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06-28-22, 07:54 AM | #1 |
CTD - it's not just a job
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A hedgehog hit should be near catastrophic to a submarine. Two would usually "kill" it. I know this site is not the most reliable, but there are other sources:
Wikipedia: Hedgehog (weapon) toward the bottom 1/3 of the page: 4. A direct hit by one or two Hedgehog bombs was usually sufficient to sink a submarine.[citation needed]Who do you inquire of about that 'citation' detail?? I also wonder who they asked about that "...nor did it have the same psychological effect as a depth charge attack"... quote?... lol - In the game, you don't hear a drop as they're passing over, so you ~know~ they are up to something - but what?? Then BOOM BOOM "we're taking damage sir!" "we have heavy flooding sir!" "Medic!" spinning screen rapidly fading to black. Imagine real life... war is not good, and should not happen. Alas, man is greedy and wants what his neighbor possesses, so it shall be until we die. "whoah!!! where did this conversation go???"... lol - sorry |
06-28-22, 09:54 AM | #2 | |
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i was paraphrasing the Kaleun from Enemy Below.
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06-28-22, 01:39 PM | #3 | |
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That is the impression I received from my research, one hit by a hedgehog was usually enough to mortally wound it, two would sink it. DW did something I implemented into TMO which is how cumulative damage from depth charge attacks sink your boat in most cases vs "instadeath" when get too many hitpoints which is default SH 4 model. I've learned some things since at and some point will update TMO damage model again. Well, until I took two hits with no damage lol I feared hedgehog more, which is why i am modifying it in the mod. One big advantage player has with hedgehog is if you are submerged deep, they have a harder time getting hits. I took two hits out of 8 salvos of hedgehog fired and on the two salvos I was hit I was at 100-150 meters, vs when I was at 180-200 meters on others. The time it takes for them to fall to deep depth, sub even moving slowly will be clear, typically. Of course run risk of taking a hit at deep depth and hull collapse as well. I believe I read that it was recommended to escorts to not use hedgehog on targets at depth below 400 feet as depth charges worked better, given the excess pressure to "crack" the hull. |
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06-28-22, 04:24 PM | #4 | |
CTD - it's not just a job
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The deeper, the worser for the sub, I'm sure... I mention that "[citation needed]" quote again, since from what I have seen (or NOT seen), is that the U-Boats (and by extension, the BdU) had no idea what was taking them out. Mum's the word was SOP. Dunno fershure though, of course. My dad was a PO1c on LSTs beginning with Leyte Gulf landings, was six years active (WW2 & Korea), and had not heard of hedgehogs until 1955 when he started hanging out with my future uncle, who was a tin can sailor... Probably neither of them knew about the Mark14 issues at the time either... "Didn't concern me, didn't need to know"... lol |
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06-28-22, 04:30 PM | #5 |
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Someone needs to build the "Mouse trap" for smaller patrol vessels.
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06-28-22, 10:40 PM | #6 |
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06-29-22, 12:24 AM | #7 | |
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