up...

Of course, that is all supposition, & My brain right now, is running on gas fumes, crappy adrenaline, bad batch of left over navy mud, aka coffee... & lack of sleep.

Of which, the lack of sleep, am going to remedy, right after I post this reply.

The bad batch of navy mud... right after I wake up from remedying the lack of sleep...

propbeanie, can either... confirm.. or deny, My as well as I can, laid out, crafted supposition here..

M. M.

[propbeanie]

We're not certain whether that is a "miscall" or purposeful. It was just a suggestion on my part that it ~might~ contribute. It is one of several aspects we are looking at. As with several aspects of the game though, you can "name" a device anything you want, and use it as something else, such as naming a 16" triple turret for the BB Missouri as a "deck gun" and using it on a submarine. Very possible to do. We haven't "seen" the reason for calling a Gato conn on the Salmon, Sargo or Tambor as of yet. I do remember we used to have troubles with the Tambor all of the time with one malady after another, and that swapping conns seemed to fix them, which is probably why the Gato conn is on the Tambor. I do not remember similar for the Salmon or Sargo. Going by the antennae mounts, I would prefer to have the correct conns on the subs, plus there is a difference in the shears area of the 3 conning towers involved. However, "why" were their calls put to Gato? and does that contribute to the noon gauges and sonar rotation? The submarine operates normally otherwise. You can dive, crash dive, etc., plus you can rotate the sonar head. You just do not get direct gauges feedback of such. Hopefully, when you dock and end patrol, all will be fine. You do have a 'digital' read-out of the sonar head at the station, and if you look at your HUD, those gauges are fine, so you can "safely" operate the boat back to base, and then see what happens next patrol, since the Save, Exit, Restore didn't do the trick. It might even be that you get far enough away from the "scene" of the incident, and then do a Save, Exit and restore, that they'll re-set.

Now, the main problem for me is that I cannot, in innumerable attempts recently and also over the years, replicate what you guys get. All of the testing we've done over time, the only incidents I got the noon gauges was back when it was the Tambor that was the problem child, and I'm talking back in the beta era, like around v0.56 or so. At that time, it occurred when the player's sub encountered a US AI submarine. That was actually "solved" when the AI subs were given their own Library of parts with unique IDs. Perhaps there is a little something in that regard that we missed back then. MM encountered the subs off of Camranh Bay, and who knows if mikesn9 didn't encounter one unbeknownst to him. We really don't know, but we are still digging. There are several possibilities, including the user's computer configuration. Who knows? Tough to say at this time.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

We're not certain whether that is a "miscall" or purposeful. It was just a suggestion on my part that it ~might~ contribute. It is one of several aspects we are looking at. As with several aspects of the game though, you can "name" a device anything you want, and use it as something else, such as naming a 16" triple turret for the BB Missouri as a "deck gun" and using it on a submarine. Very possible to do. We haven't "seen" the reason for calling a Gato conn on the Salmon, Sargo or Tambor as of yet. I do remember we used to have troubles with the Tambor all of the time with one malady after another, and that swapping conns seemed to fix them, which is probably why the Gato conn is on the Tambor. I do not remember similar for the Salmon or Sargo. Going by the antennae mounts, I would prefer to have the correct conns on the subs, plus there is a difference in the shears area of the 3 conning towers involved. However, "why" were their calls put to Gato? and does that contribute to the noon gauges and sonar rotation? The submarine operates normally otherwise. You can dive, crash dive, etc., plus you can rotate the sonar head. You just do not get direct gauges feedback of such. Hopefully, when you dock and end patrol, all will be fine. You do have a 'digital' read-out of the sonar head at the station, and if you look at your HUD, those gauges are fine, so you can "safely" operate the boat back to base, and then see what happens next patrol, since the Save, Exit, Restore didn't do the trick. It might even be that you get far enough away from the "scene" of the incident, and then do a Save, Exit and restore, that they'll re-set.

Now, the main problem for me is that I cannot, in innumerable attempts recently and also over the years, replicate what you guys get. All of the testing we've done over time, the only incidents I got the noon gauges was back when it was the Tambor that was the problem child, and I'm talking back in the beta era, like around v0.56 or so. At that time, it occurred when the player's sub encountered a US AI submarine. That was actually "solved" when the AI subs were given their own Library of parts with unique IDs. Perhaps there is a little something in that regard that we missed back then. MM encountered the subs off of Camranh Bay, and who knows if mikesn9 didn't encounter one unbeknownst to him. We really don't know, but we are still digging. There are several possibilities, including the user's computer configuration. Who knows? Tough to say at this time.

If needed.. I do have a back up copy made... (after the CTD when I went to start a patrol learned, by the way.. when I had a Sargo, based out of Surabaya with v1.39... ) of this incident.

I can zip that, post it to.. I think Mega & then get with you to add you to the lookie loo list there so you can then grab a copy of it.. or get with you on Discord & drop it so you can grab it there... (your choice).

If you need it, can even drop the '41 gramophone folder in with it.. again, your call, propbeanie...

M. M.



p.s.

That back up copy of the game save folder.. is the whole kit & kaboodle... not just a part of it, or 1/2 of it.. it is 100% complete... in its entirety.. by the way.

[propbeanie]

If you have the Save folder available, I'll take the whole thing, which would be easiest, please, along with the gramophone stuff.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

If you have the Save folder available, I'll take the whole thing, which would be easiest, please, along with the gramophone stuff.

No sweat... how do ya want to have it handed off...???

M. M.



p.s

Will zip the entirety, together, right after I post this reply post... & have it ready for hand off... just as soon as ya lemme know how to do so, sir.

[propbeanie]

Where ever you can post it, and send me a PM with the link. My sites do not allow me to have other people post on them anymore, since all of my "cloud" locations are "free" versions. The "good ole days" are long gone.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Where ever you can post it, and send me a PM with the link. My sites do not allow me to have other people post on them anymore, since all of my "cloud" locations are "free" versions. The "good ole days" are long gone.

I did send you a friend add on discord, propbeanie...

Will see what I can do with media whats-it.. or mega.. as a back up..

M. M.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Where ever you can post it, and send me a PM with the link. My sites do not allow me to have other people post on them anymore, since all of my "cloud" locations are "free" versions. The "good ole days" are long gone.

Ahoy, propbeanie... ol' chap...

Here @ Subsim, in the immortal words of... AOL...

''You've got mail.!''

M. M.

[propbeanie]

Now, one must remember history... AOL copied off of this fellow:

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Now, one must remember history... AOL copied off of this fellow:

Hopefully, that helps track down what is causing that 'High Noon'itis... propbeanie...

M. M.

[propbeanie]

I have the zipper, and I am in the process of going through what vickers03 did in his mod, and comparing apples to oranges, and grapes to grapefruit... I am sure it will be a "fruitful" endeavor... - as to "success", we'll have to wait and see.

[Arlo]

So far I'm having a great time with FOTRSU mod. It's good to not CTD.

[Arlo]

Not experiencing the 'high noon gauge' thing yet. Sank a Japanese ship in an escorted convoy in bad weather and managed to escape. So, when we were given orders to conduct 'unrestricted warfare' did that include hospital ships? Wondering what be waiting for me back at the base.

[mikesn9]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Not experiencing the 'high noon gauge' thing yet. Sank a Japanese ship in an escorted convoy in bad weather and managed to escape. So, when we were given orders to conduct 'unrestricted warfare' did that include hospital ships? Wondering what be waiting for me back at the base.

Hospital ships will get you large NEGATIVE renown points.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Not experiencing the 'high noon gauge' thing yet. Sank a Japanese ship in an escorted convoy in bad weather and managed to escape. So, when we were given orders to conduct 'unrestricted warfare' did that include hospital ships? Wondering what be waiting for me back at the base.

+1 on mikesn9

attempt to avoid sinking neutral shipping. try hard not to do that.