US Politics Thread 2021-24

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Kennedy's "Dont ask what your country can do for you, better ask what you can do for your country" comes to mind. He might have been about military in the main, but I dont know.

OK, that one is new to me.

What Kennedy was saying was that ALL people should do things to help the rest. He was setting us up for ideas like the Peace Corps, a stronger United Nations, peaceful civilian exploration of space, being a volunteer for local causes, etc. In other words, if you wanted to serve your country there were other, equally valid, options besides joining the military.

We already had a strong military when he gave the speech.

[Shadowblade]

[Reece]

[vanjast]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Democrats own the media. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, MSN. Republicans have FOX. I'm not sure how they believe their attack dogs known as the media did not get their message out.

None of that is the case... The military have total control of all media worldwide. In each country that particular military are running the social/media/internet show.

I believe over the next few months.. we are to discover the extent of the deception... not everything they say, which I find disappointing as I would like to see the lemmings 'walk the plank'.

[Shadowblade]

so when it will begin?

[Jimbuna]

Trump's team hits first roadblock as they start to assume power

Donald Trump's presidential transition team has alreadyhit its first bump in the road after he won re-election Tuesday, reports the New York Times.

At issue is a failure to turn in paperwork –– now over a month overdue — that would clear the path to the turnover of sensitive documents which would allow the incoming administration to hit the ground running after the former president returns to the Oval Office.

That paperwork includes a "legally required ethics pledge stating that he will avoid conflicts of interest and other ethical concerns while in office" the absence of which has caused progress to come to halt.

According to the report from the Times' Ken Bensinger, the failure to address the impasse has the potential to put America's security at risk.

Reporting, "While the transition team’s leadership has privately drafted an ethics code and a conflict-of-interest statement governing its staff, those documents do not include language, required under the law, that explains how Mr. Trump himself will address conflicts of interest during his presidency," Bensinger added, "The Trump transition’s ethics documents are silent on the question of Mr. Trump’s ethical conduct."

As it stands now, the administration of President Joe Biden is legally prohibited from providing the former president's transition team with classified intelligence and national defense briefings,

The report adds that the missing paperwork also blocks Trump's people from the "physical access to the 438 different federal agencies that they will soon control, and it cannot allow them to review their files."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...75cdf5da&ei=13

[Ostfriese]

[Otto Harkaman]

Was the campaign to reduce natural gas use connected to the desire to export more liquefied natural gas LNG?

ChatGPT:
Yes, there is a connection between campaigns to reduce domestic natural gas use and the goal of exporting more liquefied natural gas (LNG), though it’s not always directly stated. Here’s how they’re linked:

1. Growing Demand for U.S. LNG Abroad: The global demand for LNG has been rising, especially in Europe and Asia, where countries are looking for stable, diversified energy sources. This has driven the U.S. to expand LNG export capacity to capitalize on international markets, where natural gas can sell for higher prices.
2. Environmental Policies: In the U.S., environmental policies aimed at reducing fossil fuel dependence have targeted domestic natural gas consumption, encouraging a shift toward renewables. By lowering the domestic reliance on natural gas, more can be available for export without impacting U.S. energy stability.
3. Strategic and Economic Gains: Exporting LNG enhances the U.S. position in global energy markets and boosts revenue for the industry, supporting both energy independence and economic growth. Additionally, reduced natural gas use domestically aligns with climate policies, creating dual benefits of environmental progress and increased exports.

In summary, campaigns to cut domestic natural gas usage indirectly support LNG exports, which align with both economic interests and shifting energy policies.

[mapuc]

I have a question from my elder sister, something she has been wondering about.

Who will take Trumps place if he should die before Jan. 20th -25 ?

I told her that it would be his Vice President Vance who will take the oath

She said - she didn't think so

This comment is written on my elders sisters computer.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I have a question from my elder sister, something she has been wondering about.

Who will take Trumps place if he should die before Jan. 20th -25 ?

I told her that it would be his Vice President Vance who will take the oath

She said - she didn't think so

This comment is written on my elders sisters computer.

Markus

US Constitution, 20th Amendment, Section 3: “If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died, the Vice President-elect shall become President.” However, a candidate is not technically elected until the Electoral College votes. The Electoral College casts their votes in December.

[mapuc]

What if he goes to heaven before the electoral have their meeting ?

Missed this part of your comment.

"a candidate is not technically elected until the Electoral College votes."

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

What if he goes to heaven before the electoral have their meeting ?

Missed this part of your comment.

"a candidate is not technically elected until the Electoral College votes."

Markus

The presidents are actually elected on Dec 10th the day the electors vote. US voting for presidential electors on Nov 6th It was set up this way to prevent states with high populations from always choosing the President. If president-elect dies between November 6 and Dec 10th this frees the electors to vote as most states make it a criminal offense for an elector not to vote for the candidate they are pledged to vote for. If president-elect dies after Dec 10th the Vice President-elect becomes president.

[Dargo]

Sooo you now get someone giving advice that believes a 4chan troll is real good luck US.

Elon Musk has used his large platform on X to promote a theory that a free-thinking “Republic” could only exist under the decision-making of “high status males” – and women or “low T men” would not be welcome in it.

On Sunday, Musk re-posted a screenshot of the theory – which appears to have been conceived on 4chan in 2021– on the social media site.

The theory, written by an anonymous user, suggests that the only people able to think freely are “high [testostrone] alpha males” and “aneurotypical people”, and that these “high status males” should run a “Republic” that is “only for those who are free to think.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2606617.html


You all realize this is created by minors in their basement on a troll forum these kids now realize what they created 10–15 years ago has gone horrible wrong. Theories on steroids and ADHD medication.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Trump's team hits first roadblock as they start to assume power

This is something I have wondered about for a while, now.

As someone who has had to deal with security clearances and their effects (trust me, they are a bigger pain than they are worth), just how do you grant a clearance to a convict?

To get access to Secret-and-above classified material, you have to survive a full investigation which means NO arrest record, NO convictions, NO on-going discipline issues, and NO reports that paint you as someone who should not have access to classified material.

This isn't a "solid proof above and beyond" kind of thing, If any part of your background investigation smells a little stinky, you DON'T get the clearance.

This isn't a "gotcha" question, its been an issue since Day Flipping One.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The aftermath of this election will turn ugly, little doubt on that. Especially Trump has prepared the ground in advance for his "they stole the election" narration in case he loses. On TV they said voting results could be contested at court in up to 19 states, in worst case.

Question is whether the rifles will stay in the locker. On TV they said over 60% of Republican party members hold gun licences, and 40% of Democrats, and the latter is just since recently, in a reaction to recent years. - Armed mobs were seen at voting points already the last time.

Possible there will be a new president in January. But certain it is not. It could be months, if things run really bad. And its not even especially unlikely.

No matter the results, I already now offer my condolences. This election will know no winner, only a big looser - the people.

Update, 70% of American citizens own their own guns. 10% are gangsters, they will never get the guns from them. And 20% is the Government, that has the big guns. And Joey AKA "Ice Cream" Biden " Did tell the American people if you want to take us on,you better have some f-16's and some nukes. And it is now a fact The American People have rejected the New world Order and their bull****.