Wuhan virus 2020

[Skybird]

The German RKI has calculated how many years victims of hospitalised Covid-19 cases have lost on average in life expectancy, and found it to be 9.6 years. If differentiating both genders, males tend to loose around three years more than women.

Early last year, the London analysts have done similiar calculations with the data available to them at that time, i think it was around April, and they came to comparable statements back then already. The effect is stronger in younger people (it shortens your life expectancy the more the younger you are).

Puts claims regarding "recovering from Covid" into relation, doesn't it. Having your life expectancy being shortened by a decade is not really what people usually mean when saying "recovery", eh?

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Only as long as you have not become one of the happy winners of getting hospitalised due to Covid-19. Because then you find yourself in hell'S kitchen.



Don't be dumb. Get the jab when getting an offer.



OIne in three infected has no symptoms. The horror trip you are saved from yourself if you get infected but are asymptomatic, you still can bring onto sombody else whom you infect without even ever knowing it. Even multiple others.

Not to sound cruel, but, so what? People have asymptomatically infected others with flu, RSV, rhinovirus, coronavirus, etc. for centuries - with some of them being hospitalized or dying from pneumonia. They've asymptomatically infected partners with STDs, as well, also leading to deaths. I'm sure some may have asymptomatically infected people with ebola.

Explain to me why this is any different whatsoever to any other virus in history, when covid-19 is acting like every other virus in history?

Rather than scrambling to have the whole world get a shot, the whole world should be using it on the elderly, health workers, and the immune-compromised and let everyone else live their lives without lockdowns, social distancing, or mask mandates and let them decide for themselves their level of risk. Eighty percent of those infected are asymptomatic or varying degrees of sick not requiring hospitalization - most don't even know they had it unless they get tested for antibodies. We need to stop acting like this is airborne ebola - of the 20% that require hospitalization, you eliminate the elderly and immune-compromised and now you are dealing with maybe 5%. Given the much improved treatments based upon a year of experience, there would be no need to ration care or overwhelm hospitals and the availability and efficacy of HCQ, ivermectin, monoclonal antibodies means you can virtually eliminate deaths except for those who were so feeble they would have been killed by something else anyway.

How do you think the very first wave of "standard" rhinovirus or coronavirus went, when it first infected humans? This coronavirus will end up the same way - becoming a nuisance fall/winter illness.

[Skybird]

Oh Mann.

[Skybird]

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...ty-ncna1257743

[Skybird]

Trust is eroding: After Corona, Germany expects the next severe crisis

The left has always backed the state. Now we are experiencing in a cruel real-time experiment what is to be kept of the promises that one only has to let the state have its way, then security and prosperity would be ensured.

At the height of the financial crisis, author Charles Moore, known for his conservative views, published a comment in the Daily Telegraph that led to the question of whether the bourgeois camp was right about confidence in the market. "It took more than thirty years for me as a journalist to ask myself this question," he wrote, "but this week I feel that I have to ask it: is n't the left right in the end?"

It is time to re-examine beliefs again. Once again it is evident that the arguments that have just been rejected could be correct, only this time those of the liberals, who have always distrusted the state. If politics and government fail to protect citizens, then one should not have to consider opposing the transfer of ever more powers, one would ask today.

A decade of rampant state belief comes to a crashing end in the pandemic. In a cruel real-time experiment, we experience what is to be kept of the promises of the state representatives that one only has to let them go, then security and prosperity would be ensured.

In truth, it is exactly the opposite: the more the individual citizen is dependent on state protection, the greater the likelihood that he will not reach the end of the year alive. This is not a polemical escalation, it is the description of the situation.

Belief in the state is deeply anchored in the psyche of the nation

The mortality risk in relation to the dependency on state welfare can even be defined quite precisely. All you have to do is take the daily mortality tables from the old people's homes. Those who live in a care facility because they can no longer take care of themselves have an x ​​times higher risk of contracting corona than their sprightly peers who do not need any help.

In addition to the health crisis, there is now the crisis of confidence. The latter will still be with us when we have long regained control over our lives. You are certainly not guilty of exaggeration when you predict that this crisis will shake the country more permanently than the fight against the virus.

That it is the state on which one can best aim one's hopes, this belief is deeply anchored in the psyche of the nation. Even two world wars could not change that. From my point of view, it would have been obvious to learn from history to allow a little more state skepticism - after all, the problem of the Germans has never been too much individualism and stubbornness. But Germans cannot think like that.

It is extremely difficult for us to say goodbye to state belief. The majority still say that they think the political measures are right. The phenomenon is known from toxic relationships: even if the victim knows how unhealthy the relationship they are stuck in, it is difficult for them to break free. It is better to deny the situation or to convince itself that things will get better in time. When asked about his misfortune, it blames itself: it was too careless or too selfish.

Protecting life to suspend liberty rights

Isn't that what we're hearing? That we have allowed ourselves too much negligence? That we have disappointed the trust placed in us, which is why we now have to take tougher measures? This is also the case in the comments, in which the government's course is described as having no alternative. Couples therapy would be called “enablers”. What is meant are people who prolong the relationship drama through appeasement or excuses.

There are crises that one cannot arm oneself against. They can only be endured stoically. But the pandemic is not such a crisis, and politics has never appeared so humble. On the contrary. The government's promise was to do everything in its power to save lives. From this she draws the legitimacy to suspend fundamental freedoms to this day.

There is no need to repeat what has been neglected, starting with the armament of the health authorities, which are still unable to separate healthy people from infected people. But if politics does not keep its promises, why should the citizens continue to follow it?

Vaccination miracle follows vaccination disaster

The rulers draw the conclusion from their own inability that one really has to obey them now. Not a word of understanding or apology. Just hold out slogans and new instructions and unreasonable demands. It is precisely because the state has failed that the citizen should build on it. One only has to imagine for a moment that the responsibility for vaccine development would also have been in the Chancellery or in the Palais Berlaymont in Brussels . Does anyone seriously believe we would have ever got past the first test phase?

Before the federal press conference, the Chancellor stated that she could not understand the complaints about the slow start of vaccination. She phoned the founders of Biontech, Ugur Sahin and Özlem Türeci, to get an idea of ​​the state of research. The two would do great things, so any criticism is out of place. The fact that the Chancellor considers it necessary to hide behind the success of two entrepreneurs is even more devastating than any self-praise could have been. Nobody accused Ugur Sahin and Özlem Türeci that they weren't working hard enough. Everyone is happy about the German “vaccination miracle”. Most people would have only wished that the private vaccination miracle had not been followed by a state vaccination disaster. If Angela Merkel and Jens Spahn had acted as carefully as the Biontech founders, we would not be facing the third and fourth lockdown today.

Once you've gotten used to curtailing citizens' freedoms, you can't just give up. On Wednesday, the rulers extended the lockdown. The next step will be to limit the financial freedom of movement.

This crisis of confidence will also have its beneficiaries

After the federal election in autumn at the latest, people will be asked to pay for the mistakes they made in Berlin . The fact that the disposal of one's own income is also an essential right to freedom is a thought that has meanwhile been completely lost not only to representatives of the Left Party.

The collapse of the financial markets was preceded by a collapse of terms. Personal responsibility, entrepreneurial risk, the free play of supply and demand - everything that seemed to have made up the economic order turned out to be a farce when the banks were not punished for their colossal failure, but saved with taxpayers' money. We are now experiencing a revaluation of values ​​again. This time it is terms like democracy, fundamental rights, freedom that don't mean what they seem to mean.

The journalist Claudius Seidl recently recalled that the hedge fund people who saw the financial crisis coming and therefore bet against Wall Street were conservatives disaffected by the cynicism of the financial economy: men like Steve Eisman and Michael Burry, who voted for Ronald Reagan and had donated to the Republicans, and their views grew more socialist the deeper they delved into the financial world.

Eisman and Burry made millions betting Wall Street by being the first to see what was coming. The new crisis of confidence will also have its beneficiaries. We just don't know their names yet.

https://www.focus.de/politik/deutsch..._12974882.html

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

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Belief in the state is deeply anchored in the psyche of the nation

People have a disproportionate belief in the State when they lack belief in themselves.

Weak-minded people want to be ruled and cared for. Like children.

Real conservatives don't want Wall Street bad behavior and excesses to break capitalism.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Ministers have begun a "final push" to persuade over-70s to get vaccinated.

The government aims to offer the vaccine to 15m people by Monday.

Up to 30 ministers are taking part in the vaccination drive this weekend.

On Friday Wales became the first UK nation to reach its vaccination target.

Covid could be a flu-like illness we have to live with, says the Health Secretary.

The number of UK people who have received their first vaccine dose has now passed 14 million.

Latest figures indicate 116,287 people have died of the virus in the UK

Heathrow airport has expressed concern over the implementation of hotel quarantine plans.

Trials will begin this month to examine the effectiveness of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine on children.

Treatments for Covid-19 will be fast-tracked through the UK's clinical trial system.

Canada's PM Justin Trudeau is under pressure to boost vaccinations.

[August]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

People have a disproportionate belief in the State when they lack belief in themselves.

Weak-minded people want to be ruled and cared for. Like children.

Real conservatives don't want Wall Street bad behavior and excesses to break capitalism.

This, so much this ^

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

People have a disproportionate belief in the State when they lack belief in themselves.

Weak-minded people want to be ruled and cared for. Like children.

Real conservatives don't want Wall Street bad behavior and excesses to break capitalism.

Three statements, three winners. I full-heartly agree.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Assuming the test result is correct. 20 ng/mil is dangerously low indeed. Below 20 is said to command immediate action, whereas 20-30 ng/ml is desecirbed as seriously deficient. Orthodox medicine wants levels to be between 40 and 60, I see nothign wrong having them at 70-90. Caution I would recomemnd fi you approach the 100 barrier, plus there are indices that the body cannot makje use of such hugh levels anyway. Alsom , the body is not prepared to process more than 20.000 IE per day. He simply refuses to do that. Thats why I think flooding of short time but hugher dosis, lets say 50.000 for one week, has less benefit than doing 20.000 for 2 weeks.

I am not surprised by his lower than expected levels. He has taken it since spring last year, I remember the videu when he held up a package of Vitamine-D for the first time. Initially I think he started with 1000 IEs, then 2000 some months later, and then 2500 and 3000. He never mentioned to have done a flooding phase, as I call it.

Here is the rub: Vitamine-D, may it come from sunlight and ksin production or by throwing in a pill, runs thorugh a complex chain of chemical prcesses and does am lot of travelling ij the body, inclduignmliver and kidneys, to get chnaged and processed again and again. Its a fat-solvent pro-hormone in fact, does not concentrate in the blood from all beginning on of your vimaine intake, but gets stored in the body's fat-depot's cells first, until they are saturated. The ammount you need, is an individual dosis, therefore, it depends on your weight, and on the ratio between your individual fat mass and body mass. Filling the fat depots up first can take months and months! The lower a dosis you take, the longer it takes. That is time in which you take vitamine-D pills and think you already benefit from it - but you don't yet!

Thats why I recommend, and many experts for Vitamine-D do recommend that as well, to have that flooding phase. In hospitals and with a patient in emergency they even may work with one-time doses of 100.000 IE for that reason, and even 200.000 and 300.000 IE.

Thats why I started with 20.000 IE a day, for around two weeks, and then halved that to 10.000 IE a day for another two weeks, and then halved it again to the planned maintenance dose of 5.000 IE per day. Actually, due to new information input from new literature I gained on Vitamine-D, I meanwhile have re-raised that level again, my daily maitenance dose since months now is 10.000 IE.

Its surprising, and shocking a bit, that even doctors open for these things like Campbell no doubt is, do not know these things!

As a reminder, but I think one cannot tell it often enough: a well-founded, amongst experts widely agreed dosis estimation from where on you may get yourself into troubles due to reaching "toxic" levels, is 40.000 IE a day, the risk there is that after doing that for some months without further support (Vit-K2 and Magnesium), you form out a hypercalcemia, which is not wanted. I am pretty confident by now to say that if you do not get close to this daily limit and over severla months, you are very, very unlikely to get troubles with your calcium levels. Even if you do not take K2. But we know no toxic level for K2 anyway, so why not being safe and instead being sorry. Why not accepting K2 then. It does no harm whatever.

The risk for a one-dose toxiticy of D3 is somewhere in the range of 100.000 to 150.000 IE in one day. You can expect things like diziness, headaches, migraine, psychotic episodes, hallucinations, sensoric misperceptions, over some hours. After the Vit-D is no longer taken, the symptoms will end after some hours, and thats it, chapter closed. Go home, live your life again, be happy.

So, do not allow others to scare you with horror stories about how risky and dangerous it is to take supplements like this, and that it is a bad idea because it is "artifical" and is not not eating a plant or fruit or vegetable. Thats all unedcuated bolocks, flavonides and food-related co-factors in case of Vit-D are not that much relevant anyway. You need a solid Magnesium level to "activate" Vitamine D, and you need, to be sure and safe in any case, Vitamine K2 to activate two proteins that will collect any Calcium in the blood stream and put it where it belongs: into the bones and teeth. But for D3 levels below 20-40 thousand IE per day, K2 may not even be relevant, because the risk for hypercalcemia in these doses is practically still not existent, and becomes only beyond that a concern. I am confident to say that you are safe if not exceeding 20.000 And I think that is a conservative estimation. Mind you: I take 10.000 every day, and do not think about it anymore.

There are supplements that you should and must know some things about, and where you must watch out limits because a toxic overall amount in your body can be reached relatively fast. Zinc must be taken care of, other examples are selenium, iron, and iodine (if taking it in high doses of high two-digit milligrams) should be well supported with Zinc, B2, B3, Q10, Vit-C, Vit-D, Omega-3, ancient salt, not so much because a feared toxicity of iodine (iodine itself isn't toxic, full stop!), but because of dealing with possible raised demands in ATP production by your mitochondrias and because of possible detoxification effects when the much iodine you take "loosens up" all that chloride, flouride and bromide that have docked to the receptors that originally were meant by nature to allow the docking of iodine.

Its good that Campbell posted that video. Learn from it! All these nutrition suppements, are no drugs, are no artificial chemistry. They are FOOD. They are what should be part of your food, but isn'T anymore. When you fill your pillbox for the week with vitamines and minerals and trace elements, think of it as preparing food for lunch and dinner. The problem with pills like these is not that they are pills, as long as the chemical geometry of the molucules is identical to that of the same substance contained in "natural" food. The problem only is if you think because you swallowed pills you can stop eating normal food, because all the many thousand of other additional materials and ingredients and nutrients, secondary things, flavonides, fibres then go amiss, and they are like stage workers in a theatre, where as minerals and vitamines are stars on stage. The audience does not come because of the backstage crew, but because of the performing stars. But the stars cannot shine without a good backstage crew. So eat normally - AND supplement! I take 3x 1000mg Vitamine-C over the day - and still i also have every day a glass of fresh lemon juice: but the latter certainly not for the small amount of Vitamine-C in it...

And do not trust the WHO, CDC, RKI, DGE, all these institutions with close ties to the food and pharmaceutical industry. They all represent very political and very money-heavy interests, and none of these interests are to your benefit. They are power- and profit interests. Read, get books, educate yourself - and then do your own thing. Just get your homework done well! Listen what a doctor has to say, always listen - but do not trust it blindly, he can only tell you what he has learned himself, and the university courses in medicine are heavily porked by the established paradigms. Western medicine has a lot of good things to show up with regarding surgery techniques and emergency intervention, but it knows surprisingly little about actually healing instead of just doctoring on symptoms, and about prevention. And the pharmaceuticla idnistry cnanot have a real interest in healing at all: because who would buy their expensive drugs if all people were not ill but healthy...? A doctor not havign learned about that after university, cannot know it, because his university studiyng will not have taught it to him. You cannot even be angry at him for that. But you can tlel him that he is off track with something. Precondition is that you have made your homework before doing that. And so: get books to read, get yourself educated on things. Never has it been easier than in our present times to get informed (or misinformed). Do not blindly depend on others, and experts: experts may be experts indeed - or sometimes not!


Quote of the day!!

16:00 I want to promote my health as optimal as I possibly can, not just eliminate deficiency desease.

Unfortunately, many official recommendations for "optimal" doses of nutritions do exactly that: they take the minimum doses needed to to reliably prevent deficiency deseases, and claim these to be the optimum,

slightly overstepping these has already the dangerous risks of toxicity, organ failure, and gates of all hells opening wide. 70-100mg for Vitmaine C (prevents scabies). 150mcgr iodine (prevents struma). 800-1400 IE Vitmaine D (prevents mental retardation in child developement). The absolute minimums are sold to the poublic as the diela optimizusms that should, under no circumstances, be overstepped. Thats why I see: do not trust DGE, RKI (Germany), WHO, CDC, national food associations and government recomemndations. DO NOT TRUST THEM. Its lobbying for pharmaceutical industry interests.

Add to this many criminal recommendations by these "authorities". That you should consume flourid and accept bromide supplemented in your food (both are cellular toxines). That you should have 6-12% of your daily calories eaten in form of "healthy" seed oils with plenty of inflammatory Omega-6 (the ratio in the West between inflammatory O-6 and non-imflammatory O-3 ranges from 15:1 to 30:1, even 50:1 in regions). That you need calories for life (you don't, what is essential is fats, ask keton diat followers). That corn syrup does no harm (its practically toxic). That there is a risk differrence between fructose and glucose (there isn't) . That you should eliminate your salt consummation as much as you can (only few health reocmmendaitons have caused so much illness and death in the world, like this capital crime of an advise). That vegan eating is natural and healthy (its hopelessly deficitary and more an idoleogical obsession that a "natural" thing). That full corn is good (a paleontological and metabological discussion would be needed here to go into that, but I have fully reversed from my former belief in full corn diat, and already many years ago). That fats from animals are bad (they are the ones our bodies can deal with better than with any other). That iodine is toxic (it is not). That HDL and LDL are different in their goodness and evilnedss (its the size of the LDL particles that make a difference, the small LDL particles are dangerous, the big ones are almost not). That now it was flound that Omega-3 is just not good, as previously assumed (they underdosed O-3 in those studies and left the monumental levels of O-6 untackled - what did they expect then...? Very serious methodological flaws, the counfounding variables were not controlled!!) That - I stop here. The list of uncrupolous dumbness goes on and on and on.

Its physical assault, else I would laugh.

[Skybird]

Ah, correction, my fault, I apologize to Dr. Campbell - he knows it. The fat depot thing, he mentions it at around 25:00. I paused the video at 20:00 and started my posting, then, after finishing it, saw the rest, and heard him now mentioning it.



My fault, all is good. I just wondered why he did not acted accordingly and flooded himself? Must be this omnipresent fear of "over-dosing". I disagree with his recmemndaitons on doses, they are over-cautious, imo. Or he focusses only on obesity/adipositas (he himself oviously is not), and ignored that the same principle applies to EVERY fatty tissue, even just healthy ammounts of it. The fat reserves must be flooded first before you benefit form Vit-D - no matter how much fat there is in the body. The more fta there is, the longer it takes with same doses used.

[ET2SN]

We, all of us, are still up to our ### in alligators thanks to this global pandemic. Let's hold off on making it into another "left vs right" issue, at least until everyone gets vaccinated and we're sure the species is going to survive.

Until then, don't be a D Bag, wear your mask in public. It isn't about you, its about not killing your neighbors. Practice at least some healthy behaviors so it doesn't look like you're being a D Bag.

Then, once its all over, we can ague about all the trivial stuff until the cows come home.

[Jimbuna]

Boris Johnson has said he is "optimistic" he will be able to set out plans later this month for a "cautious" easing of England's lockdown.

The prime minister said "huge progress" had been made with the rollout of vaccines, with ministers hopeful that schools can reopen from 8 March.

After this, the government would look to open non-essential shops and then later the hospitality sector, he said.

It comes as scientists warned against easing lockdown measures too quickly.

Mr Johnson will set out his "road map" out of lockdown on 22 February.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56054637

I just hope he doesn't let his mouth write cheques his backside cannot cash because the public are getting a bit sick now.

[Jimbuna]