[REL]The Wolves of Steel - SH5 Megamod - Page 177

vdr1981 · 09-18-15, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoYo

After the first completed patrol I bought new skin for my U-boot (1500 p.) but I don't see it.

Its a feature of mod or bug of the game... (yes, I use F2 key for external view).

Ragards : ).

Confirmed...This is probably one of the EUF bugs again but I still don't know how to fix it...
For Type VIIA , only Tiger stripes and yellow stripe coatings are working fine...

Edit:
I think I'll just remove problematic paint schemes in the next patch until I find solution for the problem, if possible at all...

Lanzfeld · 09-18-15, 12:22 PM

Hey Vecko,

Quick question/theory...

I see that you have periscope depth set at 12 instead of historical 13.5 meters. I know that we can adjust ourselves but then I thought about something. Do you have it set this way because the game uses periscope extension length to determine detection chance REGARDLESS of the actual length of the scope that shows above the water? It would be too many calculations to determine the actual length of scope above water with the waves and all so the game just uses whatever the scope extension length is to determine detection chance? So if we are deep and only have just the scope,tip,above water we have a high detection chance because we are fully extended?

Is this how it works?

vdr1981 · 09-18-15, 01:39 PM

I see that you have periscope depth set at 12 instead of historical 13.5 meters. I know that we can adjust ourselves but then I thought about something.
Actually, periscope depth is set to 12 m because anything deeper and your OBS scope will not reach sea surface. I don't know is this realistic or not but because of the changes from some mods, extension length of obs scope is such as it is...
Snorkel depth command however matches historical periscope depth (13-14m) and usually I use this command for normal engagement with attack scope. Attack scope also has slightly longer extension length (again, I'm not sure how realistic is this but that's the way it is).

Do you have it set this way because the game uses periscope extension length to determine detection chance REGARDLESS of the actual length of the scope that shows above the water? It would be too many calculations to determine the actual length of scope above water with the waves and all so the game just uses whatever the scope extension length is to determine detection chance? So if we are deep and only have just the scope,tip,above water we have a high detection chance because we are fully extended?
I'm not 100% sure but I think that AI visual sensor distance really depends of how much your scope sticks out of the water, regardless of your depth and periscope extension... If you enable map contacts together with appropriate options for TAI/NAV map using OFEV app, you can test this in single missions...

THEBERBSTER · 09-18-15, 05:57 PM

Hi Vecko
This is the first opportunity I have had to end my patrol and upgrade from patch 3 to patch 8.

There is a fault in Patch 8
The fault is in the Real Navigation Mod.
Patch 8 with my old Real Navigation Mod works ok.

The JSGME picture has the basic mods enabled with the new Real Navigation Mod from patch 8.

This picture shows the problem in the bunker with Real Navigation not working as it should.
Map contacts are enabled in my games.

Peter

vdr1981 · 09-18-15, 06:47 PM

There is no "old" and "new" The Wolves of Steel 1.04 - Real Navigation_by TheDarkWraith mod.
You should have only 1 in your JSGME, but I can see 2 on your picture?

You have overtweaked something...

My bet is that one two RN modes of yours has only menu.txt in it, probably the one which is activated...

By the way, have you received VIIB sub yet?

mikaelanderlund · 09-19-15, 04:26 AM

Peter, you have to roll back Real Navigation Mod before activating the new patch 8. Otherwise, you get two Real Navigation Mod. Enabling Real Navigation AFTER enabling patch 8

Mikael

THEBERBSTER · 09-19-15, 04:46 AM

Hi Vecko,
Yes, there is 2.
The 1 that came in the v1.04 download if you remember you spelt Wraith incorrectly as Wright.

Patch 8 has a mods folder in it with another version of Real Navigation with Wraith spelt correctly.

When patch 8 is in enabled another Real Navigation appears in JSGME un-enabled as you can see in picture 2 in my original post showing 2 versions.
Having 2 can appear because they are not spelt the same.
The Wolves of Steel 1.04 - Real Navigation_by TheDarkWright
The Wolves of Steel 1.04 - Real Navigation_by TheDarkWraith

If you enable patch 8 with the Wraith you get the problem in picture 2
If you enable patch 8 with the Wright you get the correct Real Navigation.

All I have done is remove patch 3 and replace it with patch 8 with the later/new version of Real Navigation > Wraith

Peter

vdr1981 · 09-19-15, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi Vecko,
Yes, there is 2.
The 1 that came in the v1.04 download if you remember you spelt Wraith incorrectly as Wright.

Yes , I remember...I also replaced the archive as as typo is detected but I guess you were faster...

So, do you know how how to solve your problem completely or do you need some help?

Still in type VIIA?

THEBERBSTER · 09-19-15, 07:16 AM

Hi Vecko

My apologies for not answering your question about the upgrade.
I got caught up in my problem.

Upgraded to a VIIB about 20 manual saves ago during N.W.A.
Had a large tonnage total may have triggered it.

No I do not know how to get over the current problem other than to use patch 8 with the original Real Navigation mod that came with the v1.04 download.
Whether this is a practical solution or not I do not know as I do not know what changes were made in the later Real Navigation mod.
I notice that Real Navigation were also added to both patch 4 and patch 7.
I have not used either of these as I am jumping from patch 3 to patch 8.
Always open to some help any time.

Peter

vdr1981 · 09-19-15, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

No I do not know how to get over the current problem other than to use patch 8 with the original Real Navigation mod that came with the v1.04 download.
Whether this is a practical solution or not I do not know as I do not know what changes were made in the later Real Navigation mod.
I notice that Real Navigation were also added to both patch 4 and patch 7.
I have not used either of these as I am jumping from patch 3 to patch 8.
Always open to some help any time.
Peter

OK, here's what's you gonna do...

1. Deactivate all mods except TWoS 1.04 (main mod)
2. Delete both Real Nav mods from your JSGME (Wright and Wraith

)
3. Then, Download this correct Real Nav mod and add it to your JSGME.
4. Then, activate mods in appropriate order (you know the order)

Don't worry , you can do this in the middle of the patrol...

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi Vecko

My apologies for not answering your question about the upgrade.
I got caught up in my problem.

Upgraded to a VIIB about 20 manual saves ago during N.W.A.
Had a large tonnage total may have triggered it.

Excellent, can you please upload (or copy/paste) your last Campaign.cfg and CareerTrack.upc from your last gamesave?

THEBERBSTER · 09-19-15, 02:49 PM

Hi Vecko

Thank you for the file.

Peter

09-19-15, 08:41 PM

i have unknow problem with MCCD 1.04 . Game crash with it how to remove it to megamod

YoYo · 09-20-15, 03:48 AM

Hi,
just question about campaign from WofS. Im in the second patrol and recived orders with the new area for patrol. What I can do if I haven't now any torpedos? Deck gun is still present but sometimes it is not enough.

Is it possible to back to Kiel (for example) and repair systems and take a fuel, torpedos and back to new area patrol too (btw I dont see resuply request radio message or button too - for milk cow, is it will be later)?

THEBERBSTER · 09-20-15, 05:04 AM

Hi YoYo

First check that your base is still in Kiel and has not moved to Wilhelmshaven.
If it is still Kiel then you can refit at Heligoland.
If it is has moved to Wilhelmshaven then you can end the patrol there and request the same mission that you are currently on again.

There is a supply ship available for a few weeks South West of mainland GB.
Useful if you are doing patrols N.W.A. or S.W.A.
You will get a radio message and see it on the map.
There is another supply ship in Cadiz, Spain from February 1940.

Peter

YoYo · 09-20-15, 07:25 AM

Thank You,

You have right, for sure Wilhelmshaven. When I'll back the mission will be available from the last status of patrol (some of patrol area was finished) or from the beginning again.

09-18-15, 01:39 PM	#2643
vdr1981 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2010 Location: Србија Posts: 6,078 Downloads: 581 Uploads: 13	I see that you have periscope depth set at 12 instead of historical 13.5 meters. I know that we can adjust ourselves but then I thought about something. Actually, periscope depth is set to 12 m because anything deeper and your OBS scope will not reach sea surface. I don't know is this realistic or not but because of the changes from some mods, extension length of obs scope is such as it is... Snorkel depth command however matches historical periscope depth (13-14m) and usually I use this command for normal engagement with attack scope. Attack scope also has slightly longer extension length (again, I'm not sure how realistic is this but that's the way it is). Do you have it set this way because the game uses periscope extension length to determine detection chance REGARDLESS of the actual length of the scope that shows above the water? It would be too many calculations to determine the actual length of scope above water with the waves and all so the game just uses whatever the scope extension length is to determine detection chance? So if we are deep and only have just the scope,tip,above water we have a high detection chance because we are fully extended? I'm not 100% sure but I think that AI visual sensor distance really depends of how much your scope sticks out of the water, regardless of your depth and periscope extension... If you enable map contacts together with appropriate options for TAI/NAV map using OFEV app, you can test this in single missions... __________________ Best regards... Vecko The Wolves of Steel v2.2.25_SH5 Expansion Pack_Full The Wolves of Steel v2.2.xx to v2.2.25 - Update PDF Install Instructions How to report an issue If You wish to support my work...

09-18-15, 05:57 PM	#2644
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi Vecko This is the first opportunity I have had to end my patrol and upgrade from patch 3 to patch 8. There is a fault in Patch 8 The fault is in the Real Navigation Mod. Patch 8 with my old Real Navigation Mod works ok. The JSGME picture has the basic mods enabled with the new Real Navigation Mod from patch 8. This picture shows the problem in the bunker with Real Navigation not working as it should. Map contacts are enabled in my games. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

09-18-15, 06:47 PM	#2645
vdr1981 Navy Seal Join Date: May 2010 Location: Србија Posts: 6,078 Downloads: 581 Uploads: 13	There is no "old" and "new" *The Wolves of Steel 1.04 - Real Navigation_by TheDarkWraith* mod. You should have only 1 in your JSGME, but I can see 2 on your picture? You have overtweaked something... My bet is that one two RN modes of yours has only menu.txt in it, probably the one which is activated... By the way, have you received VIIB sub yet? __________________ Best regards... Vecko The Wolves of Steel v2.2.25_SH5 Expansion Pack_Full The Wolves of Steel v2.2.xx to v2.2.25 - Update PDF Install Instructions How to report an issue If You wish to support my work... Last edited by vdr1981; 09-18-15 at 06:59 PM.

09-19-15, 04:46 AM	#2647
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi Vecko, Yes, there is 2. The 1 that came in the v1.04 download if you remember you spelt Wraith incorrectly as Wright. Patch 8 has a mods folder in it with another version of Real Navigation with Wraith spelt correctly. When patch 8 is in enabled another Real Navigation appears in JSGME un-enabled as you can see in picture 2 in my original post showing 2 versions. Having 2 can appear because they are not spelt the same. The Wolves of Steel 1.04 - Real Navigation_by TheDarkWright The Wolves of Steel 1.04 - Real Navigation_by TheDarkWraith If you enable patch 8 with the Wraith you get the problem in picture 2 If you enable patch 8 with the Wright you get the correct Real Navigation. All I have done is remove patch 3 and replace it with patch 8 with the later/new version of Real Navigation > Wraith Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

09-19-15, 07:16 AM	#2649
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi Vecko My apologies for not answering your question about the upgrade. I got caught up in my problem. Upgraded to a VIIB about 20 manual saves ago during N.W.A. Had a large tonnage total may have triggered it. No I do not know how to get over the current problem other than to use patch 8 with the original Real Navigation mod that came with the v1.04 download. Whether this is a practical solution or not I do not know as I do not know what changes were made in the later Real Navigation mod. I notice that Real Navigation were also added to both patch 4 and patch 7. I have not used either of these as I am jumping from patch 3 to patch 8. Always open to some help any time. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM Last edited by THEBERBSTER; 09-19-15 at 07:21 AM.

09-18-15, 12:22 PM	#2642
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Hey Vecko, Quick question/theory... I see that you have periscope depth set at 12 instead of historical 13.5 meters. I know that we can adjust ourselves but then I thought about something. Do you have it set this way because the game uses periscope extension length to determine detection chance REGARDLESS of the actual length of the scope that shows above the water? It would be too many calculations to determine the actual length of scope above water with the waves and all so the game just uses whatever the scope extension length is to determine detection chance? So if we are deep and only have just the scope,tip,above water we have a high detection chance because we are fully extended? Is this how it works?

09-19-15, 04:26 AM	#2646
mikaelanderlund Captain Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 529 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Peter, you have to roll back Real Navigation Mod before activating the new patch 8. Otherwise, you get two Real Navigation Mod. Enabling Real Navigation AFTER enabling patch 8 Mikael

09-19-15, 02:49 PM	#2651
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi Vecko Thank you for the file. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM Last edited by THEBERBSTER; 09-22-15 at 05:14 AM.

09-19-15, 08:41 PM	#2652
centurion1st Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	i have problem i have unknow problem with MCCD 1.04 . Game crash with it how to remove it to megamod

09-20-15, 03:48 AM	#2653
YoYo Ensign Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 228 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 2	Hi, just question about campaign from WofS. Im in the second patrol and recived orders with the new area for patrol. What I can do if I haven't now any torpedos? Deck gun is still present but sometimes it is not enough. Is it possible to back to Kiel (for example) and repair systems and take a fuel, torpedos and back to new area patrol too (btw I dont see resuply request radio message or button too - for milk cow, is it will be later)? __________________ Webmaster of yoyosims.pl SH fan, btw. my U-boot Typ VII C41 Click!

09-20-15, 05:04 AM	#2654
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Dibden Purlieu - Southampton Posts: 9,605 Downloads: 1123 Uploads: 0	Hi YoYo First check that your base is still in Kiel and has not moved to Wilhelmshaven. If it is still Kiel then you can refit at Heligoland. If it is has moved to Wilhelmshaven then you can end the patrol there and request the same mission that you are currently on again. There is a supply ship available for a few weeks South West of mainland GB. Useful if you are doing patrols N.W.A. or S.W.A. You will get a radio message and see it on the map. There is another supply ship in Cadiz, Spain from February 1940. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

09-20-15, 07:25 AM	#2655
YoYo Ensign Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 228 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 2	Thank You, You have right, for sure Wilhelmshaven. When I'll back the mission will be available from the last status of patrol (some of patrol area was finished) or from the beginning again. __________________ Webmaster of yoyosims.pl SH fan, btw. my U-boot Typ VII C41 Click!