US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 838

ET2SN · 01-09-21, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

It's for the deaf and it's called sign language.

Oh yeah? Then explain why he looks like he used to sing for R.E.M.

Cybermat47 · 01-09-21, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

Oh yeah? Then explain why he looks like he used to sing for R.E.M.

Because he wants to look like that, I would assume.

What’s wrong with deaf people knowing about what’s going on in their country at the same time as everyone else?

ET2SN · 01-09-21, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Because he wants to look like that, I would assume.

What’s wrong with deaf people knowing about what’s going on in their country at the same time as everyone else?

You're taking me out of context, I was asking why they brought in a Mime for the blind people.

Onkel Neal · 01-09-21, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

What about this guy? 2:50:00 it gets good.

Ahem...
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...25#post2719625

Buddahaid · 01-09-21, 12:22 AM

Yes, I was just remaking the point. It didn't matter anyway.

Trump has been permanently banned from Twitter now. I suppose he'll need to invest in a stump or start a newspaper to exercise his first amendment right.

Onkel Neal · 01-09-21, 12:25 AM

Graham was a stable Trump ally, when he says there is no evidence of the kind of fraud that Trump alleges, I am inclined to believe him.

Skybird · 01-09-21, 03:33 AM

https://translate.google.com/transla...e22279993.html

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"The storm on the Capitol was not the end point, but the beginning of an extremist movement that will also be violent," said the political scientist to ntv.de. "What we saw on Wednesday was not yet terrorism - but rarely has a terrorist movement announced itself so spectacularly."

vienna · 01-09-21, 04:27 AM

Ok... I've had it... I'm gonna start charging royalties...

12 Aug 2019 #7336:

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Originally Posted by vienna

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...but, then, I guess, when it looks like the SS Trumptanic is headed for that 2020 iceberg, taking the GOP down with it, desperation is bound to set in...

13 Aug 2019 #7339:

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Tell me you made that up!

13 Aug 2019 #7342:

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Originally Posted by vienna

Guilty as charged, all mine...

...me and Colbert are gonna have to have some words...

<O>

em2nought · 01-09-21, 05:06 AM

I wonder what would happen if every single Trump voter changed their party affiliation to democrat?

bstanko6 · 01-09-21, 05:28 AM

I find it funny Colbert had better ratings when he was pretending to be a conservative!

He’s barely hanging on nowadays.

u crank · 01-09-21, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Trump has been permanently banned from Twitter now.

And there you have it. Big tech is now more powerful than the President. The War On Terror will now become the war on political dissidents in the USA, meaning anyone who disagrees with the leftist/Democrat party ideology. Let's face it if the President isn't exempt from this kind of censorship, nobody is.

"Good night, and good luck."

Cybermat47 · 01-09-21, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

And there you have it. Big tech is now more powerful than the President. The War On Terror will now become the war on political dissidents in the USA, meaning anyone who disagrees with the leftist/Democrat party ideology. Let's face it if the President isn't exempt from this kind of censorship, nobody is.

"Good night, and good luck."

It’s not as if Trump’s or anyone else’s constitutional rights have been violated by Twitter. He still has freedom of speech, he’s simply been barred from private property (Twitter) by the owner of said private property.

Twitter is a service provided by a corporation, and in a capitalist society like the USA, they have the right to determine who uses their services.

The US government could, of course, exert greater control over corporations and forbid Twitter from banning members of the US government, but that level of government control over private businesses would bring the US closer to socialism, which is, ironically, not something Trump’s followers will support at all.

skidman · 01-09-21, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

And there you have it. Big tech is now more powerful than the President. The War On Terror will now become the war on political dissidents in the USA, meaning anyone who disagrees with the leftist/Democrat party ideology. Let's face it if the President isn't exempt from this kind of censorship, nobody is.

"Good night, and good luck."

Twitter terms of service:

https://twitter.com/en/tos

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We may suspend or terminate your account or cease providing you with all or part of the Services at any time for any or no reason, including, but not limited to, if we reasonably believe: (i) you have violated these Terms or the Twitter Rules and Policies or Periscope Community Guidelines, (ii) you create risk or possible legal exposure for us; (iii) your account should be removed due to unlawful conduct, (iv) your account should be removed due to prolonged inactivity; or (v) our provision of the Services to you is no longer commercially viable

Trump has approved these TOS. Are you saying the business activity of companies as independent market participants should be restricted in order to make sure criminal action can go on (Incitement to riot is illegal under U.S. federal law.)? Now that's an anti-economic, anti-libitarian commie approach. You surprise me.

u crank · 01-09-21, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

It’s not as if Trump’s or anyone else’s constitutional rights have been violated by Twitter. He still has freedom of speech, he’s simply been barred from private property (Twitter) by the owner of said private property.

Twitter is a service provided by a corporation, and in a capitalist society like the USA, they have the right to determine who uses their services.

The US government could, of course, exert greater control over corporations and forbid Twitter from banning members of the US government, but that level of government control over private businesses would bring the US closer to socialism, which is, ironically, not something Trump’s followers will support at all.

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Originally Posted by skidman

Trump has approved these TOS. Are you saying the business activity of companies as independent market participants should be restricted in order to make sure criminal action can go on (Incitement to riot is illegal under U.S. federal law.)? Now that's an anti-economic, anti-libitarian commie approach. You surprise me.

I am aware that Twitter is a private company with terms of service. I wasn't born yesterday. You both seem to have missed the point. This isn't the end but just the beginning. I certainly don't think that a company like Twitter needs you guys to defend them. Tech platforms like Google, Facebook and Twitter may be private entities but their influence and power doesn't need to be stated. Their political sympathies are not a secret. Their political power is enormous. Or do you think they are apolitical?

My point is simple. If Twitter can ban the President of the USA then they can ban you. There are very little alternatives to these platforms. If that doesn't make you sit up and notice then I can only assume that you agree with their political leanings.

I am a child of the 60's. I can clearly remember when the Liberal/Left railed against Big Brother and the administrative state. We have now come full circle and people, especially young people who are on the Left completely embrace the idea of censorship, Big Tech and a government that wishes to criminalize political dissent. We should be worried.

Do governments take advantage of events like the farce we saw on Jan. 6? 9/11 wasn't that long ago and the resulting War On Terror saw a massive overreach by US intellegence agencies on the lives of Americans. Twitter didn't exist then. One has to wonder that if it had the kind of power it does today would they have been complicit in the actions of Federal government. The government is kept in check by the Constitution. Because Twitter and Facebook are private entities they are completely unchecked. You guys ok with that?

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You surprise me.

I don't know where either of you guys fit on the political spectrum. But I am going to guess that it is to the left of center. I'd like to say that you surprise me but so far I can't.

Wolferz · 01-09-21, 09:56 AM

I hear Trump will be starting a new venture combining Twitter Youtube and Facebook.
To be called YOUTWITFACE

01-09-21, 12:22 AM	#12560
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,572 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Yes, I was just remaking the point. It didn't matter anyway. Trump has been permanently banned from Twitter now. I suppose he'll need to invest in a stump or start a newspaper to exercise his first amendment right. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I wonder what would happen if every single Trump voter changed their party affiliation to democrat? __________________ ISRAEL: Essentially "The Alamo" 24/7, 365 since 1947

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Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Twitter got it right I hear Trump will be starting a new venture combining Twitter Youtube and Facebook. To be called YOUTWITFACE __________________ Tomorrow never comes

01-09-21, 12:25 AM	#12561
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,293 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Graham was a stable Trump ally, when he says there is no evidence of the kind of fraud that Trump alleges, I am inclined to believe him.